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12-27-2003, 03:56 AM
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What's up Habs fans? (OT)

First off, my apologies for making an attention-wh**ing thread. But who better to ask than Habs fans?

This summer I decided to move to Montreal, Quebec!

I feel like I need a change in my life. Edmonton has everything a world class city has to offer and is Canada's "festival city", but I know this place too well. When I visited Toronto last June, I was stunned. When you let yourself go and enjoy new places like that it really makes you want even more. When I arrived back in Edmonton I grew really dissatisfied with this place. Edmonton is awesome, but it's just too far out in the middle of nowhere. I'm going by greyhound, it's costs alot less than flying.

Okay, questions. I heard that Montreal offers the cheapest rent in Canada. I tried to googlize it but couldn't find squat, just car rentals. Is this true? Can a young blue collar man like me survive this city? I also speak some basic French, but not very well though. The fact that I heard Montreal has the cheapest rent in Canada is the biggest factor in my decision. Plus it sounds lovely.

Again sorry for bothering you, don't be angry with me please, but I'm just too excited and my family can't help me with any info about Montreal, so I posted here. I also don't know anyone who knows about Montreal.

Thank you, and have happy holidays wishes from Edmonton!

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First off, my apologies for making an attention-wh**ing thread. But who better to ask than Habs fans?

This summer I decided to move to Montreal, Quebec!

I feel like I need a change in my life. Edmonton has everything a world class city has to offer and is Canada's "festival city", but I know this place too well. When I visited Toronto last June, I was stunned. When you let yourself go and enjoy new places like that it really makes you want even more. When I arrived back in Edmonton I grew really dissatisfied with this place. Edmonton is awesome, but it's just too far out in the middle of nowhere. I'm going by greyhound, it's costs alot less than flying.

Okay, questions. I heard that Montreal offers the cheapest rent in Canada. I tried to googlize it but couldn't find squat, just car rentals. Is this true? Can a young blue collar man like me survive this city? I also speak some basic French, but not very well though. The fact that I heard Montreal has the cheapest rent in Canada is the biggest factor in my decision. Plus it sounds lovely.

Again sorry for bothering you, don't be angry with me please, but I'm just too excited and my family can't help me with any info about Montreal, so I posted here. I also don't know anyone who knows about Montreal.

Thank you, and have happy holidays wishes from Edmonton!
cant help you with your rent prob, but i go to montreal twice a year and jetsgo has crazy deals to get there last time i payed $145 and there a promotion now for $99 flights. phone jetsgo in edmonton.
btw check out STEREO incredible just incredible club, you gotta love Angel Moroe and MV.

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Okay, questions. I heard that Montreal offers the cheapest rent in Canada. I tried to googlize it but couldn't find squat, just car rentals. Is this true?
I've never rented a place in Montreal, but i don't think that's true at all. I had a friend that rented a place during our University days (he went to McGill, his place was walking distance to the campus) and he payed thru the nose for his rent. Of course he may have been in a high priced area...

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Yes, according to a recent survey, Montreal is on of the cheapest place in the country to live. But For someone working with a tight budget you have to stay away from downtown Montreal (where McGill university is and where I'm guessing your friend lived), as most of the rents there are threw the roof. Elsewhere in the city, you can find reasonable prices, altough the rents are climbing right now like never before. I have a couple of websites with appartements ads. I'm at work right now and can't access them, but I'll post them tonight.

BTW, don't worry about not speaking french. Although I think that you're really missing something out if you don't learn the language, you can still easily get around. People here are really really nice when they see english people trying to get understood with the little french they know. Plus the english community is well established in Montreal.

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I've never rented a place in Montreal, but i don't think that's true at all. I had a friend that rented a place during our University days (he went to McGill, his place was walking distance to the campus) and he payed thru the nose for his rent. Of course he may have been in a high priced area...
walking distance from campus? well of caurse its gonna be through the roof, university area is the highest rent area in every city.
and yes montreal has ONE OF the cheapest rents. but definaitly not in the university area.
i heard generaly that its cheaper then e town.

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walking distance from campus? well of caurse its gonna be through the roof, university area is the highest rent area in every city.
and yes montreal has ONE OF the cheapest rents. but definaitly not in the university area.
i heard generaly that its cheaper then e town.
i am not so far to Mgill University and paiy 650 $/ month for a 2 bedrooms +kitchen +living room .I know i am really paying lower than the common price but i saw twice appartements to rent at 800 $ 2 weeks ago ...and i am in the area call '' Mile-End '' just close to the montain ;it's a really nice place .....

the common price for a 2 bedroom is more around 1000-1200$ / mnth , but if you search , you could deal like 800-900$ in this area .If you go more on the north , it's a little bit cheaper...


