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06-26-2007, 10:38 PM
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Q & A with Lombardi @ Select a seat

Just got back. Dean sat with about 30 of us for about an hour and half and answered all our questions. I will give yall the run down of it.

Lombardi tried to trade for Voukon. Predators wanted 1st round pick , 2nd rounc pick, Jonathan Bernier. Lombardi said no.

Lombardi mentioned "if" he would do a deal like that he wouldnt want to move 1st round picks or a top goalie prospect and through a Dustin Brown + 2 second round picks as an EXAMPLE. I took it as somthing he tried to do.

Mentioned that there are still 2 or 3 players that he farmed out of San Jose who still call him Dad.

Said that Hickey was the right pick. Hickey would have been taken by Carolina , St Louis and Boston if he didnt grab him.

I asked why Hickey over Alzner. He said Alzner will step into the caps lineup as a 3 - 4 d-man next year. But Hickey has an untapped potential. He said Hickey offers more of an all around game. Said that Hickey can see the ice like a Pronger/Neidermyer and can get back and fourth up and down with the best of em.

Cammaler is going to Arbitration. Hextall told us all that.

Lundmark was not Qualified because he doesnt fit in there plans down the middle.

That was the jist of it.


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Just got back. Dean sat with about 30 of us for about an hour and half and answered all our questions. I will give yall the run down of it.

Lombardi tried to trade for Voukon. Predators wanted 1st round pick , 2nd rounc pick, Jonathan Bernier. Lombardi said no.

Lombardi counter offered Dustin Brown , and 2 second round picks and Predators said no.

Mentioned that there are still 2 or 3 players that he farmed out of San Jose who still call him Dad.

Said that Hickey was the right pick. Hickey would have been taken by Carolina , St Louis and Boston if he didnt grab him.

I asked why Hickey over Alzner. He said Alzner will step into the caps lineup as a 3 - 4 d-man next year. But Hickey has an untapped potential. He said Hickey offers more of an all around game. Said that Hickey can see the ice like a Pronger/Neidermyer and can get back and fourth up and down with the best of em.

Cammaler is going to Arbitration. Hextall told us all that.

Lundmark was not Qualified because he doesnt fit in there plans down the middle.

That was the jist of it.
Thanks. A lot of our questions were answered in that one post.

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ALSO! FORGOT TO ADD!

LOMBARDI IS NOT INTERESTED IN.

MANNY FERNANDEZ.
MARTIN GERBER.
ED BELFOUR.
CURTIS JOSEPH.

RAYCROFT IS BEING SHOPPED AND HE DOES NOT WANT HIM EITHER.

Forgot to add that.

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Thanks...I'm surprised he was so candid about offering Brown up for Vokoun.

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06-26-2007, 10:50 PM
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ALSO! FORGOT TO ADD!

LOMBARDI IS NOT INTERESTED IN.

MANNY FERNANDEZ.
MARTIN GERBER.
ED BELFOUR.
CURTIS JOSEPH.

RAYCROFT IS BEING SHOPPED AND HE DOES NOT WANT HIM EITHER.

Forgot to add that.
I knew all that junk was Eklund, uh, I mean media hyped!

Thanks for the info. Great stuff! So GLAD he said no the the 1st, 2nd and Bernier offer!!!

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Brown for Vokoun, pass.

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Thanks...I'm surprised he was so candid about offering Brown up for Vokoun.
Actually he used the word "if"

Also said that Frolov is an underachiver.

Cammaleri has to get better for what he wants.

and that Dustin Brown came out of the shell a little bit but not as much as lot of them expected.

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I knew all that junk was Eklund, uh, I mean media hyped!

Thanks for the info. Great stuff! So GLAD he said no the the 1st, 2nd and Bernier offer!!!

Yup. I'm down with finally getting a starting goalie (for the first time in a decade).

But thats a stupid overpayment...

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What do you mean he used if?

He asked if he would offer Brown + for Vokoun would the Preds accept, and they said no?

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What do you mean he used if?

He asked if he would offer Brown + for Vokoun would the Preds accept, and they said no?
If the offer was Brown + 2 second round picks they could have moved forward from there. Which I got the vibe that he was suggesting thats what he offered back.

Also, when asked about Free Agnecy.

Someone asked about Drury or Briere. And he specifically said. I would take the less talented one with more Character and better leadership over the glaring talent.

He had his hands tied. He really didnt feel comfortable saying anything. Said they are not aloud to say stuff about anyone until after July 1st. But he through some hints. Even though he didnt say forsure.

He mentioned 2 or 3 times. That "yes" players do want to come to LA. But he wants to make sure its for the right reasons. And NOT To retire or get out of the grind of things. Live in the sunshine.

