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06-06-2007, 02:18 PM
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Heed the advice of the Islanders fans. Their wise words speaketh the truth.


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06-06-2007, 02:22 PM
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They prove they can win with no Pronger. All they need was Giguere.
One game does not reality make.
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His career started in "old NHL". That is where the label from.
Riiiight. He is just such the consumate physical player.
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You didn't watch much Isles games past season, did you? "Yashin is soft" is like "Poti sucks".
Have you tried to have the same conversation with Islander fans?
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Riddance of Yashin is a result of lack of cap space, nothing else.
As opposed to his stellar playl? Somewhere along the way, reality forgot to check in.
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We wouldn't make a playoffs without Ozolinch's help in November when Henke was no show.
I knew I was forgetting someone who was a reason for the playoffs. Now you have helped me remember. It was Ozolinsh.
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Remember, you didn't want Jagr either.
The shape of the team and the organization as a whole was a bit different around that time, don't you think?

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06-06-2007, 02:23 PM
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Yashin does not use his size advantage.
It is a matter of perception. Neither does JJ.

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06-06-2007, 02:28 PM
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Sather, whether as a result of the old Islander-Oiler rivalry of the 80's or his GM position with the NYR, is CONSTANTLY intrigued by ideas, signings, trades, hirings, etc. that could potentially humiliate the Islanders. I think he'll look at Yashin very closely.... Yashin racking up a 50 goal season for the Rangers while STILL residing on Wang's payroll and counting against the Isles' cap number may be too delicious to pass up... I bet you guys would have the "inside track" as Carol Alt probably wants Alexei to stay in the metro area...
If Sather signs Yashin he will make the Rangers look bad not the Islanders.

50 goals for Yashin? He never got that many on Ottawa when he actually was a very good player. Try 20 goals.

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06-06-2007, 02:29 PM
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It is a matter of perception. Neither does JJ.
Actually Jagr does use his. So did Mario. Yashin doesn't use his like he could or should.

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06-06-2007, 02:35 PM
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50 goals for Yashin? He never got that many on Ottawa when he actually was a very good player. Try 20 goals.
People forget... but he was on his way to a monster year before going down... 50 is a stretch... but I don't think 40 is out of the question if utilized properly...

Anyway, I'm an Isles fan.... we've been trained to believe that every transaction we make will ultimately blow up in our face...

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06-06-2007, 02:42 PM
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Actually Jagr does use his. So did Mario. Yashin doesn't use his like he could or should.
Well, he is no Lemieux by any stretch of imagination. He is a Russian and therefore may not fit into Czech dominated team. He is no show in playoffs. But he is only 33 and we need to get to playoffs before planning for the Cup run. 2C doesn't have to score 50 goals and scoring is not the major issue with our team. We needed all season and still do a reliable two-way forward to center our second line. Yashin could do it as good as anyone else out there.

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06-06-2007, 02:47 PM
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It is a matter of perception. Neither does JJ.
id call shenanigans on that. im not sure many players use their size advantage to their.....advantage as well as Jagr does.

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06-06-2007, 02:50 PM
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Well, he is no Lemieux by any stretch of imagination. He is a Russian and therefore may not fit into Czech dominated team. He is no show in playoffs. But he is only 33 and we need to get to playoffs before planning for the Cup run. 2C doesn't have to score 50 goals and scoring is not the major issue with our team. We needed all season and still do a reliable two-way forward to center our second line. Yashin could do it as good as anyone else out there.
Yashin is far from a 2 way center. He can score a bit and that is it. He doesn't make his linemates much better, he doesn't play defence.

Dean McAmmond makes $725K this season and is a UFA. He would be a better choice as a second line center than Yashin.

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Yashin is far from a 2 way center. He can score a bit and that is it. He doesn't make his linemates much better, he doesn't play defence.

Dean McAmmond makes $725K this season and is a UFA. He would be a better choice as a second line center than Yashin.
If you like 25-30 points a season from your 2nd line center..then yeah..

No thanks.

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06-06-2007, 03:09 PM
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Yashin is far from a 2 way center. He can score a bit and that is it. He doesn't make his linemates much better, he doesn't play defence.
Yashin plays back a lot. His +/- is neutral (+6). His is no Drury. Why he was a Captain is beyond me. All I know is that NYI would be nothing without him all those years when they were making playoffs and we weren't.

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Dean McAmmond makes $725K this season and is a UFA. He would be a better choice as a second line center than Yashin.
As I said there are other choices. I am not lobbing for his signing here. All I say he should be considered.

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Again- whether it happens or not, I don't know.

But a Yashin and Straka on the same line would be LETHAL. Those to go hand to hand IMO.

