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06-26-2007, 11:12 AM
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So the hottest pieces of @ss this offseason are obviously Gomez, Briere, and Drury. What happens if the Rangers either can't get or do not want to spend the money on one of them. If Gomez, Breire, or Drury are looking to sign 5-7 mill a year deals, would anyone be oppsed to signing Viktor Kozlov or even Mike York back?

I think either would do well on the Rangers, and York has shown to be a very well rounded player both in New York already and elsewhere.

What do you guys think? York or Koz a good fit at 2-4 years, couple mill per?
Umm, this is not how I like to think of FA hockey players

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06-26-2007, 11:13 AM
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Read again.. Kozlov guy. Cheaper, 2nd line worthy..more games guaranteed.

Is that not what we need? Not an overpaid injury prone Forberg, who will get 1st line time.

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06-26-2007, 12:40 PM
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O GOD NO! York sucks, overated, small, lazy & HAS COMMITMENT ISSUES.
Kozlov is getting old

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06-26-2007, 12:47 PM
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Honestly, I want to jab pens in my eyes when some people suggest certain signings. York? Kozlov? How? Why???????

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06-26-2007, 12:52 PM
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Kozlov is getting old
He'll be what, 32 next year?

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Forget York and Kozlov.


Give Dubinsky, Brodie and Pyatt a shot at the job and give the winner a good 20-30 games, early this upcoming season. If the kid can't handle it, trade for someone.

P.S. Watching that video of Cherepanov (rookies prospect camp) on the Rangers site. Looks to me Cherepanov is a smooth and quick skater. Doesn't look slow to me.

He may not be a speed demon, but looks rather quick. Appears to have some real nice breakout/breakaway speed.

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06-26-2007, 01:09 PM
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No to Kozlov.

No to York.

Yes to Cheese Fries.

next thread...

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06-26-2007, 01:12 PM
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P.S. Watching that video of Cherepanov (rookies prospect camp) on the Rangers site. Looks to me Cherepanov is a smooth and quick skater. Doesn't look slow to me.

He may not be a speed demon, but looks rather quick. Appears to have some real nice breakout/breakaway speed.
P.S. - (i'll hijack this thread for a second)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5SJSG9AW54
Go to 1:00 - you'll find that hes pretty damn quick, gets to open spaces and can shoot while hes in stride.. WELL.

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06-26-2007, 01:21 PM
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Thank you, HockeyBasedNYC. But yeah, I had already seen that video.

The kid sure looks quick to me.

But what do I know, I'm an Ortmeyer fan

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06-26-2007, 02:08 PM
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I don't want either of those bums. York? Are you serious? I think he ranked dead last in the NHL in some sort of rating. I forget what it was, but I sure as hell don't want that piece of **** on my team next year.
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06-26-2007, 02:12 PM
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YUCK.

Give me Dubinsky over York and Kozlov.

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06-26-2007, 03:44 PM
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This is coming from one of the biggest Yorky fans out there. When he first came up in our organization I LOVED York and was so incredibly pissed when he got traded I almost disowned the Rangers:

York is terrible now, I thought he was good back in the day, but maybe it was Lindros and Fleury making him look good. I live in Philly and watch a lot of their games, York is not worthy of an NHL roster and to try and fill him in on the second line would kill us.

Viktor Kozlov has been the most frustrating player in the NHL since he got here. Loaded with offensive talent, soft hands, smooth skating ability, but has never once tried hard on the ice or at just about anything. No matter if he was able to pot 50 goals last season on the Isles, that is the last type of player I would want on my team, especially in my top six forwards. The only reason to get Viktor Kozlov, is for shootouts, and if we ever hire a guy for just shootouts, we might as well resign the season right there.

Furthermore, to say that you would take either of these guys over Peter the Great is possibly the dumbest thing I have ever read. 40 games from Foppa and 42 from Dubinsky at 2nd line center, would be 1,000,000 times better than either of the guys listed above.

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06-26-2007, 04:07 PM
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No to Kozlov.

No to York.

Yes to Cheese Fries.

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EMMMMMMMMMMMMMM CHEESE FRIES!

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Like it or not, Sather nailed the York trade. He sold that kid off at his highest possible value and got something better than what he gave up. He's a small, non physical forward who can't hold up for a full season. Plain as that. He hustled when nobody else was, and he was good while he was here, but he has pooped the bed everywhere since and there's not a chance on earth I'd bring him back here.

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Like it or not, Sather nailed the York trade. He sold that kid off at his highest possible value and got something better than what he gave up. He's a small, non physical forward who can't hold up for a full season. Plain as that. He hustled when nobody else was, and he was good while he was here, but he has pooped the bed everywhere since and there's not a chance on earth I'd bring him back here.
What did we get for him? Poti & Rem Murrary?

York was Good In Edmonton, somewhere along the line not sure if it was because of injury, he lost hos focus & commitment.

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Does this qualify as torture?

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Does this qualify as torture?

No just beating a..........

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Neither. I would rather go with what we have and give one of the kids a full blown shot. No need to waste the money or the ice time of those two.

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What did we get for him? Poti & Rem Murrary?

York was Good In Edmonton, somewhere along the line not sure if it was because of injury, he lost hos focus & commitment.
York was always a half season wonder. He always faded after the holidays. Now adays he just starts earlier!

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Furthermore, to say that you would take either of these guys over Peter the Great is possibly the dumbest thing I have ever read. 40 games from Foppa and 42 from Dubinsky at 2nd line center, would be 1,000,000 times better than either of the guys listed above.

There is nobody on these boards that would love to see a decently healthy Foppa playing on the Rangers more than I. If he could guarantee even 60-65 games I'd be satisfied. In the long run of the season, if Peter is injured and misses 40 games, there is going to be streches when the lines are all out of place, and him not playing is actually hurting the team more than JUST him not there. It will be disruptive.

My opinion is that I think the Rangers would benefit more over the season from Kozlov is he were getting 75-82 games, and 50 points, rather than Forsberg's point per game and 45 or so points in 40 games.

I'm not saying that Kozlov is better than Fors, but if he were to come here and be hurt like he has lately, A LOT, I'd take Kozlov. It's a much much safer choice to me, although he doesn't put up the kinds of points Peter does per game.

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Does this qualify as torture?
No, but it's very, very close.

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Does this qualify as torture?
i was thinking more along the lines of syphillis or the clap...

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As an Islander fan, I will just say. Ask a flyers fan about him. We made that trade for Robitaille with them and they were all excited about getting another speedy guy who can score. He is not fast by any means. The last 2 seasons he may have been the worst player in the NHL. NEver scores a big goal. Never plays the body. Never seems to hustle. It looks like his skates weight 15 lbs each.

Kozlov on the other hand, he was a steal for us last year. 800k for 25 goals.He did disapper for games at a time though. He can absolutely do that every season, just has to learn to shoot more. Ask Lundqvist, he has hell of a wrister.

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Witnessing both this season, i take Kozlov in a second. York was consistent, he sucked consistently. I'd rather take the inconsistent guy who puts up a 4 goal game once in a while.

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Kozlov, no question........unless it is Forsberg.

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