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06-28-2007, 07:54 AM
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Will Larionov be voted into the HOF?

Igor Larionov is a candidate to be voted into the HOF, only thing is he's going up against Mark Messier, Ron Francis, Al MacInnis, Adam Oates, Scott Stevens, and get this...Claude Lemieux.

Lemieux doesn't stand a chance of getting in, I don't think that Stevens really does either.

So if a maximum of 4 can get in and Francis and Messier are locks, who gets in and who doesn't between Oates, MacInnis, and Larionov?
sportsmanship is a big part of it and Oates put up a lot of points and was a classy guy to boot, former Red Wing, It'd be nice to see him get his due. MacInnis or Larionov? You could debate that for quite a while, I think historically Larionov will go down as one of the NHL's most important players because he was one of the first to defect, and he was a brilliant passer, great hockey sense and an ambassador for the game.

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Mess and Ronnie Franchise are no-brainers...I think Stevens is a strong possibility for this year as well. Chopper and Oates could get in eventually and I think Igor might get in next year...that's without knowing who's eligible for next year. I don't recall the requirements to get in but it's not often you see more than 3 or 4 guys get in at a time. I think the class of 2007 will be Messier, Francis and Stevens.

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Mess, Franchise, Mac, and Professor would be my guess.

Lemieux's name stands out like one of those "which of the following doesn't fit" questions from elementary school. Oatsey & Stevens should/will get in eventually, just not this year.

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He better be voted!

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I would hope so. This is a tough class this year but I expect to see him at the HOF induction ceremony

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He will, but not this year. Besides the people he's going up against, I believe he's considered ineligable because last year he played a few pro games in a Swedish league(I think it was the one below SEL)

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He will, but not this year. Besides the people he's going up against, I believe he's considered ineligable because last year he played a few pro games in a Swedish league(I think it was the one below SEL)
If that's the case, why is he even nominated this year?

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If that's the case, why is he even nominated this year?
I didn't know if he was actually nominated, or if the newspaper columists were speculating on it.

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I didn't know if he was actually nominated, or if the newspaper columists were speculating on it.
"Messier heads a formidable group of players who are eligible for the first time, including Ron Francis, Scott Stevens, Al MacInnis, Adam Oates, Igor Larionov and Claude Lemieux."
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=211943&hubname=nhl

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"Messier heads a formidable group of players who are eligible for the first time, including Ron Francis, Scott Stevens, Al MacInnis, Adam Oates, Igor Larionov and Claude Lemieux."
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=211943&hubname=nhl
Thats the thing....I think that they are wrong about the eligibility. Those two pro games could be used to reclassify Iggy to a couple years down the road.

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He will, but not this year. Besides the people he's going up against, I believe he's considered ineligable because last year he played a few pro games in a Swedish league(I think it was the one below SEL)
That doesn't matter...... he is still eligible...

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I'd rather see Igor get in than Lemieux. Forgive me, but in the heart of every Red Wing fan I'm sure you'll find a little bit of dislike for him.

If you take everything that Igor did through his career, not only here but in Russia as well, I think he'd be seriously considered.

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Not this year.

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Larionov absolutely will be in the Hall of Fame, and the only reason he wasn't ahead of Stevens is because he played a lot of his career in Russia and wasn't a great player in the NHL.

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I think he was a great player in the NHL, very underrated. His time in the NHL was just short compared to others. He defected as soon as it was possible. [and as a side note, some of those stories are really good, as in how we got Fedorov] but he was arguably the best passer of his day. Didn't rack up the most assists but that guy had a magic touch, superb hockey sense, and great patience with the puck, not to mention what a mentor he was, and the work he put in then and still, as an ambassador for the game. I'd say the professor is as safe a pick as just about any for the hall.

If he doesn't get in this year, I'd understand, what with going up against Mark Messier and Ron Francis and such, but he should be a lock down the road.

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well he didn't get in.

the new hall of famers are
Mark Messier
Ron Francis
Scott Stevens
Al MacInnis

I'm pretty disapointed, I think you could easily make a case for Igor over Stevens or MacInnis, although they were both high quality defensemen.

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well he didn't get in.

the new hall of famers are
Mark Messier
Ron Francis
Scott Stevens
Al MacInnis

I'm pretty disapointed, I think you could easily make a case for Igor over Stevens or MacInnis, although they were both high quality defensemen.
no you can't. stevens and macinnis are more deserving then him.

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Larionov absolutely will be in the Hall of Fame, and the only reason he wasn't ahead of Stevens is because he played a lot of his career in Russia and wasn't a great player in the NHL.
I think he was every bit as good as Stevens in the NHL,but you are right that he played his prime years in the Soviet Union although this is the Hockey Hall of Fame and not just the NHL Hall of Fame.... Igor derserved it before Stevens and Mac imho.

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I think he was every bit as good as Stevens in the NHL,but you are right that he played his prime years in the Soviet Union although this is the Hockey Hall of Fame and not just the NHL Hall of Fame.... Igor derserved it before Stevens and Mac imho.
homer much?

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homer much?
there's a case to be made for Igor over those 2, just because he didn't make it doesn't mean there isn't one.

i'm not going to bother either because he'll get in sooner than later, but it's not a slam dunk to elect Scotty and Mac over the Prof, as you make it seem.

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homer much?
Not really, the guy was a legend before he even set foot in the NHL. Pay attention much?

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Larionov absolutely will be in the Hall of Fame, and the only reason he wasn't ahead of Stevens is because he played a lot of his career in Russia and wasn't a great player in the NHL.
Agreed. The voting always has an extreme North America bias.

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Not really, the guy was a legend before he even set foot in the NHL. Pay attention much?
if u think larionov deserves to be ahead of mcinnis or stevens then u are sorely mistaken. he deserves to be in the HOF, but not ahead of them. hey, i guess the ppl that matter agree with me, and not u

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if u think larionov deserves to be ahead of mcinnis or stevens then u are sorely mistaken. he deserves to be in the HOF, but not ahead of them. hey, i guess the ppl that matter agree with me, and not u
Read the post above yours....this is the Hockey Hall of Fame...not the NHL Hall of Fame. God forbid if an European get in before a Canadian...

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Maybe not right away...

But if Recchi is in there one day and Larionov isn't... well... that's just a damn travesty.

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