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Will Fighting and Toughness now see a resurgence?

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06-08-2007, 06:56 PM
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well the Ducks may not have had a lot of fights in the playoffs but they and the Sens did have guys who fought during the regular season. tough teams can intimidate and use that to there advantage which i think the Ducks did in the regular season. plus if you have fighters the rest of the team feels more free to hit and play physical hockey because they know the tough guys got there back!!
All that matters little in the playoffs because teams in the playoffs don't respond like they do in the regular season. In the regular season, the Red Wings would almost certainly have started something after Pronger nailed Holmstrom but not in the playoffs. It has little to do with intimidation and more to do with calculation. People don't want to be shorthanded all the time in the playoffs.

The things Pronger did, he didn't do because he had an enforcer backing him up, he did them because he thought it was worth the consequences or rather because he likely just doesn't think much at all. But I doubt either series would have gone differently if he hadn't done what he did to Holmstrom or McAmmond, it didn't matter in the end. What mattered was that Anaheim played a stifling, tough defensive game which brought Ottawa's offense all but to a halt and then they used their speed and skill to get enough offense to win the series but the key was that they had a tremendous top three on defense. Pronger nearly won a Cup for Edmonton last year almost on his own and him together with Niedermayer and Beauchemin is just going to be a tough nut to crack. Detroit got closest to beating Anaheim because they could play the defensive game on par with Anaheim and had the system to do it as well. Ottawa just wasn't used to that kind of hockey.

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Now that the toughest team in the league, Anaheim Ducks have won the cup will this create some teams trying to pattern their style?
Uhhh...I think having an All-Star goalie and the two best defenseman in the game today, also had something to do with it.

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Uhhh...I think having an All-Star goalie and the two best defenseman in the game today, also had something to do with it.
Just like im sure having fighters had nothing to do with them winning.

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Yes, I'm sure most other teams will try to pattern their style of having two all-star defensemen manning the blueline. Being tough means little without having a good team.
Another ignorant anti-fighting new NHL fan who knows nothing about the way the Ducks play the game.

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Because they're deluded into thinking they need a security blanket. Wing players and the coaching staff said the exact same thing about Brad Norton's presence early in the season: "keeps the flies off" "have more room" "feel more comfortable" etc... Except the games he played in were some of the worst with regards to liberties being taken. He'd lose a meaningless fight early in the game and then did absolutely nothing. After a couple weeks he ended up being replaced by one Jiri Hudler. Apart from the 4th line scoring a bit more, nothing changed.

Not all incidents can be prevented... Kinda odd that the ones that really should be prevented are the ones that aren't, huh?
You use an example of an entire team who is soft getting one of the worst fighters/enforcers in hockey who wasnt even allowed to do his job. Give me examples of some big time cheap shots with Norton in the lineup? Detroit needs 2-3 tough players at least.
You Detroit fans that remain since most true fans have stopped following the team when they turned soft are delusional.

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06-09-2007, 01:09 PM
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Physical hockey > all.
Yep. Huge hits are the best part of hockey.

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You betcha, bring it all back, non of the cat-footing duck punching,
the NHL needs more of this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...73796773147917

yeah yeah, thats it. PFAH on the skill and scoring, everyone wants
BLOOOOOOOD. Thats the only way the NHL will attract fans
in the USA.

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You use an example of an entire team who is soft getting one of the worst fighters/enforcers in hockey who wasnt even allowed to do his job. Give me examples of some big time cheap shots with Norton in the lineup? Detroit needs 2-3 tough players at least.
You Detroit fans that remain since most true fans have stopped following the team when they turned soft are delusional.
Another fine pearl of wisdom.... I believe when you used the phrase "true fans" you meant to use "fickle meatheads" but I understand how that mixup could be made.

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And you can always watch wrestling. If you don't already....

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Let's hope it does. There's a reason why this year's playoffs seemed rather lame. The goals may be what people remember, but it's the hitting and physical play that inspires the emotion that the playoffs bring; we didn't have enough of that this year.

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Another ignorant anti-fighting new NHL fan who knows nothing about the way the Ducks play the game.
I like your style. Cant argue the post so try to insult the poster. Funny stuff.

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Why are so many people indulging Dirk like this?

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You betcha, bring it all back, non of the cat-footing duck punching,
the NHL needs more of this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...73796773147917

yeah yeah, thats it. PFAH on the skill and scoring, everyone wants
BLOOOOOOOD. Thats the only way the NHL will attract fans
in the USA.
I have seen that one before. that dude in the white coat cracked me up. he looked like the town butcher lol

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