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I noticed that Bryzgalov is not on that list, is that just an omission on your part, or are we going with a LaBabs/Cloutier/Ersberg through the year.

I don't really know what more they expect out of Frolov. He's not going to score 100 points in a season. He'll improve defensively and be good for 35 goals a year. You get what you pay for (and more considering his current market value).

Cammalleri had a breakout season. I'm assuming that he means they want Cammy to be more of a leader ala Briere.

Brownie is coming, it's just taking more time for his development. He's still young, but if he almost got dealt for Vohkun, then he may get dealt for somebody else.

Any other developments?

Is the offseason priority to get better defensemen?

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Actually he used the word "if"

Also said that Frolov is an underachiver.

Cammaleri has to get better for what he wants.

and that Dustin Brown came out of the shell a little bit but not as much as lot of them expected.
I cross posted and quoted you over on LGk becasue god knows you werent gonna do it

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I noticed that Bryzgalov is not on that list, is that just an omission on your part, or are we going with a LaBabs/Cloutier/Ersberg through the year.

I don't really know what more they expect out of Frolov. He's not going to score 100 points in a season. He'll improve defensively and be good for 35 goals a year. You get what you pay for (and more considering his current market value).

Cammalleri had a breakout season. I'm assuming that he means they want Cammy to be more of a leader ala Briere.

Brownie is coming, it's just taking more time for his development. He's still young, but if he almost got dealt for Vohkun, then he may get dealt for somebody else.

Any other developments?

Is the offseason priority to get better defensemen?

Lombardi didnt say a thing about Bryz. I didnt keep it out.

He did say that. That JLB was extremely out of shape. He didnt seem like he wanted the job. And was very un impressive. And that he got alot better when he went to Manchester took it in stride and really worked on his phyical condition. He said JLB will most likely get a REAL shot this year.

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ALSO! FORGOT TO ADD!

LOMBARDI IS NOT INTERESTED IN.

MANNY FERNANDEZ.
MARTIN GERBER.
ED BELFOUR.
CURTIS JOSEPH.

RAYCROFT IS BEING SHOPPED AND HE DOES NOT WANT HIM EITHER.

Forgot to add that.
So who does that leave? Burke won't trade Bryzgalov to the Kings. Toskala is gone too. Oh God please no Esche.

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I cross posted and quoted you over on LGk becasue god knows you werent gonna do it

totally...

good heads up RnF!

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I would not have done the Brown deal and I'm glad the Preds didn't accept. I would have offered up what Florida did. I don't know why they couldn't work something out if draft picks was all it was going to take especially since the Kings have a lot of them for next year.

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Holy Crap, RaF. Thanks for the rundown. I wish someone could've turned on a recording device at this thing. This is gonna spawn an interesting thread on about 4 different levels...

Dustin Brown as trade bait - not too stoked that this has happened publicly, but I do like the offer to Nash for Vokoun. Their offer to us was too steep and I'm glad we passed.

Cammalleri to arbitration - "has to get better for what he wants" means, to me, that they're discussing extension and MC is looking for 5+. This is a dangerous game of brinksmanship... I am NOT pessemistic by nature, but I don't like where this seems to be going... Claws come out during arbitration hearings and players can get soured on management and organ-I-zations if they're not thick skinned...

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I would not have done the Brown deal and I'm glad the Preds didn't accept. I would have offered up what Florida did. I don't know why they couldn't work something out if draft picks was all it was going to take especially since the Kings have a lot of them for next year.
Dean Lombardi did not want to trade away 1st round picks. He said when the time is right and he is just adding valuable peices for a playoff run he will do that. But there are way to many holes to fill and doesnt want to do that.

Also. The price was STEEPER for the Kings. Because we are in the WEST with the Predators. So Florida got a better deal

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I don't know why he thinks Frolov is an underacheiver. He is just a streaky player and he has been improving every year. I'm sure that he will continue to become more consistent. He is only 24 and I'm sure he will become a consistent player once he hits his prime which could be as early as next season. Please don't trade Frolov.

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Holy Crap, RaF. Thanks for the rundown. I wish someone could've turned on a recording device at this thing. This is gonna spawn an interesting thread on about 4 different levels...

Dustin Brown as trade bait - not too stoked that this has happened publicly, but I do like the offer to Nash for Vokoun. Their offer to us was too steep and I'm glad we passed.

Cammalleri to arbitration - "has to get better for what he wants" means, to me, that they're discussing extension and MC is looking for 5+. This is a dangerous game of brinksmanship... I am NOT pessemistic by nature, but I don't like where this seems to be going... Claws come out during arbitration hearings and players can get soured on management and organ-I-zations if they're not thick skinned...
I dont want the Dustin Brown Rumors to run RAMPANT. He used it as an exmple. And I took it that it was somthing he was considering. Please!

