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06-05-2007, 06:30 PM
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If Callahan scores 15 goals, it'll be a good year.
Thank you!

I was beginning to think I was the only one.

I'd be thrilled if he scored 25+ goals or 50+ points, but I'm by no means going to be disappointed if he does less.

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06-05-2007, 06:32 PM
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06-05-2007, 06:33 PM
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Sophmore jinx? Hope not...i'd be happy to see him with 40 points. Similar to Prucha in his 2nd year.

I like the way he played with Avery, so maybe toss Marty inbetween them. The mighty-mite line! Small, but fast, gritty, and productive.
still a freshman, so hopefully he can escape that problem..

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Most accurate IMO. I see him getting 30-35 pts

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06-05-2007, 07:27 PM
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Callahan's production...

will be dependent on how Renney uses him and with whom he plays. Tough to project now considering we do not know what the team will look like on September. Heck, he could end up on a fourth line playing with Betts, which would provide speed and a bit more skill (Renney's thinking), and again, this would be dependent on who, if anybody would be brought in. Re-signing Shanny and bringing in (or up) a Centerman pushes either he or Prucha down a notch (or perhaps even out), all else being equal.

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06-05-2007, 07:36 PM
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If Callahan scores 15 goals, it'll be a good year.
Indeed.

Expecting more than 40 pts. is lofty.

I expect 30 pts.
I would not be surprised with 40 pts.
I will be utterly amazed with 50+ pts.

I like the kid a whole lot, but let's not expect too much, ok?

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06-05-2007, 07:45 PM
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id say, high end:

40 goals, 30 assists 70 points

low end:

12 goals 17 assists 29 points

my personal expectation

28 goals 24 assists 52 points.
High End: 38 Goals 32 assist 70 pts 140 pim

low end: 14 goals 20 assist 34 pts 55 pim

realisitic expectation: 27 goals 25 assist 52 pts 101 pim

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06-05-2007, 07:50 PM
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Thank you!

I was beginning to think I was the only one.

I'd be thrilled if he scored 25+ goals or 50+ points, but I'm by no means going to be disappointed if he does less.
well, in my numbers, my "low end" numbers are what i would be satisfied with on a low end. my expectations are just guesswork, as most of this is, but i think he is opportunistic enough to be able to score 25 goals w/o a problem.

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06-05-2007, 08:14 PM
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well, in my numbers, my "low end" numbers are what i would be satisfied with on a low end. my expectations are just guesswork, as most of this is, but i think he is opportunistic enough to be able to score 25 goals w/o a problem.
Honestly, inferno, I'd be shocked if Callahan ever put up a 40 goal season, let alone in his first year. He's not that type of player.

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06-05-2007, 08:37 PM
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just because Callahan had a 50 goal year in the AHL dont mean anything. Brad Smyth also scored a few 50 goal seasons in the AHL, he did not do anything in the NHL. Dawes scored 50 as well, i doubt dawes and callahan will be 40 goal scorers in their first year, unless they get first line ice time with Jagr for everygame and pp time as well.

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06-05-2007, 08:48 PM
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Honestly, inferno, I'd be shocked if Callahan ever put up a 40 goal season, let alone in his first year. He's not that type of player.
im not so sure. while i agree, hes not what you would call a 40 goal scorer, per say, this unbelievable "opportunisity" (yes, im allowed to invent words) that I see makes me think that he can score a high of 40 goals. has nothing to do with his talent level, has more to do with his "right place, right time, ability to finish" level.

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My prediction of 22-28-50 was based on him getting 2nd and 3rd line minutes and watching how he played in the 14 regular season games he played this year.

If he plays like he did I don't see my numbers being all that unrealistic at all(pushing the envelope maybe, but not unrealistic). The difference IMO from him and Prucha is that Callahan was able to create more offensive chances then Prucha (well the Prucha from this year really). Callahan goes to the net hard, he also takes shots from everywhere and his shots are low and result in good rebounds. He will get more assists then Prucha easily.

I've started saying 2 years ago that Callahan was an identical player to Orts but the only difference was that Callahan had better offensive skills, at the time I didn't know how much better.