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i am not so far to Mgill University and paiy 650 $/ month for a 2 bedrooms +kitchen +living room .I know i am really paying lower than the common price but i saw twice appartements to rent at 800 $ 2 weeks ago ...and i am in the area call '' Mile-End '' just close to the montain ;it's a really nice place .....

the common price for a 2 bedroom is more around 1000-1200$ / mnth , but if you search , you could deal like 800-900$ in this area .If you go more on the north , it's a little bit cheaper...
Welcome in Montreal Hemskyfan,

Here some advice if you want to enjoy your stay. Yes it's true that rent are far lower in Montreal then anywhere else in Canada. If you go outside of the "English Neighbours" it's even cheaper. Anyway you wont talk a lot with your immediate neighboor in a big city like Montreal. If you go on the east side of the city you can have a 3 bedroom+kitchen+Living Room + washroom for 500-600$. The Mcgill area is just hype because most of the International student that are residing there are already saving a lot of money by going to a Canadian university that paying 1000-1200$ for a room is not that bad for their parents (those who pay the bill). The Mile-End is a really nice place but is more costy then the other place because of the mountain.

As Markov said, if you go a little bit up north... (by the way with the subway you dont really need to live downtown) it's cheaper. I dont really know the ethnic situation in Edmonton (it's not racism just information) but if you dont want to mix with other cultures then avoid the north. Otherwise it's a pretty nice place because ethnics montrealer tend to create small community and they will often invite you to small party.. good if you dont know a lot of people here.

There is also "The Plateau"... was basically a artist place... now more and more a yuppy place. It's a good place to live if you prefer the bohemian style of life.. there is a lot of small shop where you can buy anything and a lot of small cafe and night club.

As for not speaking french this is the least of your problem. Learn 4-5 little words like, "Merci", S'ils-vous-plait", "Désoler", "Bonjour" and a simple smile and you will be received like a god since a lot of people in Montreal dont even know/use simple polite word like that.

Other then that.....have fun..

Personnaly I would recommand you to go outside of the big city, I live in a 40K pop. Bilingual city called Chateauguay, just 10 minutes Bus/Car from Montreal. Population is 50% english 50% french and it may be less disorienting then Montreal (also rent are even cheaper). But if you want the real Shebang then stay in Montreal, you wont even need a car there.

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Again sorry for bothering you, don't be angry with me please
Do we look that hostile? :p

Montreal's a great city with lots of activities and variety (cultural aspect). You'll enjoy its nightlife and rythm, especially during summer with all the festivals. Wow I'm starting to sound like a tourist agent.

Anyway, about the rents, you'll be able to find quite a few decent places at a very decent price all around the city, but if you feel like living downtown (like me), prepare to spend some extra $.

I suggest you look at this site in particular (link bellow). It's where I found my appartment when I moved to Montreal years ago and it has all the prices in CAD and lots of pictures of the buildings, interiors and various rooms (even some 360° photos) + all the technical info about the rent conditions (electricity included or not, walking distance from a subway station or not, etc.):

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Also, about the language, don't worry too much as the majority of the population in Montreal speaks english. It's especially true in the West area and downtown.

Best wishes to you too from Montreal!

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welcome to the 514 area bro. ok, whereas i will agree about the rent beeing the cheapest, i dont agree with the fact that not speaking french is not a problem, and here's why: it really depends on what kind of job ull be looking for. if u have a degree in engineering (say) then no sweat. but if u basically just have a high school degree or something like that, then it will definitely be harder. most jobs have a basic requirement, and that's to understand/speak french at about 50% capacity (also depending on the job). so do urself a favor, watch french tv and try to practice as much as possible, this will only benefit u.

i agree with everyone else from the point of view as to how great montreal is, but im having more and more difficulty dealing with something. and that's politics of Quebec. U see, even though im a francophone, im getting really sick of the PQ's antics and all the ******** this party is stirring up. plus, the rest of Canada doesnt like dealing with QC, and Ottawa is really sick of having to deal with them too (budget cuts, funds refusal etc) so im even contemplating the leaving of the province, especially if another referendum is gonna go down. i have no problem with the referendum, but not for the reasons these people are using for it. but one thing is for sure, this is a great city, with some very unfortunate dummies running it....oh, and stay clear of the evil palace of death aka, the casino...(man, im sounding terribly bitter...)