When making talking about the Bernier + picks deal he mentioned Kippersoff in that same sentence. I didnt catch it. But I think he said somthing along the lines like. "if were talking about Kippersoff" then thats a whole diffrent playing field.

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Dean Lombardi did not want to trade away 1st round picks. He said when the time is right and he is just adding valuable peices for a playoff run he will do that. But there are way to many holes to fill and doesnt want to do that.

Also. The price was STEEPER for the Kings. Because we are in the WEST with the Predators. So Florida got a better deal
Oh ok. Thanks for clearing that up.

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Thanks...I'm surprised he was so candid about offering Brown up for Vokoun.
yeah, that's a real confidence booster right there

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If the offer was Brown + 2 second round picks they could have moved forward from there. Which I got the vibe that he was suggesting thats what he offered back.

Also, when asked about Free Agnecy.

Someone asked about Drury or Briere. And he specifically said. I would take the less talented one with more Character and better leadership over the glaring talent.

He had his hands tied. He really didnt feel comfortable saying anything. Said they are not aloud to say stuff about anyone until after July 1st. But he through some hints. Even though he didnt say forsure.

He mentioned 2 or 3 times. That "yes" players do want to come to LA. But he wants to make sure its for the right reasons. And NOT To retire or get out of the grind of things. Live in the sunshine.
That's one hell of a hint...but I'm glad he's interested in Drury and that Drury, seemingly, is somewhat interested in LA.

As for his comments on the young guns, Fro does need to be more consistent in his efforts despite his solid point total; what he did this year was get hotter in his hot streaks, not improve his consistency. However, I'm not really complaining about him. He's locked up to a good deal and he put good points on the board throughout the season. It seems to me that DL is likely more concerned with his underachiever attitude than his point totals.

The Cammalleri comments do worry me a bit; I can understand that, depending on what he is asking for, MC might have to prove he can be a top point-getter and leader for more than one year if he wants top dollar. DL's words make me think Cammalleri and his agent might have started the ball rolling at 5.5+. Looks like we're likely in store for another 1-year (possibly arbitration) settlement?

Brown certainly improved this year; toward the end, especially, he really started employing a bit more of a power game and, more importantly, becoming a catalyst for the play instead of a beneficiary of it. But, I get the impression that DL still views Brown as his most valuable tradeable asset; I've had that impression ever since he and Gleason were locked up to two-year deals at the beginning of the year when long-term or 1-year deals seemed more fitting and then Gleason was promptly shipped out for JJ. For my part, I think that, last off-season, DL was positioning one of those two to look more attractive in a trade by getting them inked to a mid-size contract; and, as DL's comments indicate, while DB improved his game and demeanour to some extent, I would imagine that they're not to the point where they consider him a player on their "must-keep" list.

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Cammalleri to arbitration - "has to get better for what he wants" means, to me, that they're discussing extension and MC is looking for 5+. This is a dangerous game of brinksmanship... I am NOT pessemistic by nature, but I don't like where this seems to be going... Claws come out during arbitration hearings and players can get soured on management and organ-I-zations if they're not thick skinned...
I agree. I hope this gets settled soon. I don't see how giving him a long term deal for 5+M is bad with the cap going up and with players like Gomez/Briere getting 7+M. Cammalleri is one player that I would feel comfortable giving a long term deal to even if it is for 5+M.

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Just got back. Dean sat with about 30 of us for about an hour and half and answered all our questions. I will give yall the run down of it.

Lombardi tried to trade for Voukon. Predators wanted 1st round pick , 2nd rounc pick, Jonathan Bernier. Lombardi said no.

Lombardi counter offered Dustin Brown , and 2 second round picks and Predators said no.

Mentioned that there are still 2 or 3 players that he farmed out of San Jose who still call him Dad.

Said that Hickey was the right pick. Hickey would have been taken by Carolina , St Louis and Boston if he didnt grab him.

I asked why Hickey over Alzner. He said Alzner will step into the caps lineup as a 3 - 4 d-man next year. But Hickey has an untapped potential. He said Hickey offers more of an all around game. Said that Hickey can see the ice like a Pronger/Neidermyer and can get back and fourth up and down with the best of em.

Cammaler is going to Arbitration. Hextall told us all that.

Lundmark was not Qualified because he doesnt fit in there plans down the middle.

That was the jist of it.
Like this guy hasn't pissed me off enough already. Trading Dustin Brown would have been a joke. I like Vokoun and we definitely need goaltending but why trade Brown? We have about 100 prospects we can move.

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