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06-01-2007, 05:21 PM
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Rangers Myth #1: New York Oilers

I feel like putting an end to this myth started by Devils & Islanders fans as a way to somehow in their minds invalidate our Cup in '94.

The following players were with the Rangers when they won the Cup who were at one time Edmonton Oilers

Mark Messier
Craig MacTavish
Glen Anderson
Jeff Beukeboom
Kevin Lowe
Esa Tikkanen
Adam Graves

Now, out of these players, Adam Graves was only with Edmonton for two seasons, one of which happened to have been the season where Messier led Edmonton to the Cup. However, Adam Graves was in New York before Messier had arrived and wasn't apart of the actual Dynasty when Gretzky was around. Many of us remember Graves was #11 when he started here.

In addition, Craig MacTavish and Glen Anderson were acquired at the trade deadline and only played 12 regular season games and the playoffs for the '93-'94 Rangers team.

That leaves four players who were part of the Oilers Dynasty who were here for the whole '94 season; Mark Messier, Jeff Beukeboom, Kevin Lowe, and Esa Tikkanen.

When we look a little deeper, we can see how the playoffs of that season worked out.

1. Brian Leetch - 34 points
2. Mark Messier - 30 points
3. Alexei Kovalev - 21 points
4. Sergei Zubov - 19 points
5. Adam Graves - 17 points

Out of the top 5 point getters in the playoffs, 3 were drafted by the Rangers.

Also, the goalie? None other than Mike Richter, another player drafted by the Rangers.

So who didn't come from Edmonton?

1. Brian Leetch
2. Alexei Kovalev
3. Mike Richter
4. Sergei Zubov
5. Steve Larmer
6. Brian Noonan
7. Stephane Matteau
8. Sergei Nemchinov
9. Alexander Karpovtsev
10. Greg Gilbert
11. Joey Kocur
12. Doug Lidster
13. Nick Kipreos
14. Ed Olczyk
15. Jay Wells
16. Mike Hudson
17. Glenn Healy
18. Tony Amonte (later traded)
19. Mike Gartner (later traded)

New York Oilers indeed...

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06-01-2007, 05:36 PM
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Islander Fans are still Bitter because Messier spanked them in the 85 cup final & the Sticks never made it back & unless there is an Act of God will proably never make it to another SCF let alone win one, the Sticks will be lucky if they can compete for a 7th or 8th seed over the next 7 to 10 years.

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06-01-2007, 05:42 PM
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Islander Fans are still Bitter because Messier spanked them in the 85 cup final & the Sticks never made it back & unless there is an Act of God will proably never make it to another SCF let alone win one, the Sticks will be lucky if they can compete for a 7th or 8th seed over the next 7 to 10 years.
The Islanders and their fans (us) are worried about the Islanders, not Mark Messier and 20 years ago.

But thanks for the sentiments, glad to know you feel that way.

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The thing that I find more ridiculous than the Edmonton thing is how I used to hear that the Rangers "bought the Cup."

Because we all know the Rangers threw millions and millions of dollars at Messier, Leetch, Richter, Zubov, Kovalev, Graves and Larmer when they were free agents to outbid other teams and lure them to New York.

Oh wait...THEY DIDN'T.

I'm not denying the utter disaster that followed the Cup run in terms of overspending on free agent after free agent, but that isn't how the Cup team was built.

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06-01-2007, 10:56 PM
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Devils fans should totally be talking, they have won 2 1/2 cups

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Who cares what they think? We're talking about something which occurred 13 years ago. Just like our franchise has turned the corner in some respects away from the old guard, maybe our fans should do the same? Never forget 1994, never forget the faces, the save by Richter, Leetch's most dominating performance of his career, Messier's guarantee, and Alex Kovalev's treasure trolls.

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It'll never die, just like most of the people shouting "Potvin Sucks" have never even seen the incident (myself included). It's part of the fun of a rivalry.

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Devils fans should totally be talking, they have won 2 1/2 cups
Correction, 2 1/2 Cups since 1995. The rafters speak for themselves.

As for the New York "Oilers". I don't buy it. The vast majority of that team were Rangers to begin with. While it's fun to use it as a jab, to actually believe it is ridiculous. Richter and Leetch (Conn Smythe anyone?) were the two most instrumental players that year (with Mess) and both started out at MSG.

The players the Rangers traded for during the 1993-94 season totaled 14 goals during the play-offs. Good, yes, but not incredible. Of course had Ryan Smyth single handedly led the Isles back to the Cup Garth Snow would be the smartest man alive.

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Correction, 2 1/2 Cups since 1995. The rafters speak for themselves.

As for the New York "Oilers". I don't buy it. The vast majority of that team were Rangers to begin with. While it's fun to use it as a jab, to actually believe it is ridiculous. Richter and Leetch (Conn Smythe anyone?) were the two most instrumental players that year (with Mess) and both started out at MSG.

The players the Rangers traded for during the 1993-94 season totaled 14 goals during the play-offs. Good, yes, but not incredible. Of course had Ryan Smyth single handedly led the Isles back to the Cup Garth Snow would be the smartest man alive.
1995 (1/2) 2000, 2003. 2.5 cups.

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