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I lived 10 years in the Plateau. Just before the prices of the rents raised crazy. I was very happy in the Plateau, wich is next from the Mile End. Artists, students, nice looking cool girls, now it's yuppies with tons of ca$h.

Don't know what to recommend. Maybe the very east side of the Plateau (close to the Journal de Montréal). There is also la Petite Patrie (St-Denis and Jean Talon), It looks like the Plateau, I lived there 2 years but it's a bit depressing, there is too much old persons living there, and not enough cafés “branchés” (translate: in or cool).

I think the Marché Atwater area would be interresting and kindda cheap. There is also the “Vieux Rosemont” (Mt-Royal and 4e Avenue) who is kindda cheap and looks like another “Plateau”. My warning: Don't live in LaSalle, Pointe aux Trembles, Ahuntsic, Montreal-Nord, Rivière des Prairies, St-Laurent, St-Léonard, Ville St-Pierre, Dorval, stay away from those suburbs where you'll be too far from the heartbeat of downtown Montreal. There is no life outside a certain area and you'll find yourself buying a car to get to the cool places (cafés, clubs, bistros) or you'll travel 16 subway stations to get there. Kindda depressing long rides in the subway (called “Metro”).

Personally I live in La Prairie, a small suburb on the south shore of Montreal. I can see clearly Montreal from my window, I see the St-Laurent river and Mont-St-Hilaire. I live in a nowhere land where I can see everyting. A compromise choice, I have to stay close from my 2 childrens I have to see every 3 days. They live in St-Lambert (with my ex-wife) wich is the best place to live on the south shore, also very close from the downtown Montreal.

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About the rents: IT's very cheap for a city like Montréal but place are very hard to find. Here, location start 1st july and stop 30 june. You have to start looking in February to find something good and cheap.

The Subway and bus network are very good so you don't really need a car. If you start looking soon you should find a very good place close of a subway station for cheap. IMO it's lot better than live in Downtown.

No problem with language, the vast majority of montrealers speak both English and French.

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shaolin_goon, the political question is not important at all in everyday's life in Montreal. We live our lifes, we have fun, we have all the festivals in summer and the politics are only something we read in the newspapers. It botters us after a while but I think all the modern society around the world is runned by dummies, it's not better in Ontario where the drastics budgtes cuts did the water scandal. It's not better in USA (they are runned by ****), not better in Belgium, U-K, France, Spain, Italy, Russia, etc. We have the chance to live in a peaceful place, you don't realize the chance you have. Elsewhere can be really worse.

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I know people that play $350 for 2 bedroom places. But they are a bit far away from the subways.. by a bit I mean 15-20 minutes walk or so. I live about 1-2 minute from a Subway, but not near the campus area, we have to pay around $550 for a 2 bedroom place.

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Thanks! I basically made this decision a couple days ago. And rent for a two-bedroom apartment is only $350? Wow! A two bedroom here at the cheapest is usually always $650 or more. All I need is a one-bedroom, I'm 21 and maybe I'll go back to college, so I'm not looking for a house, no way. I sure won't miss this frigid Edmonton weather either. It's a great city though.

In Edmonton our "rough" neighborhood is around the Coliseum. So in Montreal the rough part of town is Laval? I'll be sure to avoid that; thanks.

Moving to the west side of Montreal sounds okay, I really don't mind if I don't live in the "cool" party neighborhoods. Just moving to a new exciting city is satisfying enough. I decided to pack up and leave in the week after Canada day.

As for the political situation, I've always been a very political guy unil the whole Unite the Right thing, and I'm pretty disgusted with Canadian politics in general, so I just don't care anymore. besides, it will be neat to experience a whole different political outlook than Alberta's.

I just can't wait.

Oh, and do I have to hate Boston? They're my favorite American team; sorry lol.

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COME ON!!! I live in Ahuntsic and it's a great place to live...

1st of all, I live 20 min by bus from downtown... 15 by car.

2nd of all, my whole neighborhood is of italian origin, and they have some terrific parties in the near by parks with loads of booze, great food and great entertainment. Everybody is really friendly and the area is really nice.

Frankly, I'd recommand it to anyone. The rents are cheap, there are next to no violence, you're close to a LOT of subways and parks (and ice rinks ), really close to where the action is but not close enough to be bothered by it. And if you're into tennis, well there's a half of dozen city owned courts accessible by foot. Plus Park Jarry where the Ominum is held. Frankly, I couldn't be happier in my "suburb".