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06-05-2007, 08:52 PM
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just because Callahan had a 50 goal year in the AHL dont mean anything. Brad Smyth also scored a few 50 goal seasons in the AHL, he did not do anything in the NHL. Dawes scored 50 as well, i doubt dawes and callahan will be 40 goal scorers in their first year, unless they get first line ice time with Jagr for everygame and pp time as well.
He had 50 goals in the AHL? That's news to me.

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06-05-2007, 10:43 PM
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Even if Cally gets 2nd and 3rd line minutes, I don't expect him to break 40 points.

It will be *basically* his rookie season and I suspect we will lose Ortmeyer, in which case he will play a lot of PK time.

If he breaks 35 points, I will consider it a breakthrough season, honestly.

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06-06-2007, 12:02 AM
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A lot depends on what happens in this summer.

If the Rangers sign a healthy Forsberg and Ryan gets on his wing he could score 30 goals. Maybe more.


Plenty of threads about which Center to go after so I suppose we all know we need another playmaker to make stuff happen for the Callahans and Pruchas not playing on Jagrs opposite wing.

Can Ryan create his own offense? He sure hustles. But so does Prucha and he too really needs someone to set him up.

Who will be setting these guys up next year? Thats the real question

Who will be the 2nd line C has a lot to do with EVERYONES numbers next year

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25G's 23A's 190 PIM'S
190 PIM? Typo?

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06-06-2007, 01:33 AM
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Many of these expectations are way too high IMO.

I see him being a 3rd liner next year with Prucha and Cullen. If he played solid and put up 15 - 20 - 35, I'd be pretty happy. If Prucha and Cully do about the same as this year, that's a pretty solid line.

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06-06-2007, 02:03 AM
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A lot depends on what happens in this summer.

If the Rangers sign a healthy Forsberg and Ryan gets on his wing he could score 30 goals. Maybe more.


Plenty of threads about which Center to go after so I suppose we all know we need another playmaker to make stuff happen for the Callahans and Pruchas not playing on Jagrs opposite wing.

Can Ryan create his own offense? He sure hustles. But so does Prucha and he too really needs someone to set him up.

Who will be setting these guys up next year? Thats the real question

Who will be the 2nd line C has a lot to do with EVERYONES numbers next year

Callahan created alot of his offense due to his hustle and his speed, he has very good speed. Prucha needs a playmaker. Some players need a playmaker, some dont. Callahan is one of those who I dont think needs one. When Callahan got called up the first time, u still noticed him creating chances. Although he did not get alot of ice time, u still noticed him.

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06-06-2007, 02:38 AM
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15 goals--35 points-playing on the third line would be very good. I think it's realizable. The people who have him getting 70 points--I hope you're right but those are some lofty expectations.

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I see him getting 16 Goals, 15 assists for 31 points.

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I think a lot of people are overestimating Callahan's offensive potential based on his AHL numbers. I'd still peg him as a 2nd/3rd line tweener. Someone who can pot 15-20 goals from the 3rd line and move up to the 2nd line in a pinch. What makes him valuable is that he can do that and be one of our top PKers. But 30-40 goals? I'd be surprised if he hit that level consistently in his career.

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id say, high end:

40 goals, 30 assists 70 points

low end:

12 goals 17 assists 29 points

my personal expectation

28 goals 24 assists 52 points.
I will have to say. 25 goals and 32 assists.

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I really think there's a lot of people expecting way too much. In his first full season I think it's just unrealistic to expect more than 35 points. You can hope for 50 points, but I REALLY don't think you can expect it. A lot depends on the line he ends up spending most of his time on. I think most people agree that we'll see him on a line centered by Matt Cullen, who couldn't even be an offensively productive center with future HOFer Brendan Shanahan on his line. Who knows though, maybe they'll click, maybe they put up a billion points as a really aggressive charge-the-net sort of line. I certainly hope so. But I'm not expecting it.

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15 goals--35 points-playing on the third line would be very good. I think it's realizable. The people who have him getting 70 points--I hope you're right but those are some lofty expectations.
Ahh....a voice of reason.

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