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06-12-2007, 05:55 PM
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Rumor? Dustin Penner signed to 3 year deal

Atleast according to this and Doug doesn't post bogus stuff..

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=7990

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06-12-2007, 06:14 PM
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wasn't there a closed thread with all that "inside info" and sources?

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06-12-2007, 06:18 PM
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"Parros, the most popular healthy scratch the league has seen in quite some time, signed a two-year contract. "


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wasn't Penner a RFA?

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wasn't Penner a RFA?
Yeppers!

If this rumor is true, than it is an excellent signing. Perfect amount with a perfect amount of years to complement it.

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06-12-2007, 09:34 PM
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Looks like my source was correct.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=382782

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Looks like the kid line and the checking line are back -- now get to work on the McDonald line !!!

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Looks like the kid line and the checking line are back -- now get to work on the McDonald line !!!
And the Giguere line.

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The way I understand it...he signed the deal but it needed approval from the NHL and NHLPA before it was confirmed.

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06-12-2007, 10:40 PM
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now get to work on the McDonald line !!!
Both Kunitz and Macdonald are signed. Only Teemu is unsigned and i don't think there's too much work to be done if he decides to come back. Teemu says a reasonable number and Burke says ok. Probably similar to this year but with a higher base salary and smaller bonuses.

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06-13-2007, 03:03 AM
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Penner is worth about $2.3M per year while Getz made $714k and Perry made $684k?

No arbitration, no argument, just take the suitcase of money from Burke?

Hmm ....

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06-13-2007, 05:29 AM
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Penner is worth about $2.3M per year while Getz made $714k and Perry made $684k?

No arbitration, no argument, just take the suitcase of money from Burke?

Hmm ....
It pretty much goes without saying that Getzlaf and Perry will receive healthy raises when their entry level deals expire.

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06-13-2007, 12:24 PM
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The PPG line could be worth $9-mil. after '07-'08.
The checking line will be worth $4.3-mil.
McDonald and Kunitz will be worth maybe $5.5-mil.
Marchant, $2.6-mil.
Pronger, Niedermayer, and Beauchemin will be worth $14.7-mil.
Jiggy? $5.5-million?

13 core players, $41.6-mil.

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06-13-2007, 12:43 PM
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The PPG line could be worth $9-mil. after '07-'08.
The checking line will be worth $4.3-mil.
McDonald and Kunitz will be worth maybe $5.5-mil.
Marchant, $2.6-mil.
Pronger, Niedermayer, and Beauchemin will be worth $14.7-mil.
Jiggy? $5.5-million?

13 core players, $41.6-mil.
That's reasonable, and not a problem. The rest of the team will propably be AHL-pluggers and prospects on entry-level contracts.

08-09 roster:

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Kunitz-Mcdonald-Ryan
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Enforcer-Marchant-Plugger

Nieds-Beauch
Prongs-Huskins
Mitera/Mikkelson-Plugger

Giguere.
Hiller

Thats something like 45 mil.

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06-13-2007, 01:12 PM
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i think 07-08 will be last year of Marchant's contract though.

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06-13-2007, 01:40 PM
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The checking line will be worth $4.3-mil.
It won't be popular, but you trade one of these guys. Basically take the Colorado route and identify which are the 'core' guys and trade the other to another team who covets a vet with a Cup on his resume. Buy low and sell high.

Its too bad Rob Niedermayer is complicated by Scott. He's the guy I'd trade without that string attached. Given that, I'd really look at moving Marchant instead.

And before you jump on me, I love having both guys on my team. But to maintain the team as a championship contender you have to make hard choices. Maybe not this summer, but certainly next.

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Nieds-Beauch
Prongs-Huskins
Mitera/Mikkelson-Plugger
In 08-09 Niedermayer won't be able to play 34 minutes a game. He looked bad doing it this year any time it happened a few games in a row. They need to start thinking about improving the #4 and #5 guy to account for the top two losing a step.