Of course, it's not the Plateau...

If you're like me and you want to enjoy every minute of the nightlife but rather stay in a nice neighbor, I'd say Ahuntsic definetly deserves a nod.

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Oh, and do I have to hate Boston? They're my favorite American team; sorry lol.
DON'T ever come in here!

As for the "rough" neighorhood, it's pretty much the "Hochelaga-Maisoneuve" area, but nothing like NY or LA streets of crime. Overall, Montreal is a pretty safe city. I never feel hesitant to walk in the streets where I live downtown around 2-3am, just for the fact that violence is mostly found in the form of annoying drunks coming out of bars and looking for a fight. But even though I'm a big guy, who would have a problem taking on some drunk who sees you in triple and is not even able to walk straight. It's more sad than anything.

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shaolin_goon, the political question is not important at all in everyday's life in Montreal. We live our lifes, we have fun, we have all the festivals in summer and the politics are only something we read in the newspapers. It botters us after a while but I think all the modern society around the world is runned by dummies, it's not better in Ontario where the drastics budgtes cuts did the water scandal. It's not better in USA (they are runned by ****), not better in Belgium, U-K, France, Spain, Italy, Russia, etc. We have the chance to live in a peaceful place, you don't realize the chance you have. Elsewhere can be really worse.
yes my friend, i agree that it's not as bad as everywhere else, but by taking the attitude that u have, of course things arent gonna get any better! we live in a country where our voices can be heard, even though im not a big fan of democracy (best of the worst though), we are still entitled to our opinions. the country will continue to be run by idiots if people dont do something about it...carelessness is the people's worst enemy and the corrupt politians best friend...of course, were not as bad as the US, but were getting there, with Paul Martin coming into office, now will be the time to really watch out for dumb actions...it's getting to be really scary, when u look at it...and on the US politics, oh man, dont even get me started...bunch of hypocrites. but u know what? the americans like it this way, that's the saddest and scariest part...i know, ive lived there

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Thanks! I basically made this decision a couple days ago. And rent for a two-bedroom apartment is only $350? Wow! A two bedroom here at the cheapest is usually always $650 or more. All I need is a one-bedroom, I'm 21 and maybe I'll go back to college, so I'm not looking for a house, no way. I sure won't miss this frigid Edmonton weather either. It's a great city though.

In Edmonton our "rough" neighborhood is around the Coliseum. So in Montreal the rough part of town is Laval? I'll be sure to avoid that; thanks.

Moving to the west side of Montreal sounds okay, I really don't mind if I don't live in the "cool" party neighborhoods. Just moving to a new exciting city is satisfying enough. I decided to pack up and leave in the week after Canada day.

As for the political situation, I've always been a very political guy unil the whole Unite the Right thing, and I'm pretty disgusted with Canadian politics in general, so I just don't care anymore. besides, it will be neat to experience a whole different political outlook than Alberta's.

I just can't wait.

Oh, and do I have to hate Boston? They're my favorite American team; sorry lol.
I strongly suggest you go back to school. Work won't be easy to find if you don't speak French and have no skills. My brother is in the same boat and it's not easy. Also, I don't know what these people are smoking, but rents in Montreal are expensive unless you want to live in the middle of nowhere. And people are great in the spring and summer, but in the winter many people turn very hostile in Montreal.

But if you can solve your work problem or can go to school, there is no better city than Montreal, no question. I strongly urge you to learn French, it will increase your options 100%. Otherwise, you might have trouble finding work. School is ALWAYS the right thing to do at 21 though!

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Thanks for the help everyone!

Well I have a place to stay with family. They will help me out for the first few months.

Also I've been watching RDS TV; I watched alot of the Habs/Thrashers game. It didn't help a whole heck of a lot, though I do know how to say "He scores!" in French now, lol. I'm a fast learner though, and found a website where I can learn more. To me, being a true Canadian means speaking both official language, and knowing how to skate which I do.

As for school, I just got out of 3 years of college right after high school so I have lots of edcuation, and Edmonton's education system is pretty harsh. I know it won't as easy to find a job in Montreal as Edmonton, but I'm still excited.

Munchasen, I can't thank you enough for visitenet.com, I already have the link saved.

All in all I'm looking forward to moving on to a great city and new experiences!

Happy 2004, Habs fans!

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