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06-06-2007, 03:12 PM
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Yashin plays back a lot. His +/- is neutral (+6). His is no Drury. Why he was a Captain is beyond me. All I know is that NYI would be nothing without him all those years when they were making playoffs and we weren't.


As I said there are other choices. I am not lobbing for his signing here. All I say he should be considered.
Considered and dismissed as an option.

I hate Atlanta - frigging dirty team. I really want Yashin to sign there. Have him center Kovalchuk.......

Atlanta is where I want him to go.

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06-06-2007, 03:20 PM
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If you like 25-30 points a season from your 2nd line center..then yeah..

No thanks.
in his career as an Islander (not his whole career mind you) he averages .838 points per game.

over the course of an 82 game season thats 69 points, hardly 25-30 points.

let me again say, i dont want him here at all, but lets not be crazy here and call him a totally worthless player. hes not, hes just ridiculously overpaid with a ridiculous contract. hardly his fault the isles were dumb enough to offer him that contract.

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06-06-2007, 03:21 PM
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I'd rather

have Comrie, take a flyer on D. Hamel and pick up Priessing for the price of Yashin.

Of note:
Hartford is loaded on defense.

-Don't need much: one center, one defensemen, one back up goalie.
-Resign Nylander and Shanahan(Jagr wants both); get Avery for at least 3-4 more years.
-Add Staal, Dawes and subtract 1 or 2 from the 4th line, have C. Orr as a black Ace and we are right there!
-The year after add Sauer, and year after that add Sanguinetti

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06-06-2007, 03:22 PM
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I guarantee you yashin as a Ranger will be Different then a Yashin as an Islander. Mark my words.

well is he still dating Carole Alt? it might be nice home coming for her.

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06-06-2007, 03:27 PM
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over the course of an 82 game season thats 69 points, hardly 25-30 points.

let me again say, i dont want him here at all, but lets not be crazy here and call him a totally worthless player. hes not, hes just ridiculously overpaid with a ridiculous contract. hardly his fault the isles were dumb enough to offer him that contract.
He referred to McAmmond's stats.
The rest is my point made well.

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in his career as an Islander (not his whole career mind you) he averages .838 points per game.

over the course of an 82 game season thats 69 points, hardly 25-30 points.

let me again say, i dont want him here at all, but lets not be crazy here and call him a totally worthless player. hes not, hes just ridiculously overpaid with a ridiculous contract. hardly his fault the isles were dumb enough to offer him that contract.


Look what I quoted please. I'm talking about McCammond, obviously.

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06-06-2007, 03:39 PM
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Look what I quoted please. I'm talking about McCammond, obviously.
my bad



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The ONLY way we sign Yashin is if we are so desperate to fill the 2nd line center postion OR if nylander jumps ship, Im pretty sure Sather isn't going after any Buffalo Centers, I think its the Trade route, But yashin could be a nice what if insurance policy, God forbid it ever gets that far. He would have to be CHEAP a one year deal worth 2 or 3 mill.
There is always the poosiblity we could sign Yashin to a resonable contract & than package him to another team in a trade.
I've learned to never say never when it comes to Sather, most of us were pretty sure he woul NEVER consider Lindros, low & behold Lindros was a Ranger.

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http://www.newyorkislanders.com/pres...ve.asp?id=1654

Would you guys take a shot at the enigmatic Yashin, who will undoubtedly come at a severe discount, to fill the 2nd line center role? Sounds like a very interesting option to me.
Uhhhh...no thanks.

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Comrie does not have motivation concerns.
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The ONLY way we sign Yashin is if we are so desperate to fill the 2nd line center postion OR if nylander jumps ship, Im pretty sure Sather isn't going after any Buffalo Centers, I think its the Trade route, But yashin could be a nice what if insurance policy, God forbid it ever gets that far. He would have to be CHEAP a one year deal worth 2 or 3 mill.
There is always the poosiblity we could sign Yashin to a resonable contract & than package him to another team in a trade.
I've learned to never say never when it comes to Sather, most of us were pretty sure he woul NEVER consider Lindros, low & behold Lindros was a Ranger.
id take lindros again before i consider yashin.

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Isles fan here. Yashin is hated by us solely because of his contract, despite what others are saying. If he had a 5 year deal making 4 million a year, I dont think any of us fans would have been calling for his head. Also, the team has been built around him. They got rid of peca, tried to accomodate him with players liek Satan etc... However, if Yash signed a 2 year deal worth 6 million, it wouldnt be a bad investment in my opinion. The only issue is that both he and straka dont shoot enough and look to pass first.

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Again- whether it happens or not, I don't know.

But a Yashin and Straka on the same line would be LETHAL. Those to go hand to hand IMO.
What's wrong with Straka on Nylander and Jagr's line?

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