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Someone has to say it... Braincramp: 1, mods: 0

Sorry to the mod in question . I know that you were just doing your job, but the accuracy of the deal suggests that they did negotiate during the Playoffs. It may be board rules, but I don't feel that threads like that should be closed, at least not from respected posters.


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06-13-2007, 02:30 PM
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i think 07-08 will be last year of Marchant's contract though.
Signed thru '08-'09. Hard contract to move.

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It won't be popular, but you trade one of these guys. Basically take the Colorado route and identify which are the 'core' guys and trade the other to another team who covets a vet with a Cup on his resume. Buy low and sell high.

Its too bad Rob Niedermayer is complicated by Scott. He's the guy I'd trade without that string attached. Given that, I'd really look at moving Marchant instead.

And before you jump on me, I love having both guys on my team. But to maintain the team as a championship contender you have to make hard choices. Maybe not this summer, but certainly next.
Why move anybody? The cap is going up and profits are up. Those guys' contracts are set for the next two years, no reason to move any of them. Plus after next year a lot of things will change. If Teemu plays this year, he more than definitely won't play after that so his contract will be off the books. Kunie has one more year left and as much as I love Kunie, I can see Burke letting him walk.

That line is as important to this team as any other and maybe even more so. Considering how crucial they are, we've got them at a bargain.

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Why move anybody? The cap is going up and profits are up. Those guys' contracts are set for the next two years, no reason to move any of them.
Same reason O'Brien got traded, depth plus a high return equals good trade.

In trading Marchant you open the door for Carter or Brent or can sign a mid-level UFA to be the fourth line center. In trading Niedermayer, a guy like Drew Miller would get a shot.

Also, the cap doesn't necessarily equate to the budget.

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Plus after next year a lot of things will change. If Teemu plays this year, he more than definitely won't play after that so his contract will be off the books. Kunie has one more year left and as much as I love Kunie, I can see Burke letting him walk.
Selanne's money go to will pay Getzlaf and Perry in their next contract. Both are looking at 2-3 million.

Kunitz has a bargain contract, but if he does walk you still need a top 6 forward.

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That line is as important to this team as any other and maybe even more so. Considering how crucial they are, we've got them at a bargain.
Would the wheels fall of the bus if the line became Miller-Pahlsson-Moen. Not at all, the Ducks would keep rolling along.

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06-13-2007, 03:42 PM
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I don't think anybody thinks for a second they can keep this team together for more than 2-3 years. This team has so much talent it's going to get expensive very fast. At the same time, what is truly important? Winning the cup or making a good trade? You just don't downgrade your team when within the cup window, even if the return would be better down the line. When Scotty Nied's contract is up, reload the team around Pronger and Getzlaf. For now, pull out all the stops to win.

Edit. And you must be kidding me about Miller and Rob being interchangeable. Robbie was a monster all playoffs.

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Yeah i'm sorry but Drew Miller is nowhere near Rob Niedermayer, he always performs in the playoffs I can't see Burke breaking up the best checking line in hockey.

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I concur about Robbie being a monster in the playoffs, not to mention how solid he was the whole season. Drew Miller might turn out to be a regular NHLer, maybe. But Robbie is a bona fide checking forward. There's no pressure to alter that line right now. In fact, there's no pressure to altar that line until their contracts are up (which coincidentally is at the same time).

The only player that, if push comes to shove, needs to be moved would be Marchant and that won't even be until after next season. Marchy is awesome but his spot could be filled, albeit not nearly as well, with a cheaper, younger option. So say Getzy and Corey have big years and command huge raises than Todd will probably have to go. But this year we're solid, even if we retain Jiggy and Teemu. The only cap casualty for this coming season might be OD. Unless he takes at least 25% paycut he's probably gone. OD is great but he'll probably decline in performance each year here on out and he might try to seek a long-term deal somewhere else (ala Ruslan Salei).

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Just to clarify... the rumor about Penner is not true. I didn't read the whole thread closely so if someone already mentioned this then i'm sorry.

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