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06-07-2007, 12:39 AM
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Will Fighting and Toughness now see a resurgence?

Now that the toughest team in the league, Anaheim Ducks have won the cup will this create some teams trying to pattern their style?

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i hope so.

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i also hope so...

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06-07-2007, 12:52 AM
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Agreed, I hope so too.

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I sure hope it doesn´t.

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I sure hope it doesn´t.

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**** yeah long overdue

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All pro sports leagues are copy-cat leagues so yes, it will become more valued, but not by a whole lot. Another team will win next year with another unique build. Also, remind me how many fights there were this post season.

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Personally I don't equate goonery, goalie crashing (so called toughness) with the sucess of the Ducks. I feel they won despite their toughness and not because of it. They won because of Neidemeir and their smaller skilled players. True they get a lot of room because of their team play.

Toughness in my opinion is not a knuckle dragging neadrathal swan diving on my goalie. To me toughness is a smaller guy standing up to that thug afterwards knowing he's gonna take a beating.

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06-07-2007, 02:17 AM
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All pro sports leagues are copy-cat leagues so yes, it will become more valued, but not by a whole lot. Another team will win next year with another unique build. Also, remind me how many fights there were this post season.

I'll remind you it wasnt the Ducks fault considering they tried to fight at least 6-7 times against unwilling players and they won the cup with 3 enforcers who all played at some point.

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06-07-2007, 02:19 AM
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Personally I don't equate goonery, goalie crashing (so called toughness) with the sucess of the Ducks. I feel they won despite their toughness and not because of it. They won because of Neidemeir and their smaller skilled players. True they get a lot of room because of their team play.

Toughness in my opinion is not a knuckle dragging neadrathal swan diving on my goalie. To me toughness is a smaller guy standing up to that thug afterwards knowing he's gonna take a beating.

Oh really? any Duck fan will tell you the team was at its best when they start throwing bodies around, fighting, and agitating.
They fed off the emotion of the tough guys.

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Seems like only weeks ago all the chatter was about Buffalo's mid-sized, speedy, extremely deep team and how THAT was going to be the model of success in the new NHL.

As a Kings fan, I've got little love for the Ducks organ-I-zation and their long-suffering fans, but I do like me some Brian Burke for bringing back some truculence and bellicosity to hockey!

The Ducks weren't goons. 95+% of hockey fans would like to have their own team play physical AND be able to back it up like the Ducks did.



Although that Corey Perry is a real dooche nozzle and would find his middleweight yappy self looking like bloody spinart on the ice if he played for about 27 other teams... Aw what the Hell, congratulations to his Cup-lifting butt too...

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06-07-2007, 04:53 AM
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I sure hope so. Physical hockey > all.

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Just to show you how fine the line is....if Franzen clears that puck in game 5 and Detroit ends up winning the series would someone still post this?

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getzlaf is a microcosm of the ducks as a team. lots of heart, highly skilled, and tough as nails--with a freakin badas$ attitude. he was yellin at everyone not to sit back today and i thought that was awesome.

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In the first round vs. Minnesota there were a ton of fights. The Ducks killed thewm in that brawl.

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I hope the Ducks teach the other teams that you can be tough and a winner at a same time.

So good to be a goon team!


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Personally I don't equate goonery, goalie crashing (so called toughness) with the sucess of the Ducks. I feel they won despite their toughness and not because of it. They won because of Neidemeir and their smaller skilled players. True they get a lot of room because of their team play.

Toughness in my opinion is not a knuckle dragging neadrathal swan diving on my goalie. To me toughness is a smaller guy standing up to that thug afterwards knowing he's gonna take a beating.
It's the Ducks fault Neil would rather have fought Scott Niedermayer than Thornton, May, or Moen?

Was a great series between to hard-hitting teams. The Ducks did a great job this whole season. Amazing how the winning teams always seem to 'run goalies.' Emery flopping backwards when Getzlaf runs into his flailing forearm doesn't equal a goalie being run...

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Now that the toughest team in the league, Anaheim Ducks have won the cup will this create some teams trying to pattern their style?
Have your moment in the limelight, Dirk316.

Team toughness is definitely a requirement to be a winning team, but we all know that you're talking more than just toughness, I don't need to specify.

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No, I prefer speedy, technical hockey with an emphasis on passing. I was not sarcastic.

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BRING ON THE TOUGHNESS! If all teams were built like the Ducks, we'd have a pretty exciting league. Not many players on that team playing the European style are there? Two Euros and even Pahlsson is a tough player. Thornton, Parros, Moen, OBrien most of the year, Pronger, Beuchemin, Perry, Getlaf, Kunitz... yeah, THATS a fun team.

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To me toughness is a smaller guy standing up to that thug afterwards knowing he's gonna take a beating.
Lol, well, I'd rather be the bigger guy creaming the smaller guy 10 times out of 10. Oh yeah, and by the 7th game of a series, that "smaller guy" will be a shell of what he was before being banged mercilessly all series.

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06-07-2007, 10:23 AM
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No, the Ducks didn't win because of toughness.

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No, the Ducks didn't win because of toughness.
You're right, it's all the conspiracy theory mumbo-jumbo.

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No, the Ducks didn't win because of toughness.
Jacques Lemaire doesn't agree with you, but hey, what does he know?

http://www.twincities.com/wild/ci_59...nclick_check=1

You might have to subscribe, but he says: "Looking at where the league is going, it's going to be a little more aggressive. We went the other way for a while. The hitting was there. Now, it's a little more than that. You see the scrums after the play. They're pushing, fighting more. Every team will try that. Especially now that they see Anaheim doing so well. Everyone is talking about them. Everyone will take that road."

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No, the Ducks didn't win because of toughness.
Hey, don't just leave it at that... As it is, it's an empty statement.

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