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Worst case senario
So what do you guys think we would do if we don't land any of the big three centers(drury, briere, gomez). And who knows whats going on with nylander. Any thoughts?
So what do you guys think we would do if we don't land any of the big three centers(drury, briere, gomez). And who knows whats going on with nylander. Any thoughts?
Well if you don't have one of those top four centers, then you could look at trading for Marleau who is probably the 5th best option. After that you might look around and see if there might be a trade to be made, otherwise it's going to be slim pickens.
You mean best case scenario... I say screw the "big three" give Dubi or Jarkko a chance to claim that role... It goes without saying but Nylander should be signed thou....
Hossa-Straka-Jagr (Remember, this was the line before Straka got hurt)
Avery-Dubinsky-Shanahan (Sub Dubinsky with a second tier free agent possibly; maybe a Comrie or Handzus)
Prucha-Cullen-Callahan
Some amalgation of Betts, Orr, Hollweg and Dawes.
Hossa-Straka-Jagr (Remember, this was the line before Straka got hurt)
Avery-Dubinsky-Shanahan (Sub Dubinsky with a second tier free agent possibly; maybe a Comrie or Handzus)
Prucha-Cullen-Callahan
Some amalgation of Betts, Orr, Hollweg and Dawes.
Yeah.
i would much.....MUCH rather go into the season with that lineup than give Nylander 5.33 mil for 3 years, or gomez 8 for 6 years.
i would much.....MUCH rather go into the season with that lineup than give Nylander 5.33 mil for 3 years, or gomez 8 for 6 years.
If we stay with that line up I predict our season will be too similar to the last year. Hossa doesn't belong on the top line and Dubinsky is yet to prove himself. We need at least Nylander or Gomez if we are to even think of competing for the cup
If we stay with that line up I predict our season will be too similar to the last year. Hossa doesn't belong on the top line and Dubinsky is yet to prove himself. We need at least Nylander of Gomez if we are to even think of competing for the cup
Hossa deserves a shot at the 1st line. He earned at least that. He gave us some seriously impressive play 2nd half of the season before the injury. His style on Jagrs opposite wing was great and he jumped right in there with Jagr and Nylanders puck control game
So what do you guys think we would do if we don't land any of the big three centers(drury, briere, gomez). And who knows whats going on with nylander. Any thoughts?
I think worst case scenerio is not if you don't sign one of them, it's if you do sign one of them to a big money long term deal and they turn out to be a dud.
Personally from a rangers standpoint i would try make a pitch for Forsberg and while this may seem stupid, Plan 9 would be you can try trade for federov, who has 1 year left on his deal and would give you some cap space next summer.
Hossa-Straka-Jagr (Remember, this was the line before Straka got hurt)
Avery-Dubinsky-Shanahan (Sub Dubinsky with a second tier free agent possibly; maybe a Comrie or Handzus)
Prucha-Cullen-Callahan
Some amalgation of Betts, Orr, Hollweg and Dawes.
Yeah.
Exactly! This is why I think Sather is going all 'cool hand luke' with Nylander and the rest. He already has Straka on the cheaps for as long as Jagr is around and that line played pretty well for us. Believe me, I would love Nylander back, but if Nylander is looking to get paid big money long term so he can take care of his 37 kids, I don't blame him. Now, if he's looking to take a shot at the cup, and is willing to come in at $4.5 to $5 for a max of 3 years (I know... but with the numbers he'll put up playing with JJ, he'll be quite affordable trade bait by the 3rd year), then THAT is a different story. All in all, I think Sather is going to play it slow because he knows he can use Straka with JJ, and if he can sign one of the top centers, he is assuring we'll at least have a replacement in place not only for the next two 'Jagr years', but beyond.
If we stay with that line up I predict our season will be too similar to the last year. Hossa doesn't belong on the top line and Dubinsky is yet to prove himself. We need at least Nylander or Gomez if we are to even think of competing for the cup
you mean last year, where we were just a few seconds and a botched play by malik from going to the E.C.F.?
im A-OK with that.
Remember, thats another year for the core group of kids to learn, grow, and mature. maybe we wont win the cup, but we'll be further along on the rebuild.
Im telling you, drury, gomez, nylander, briere, these ARENT the guys to break the bank on.
if youre telling me the rangers will offer thornton, lecavalier, heatley, iginla, etc 8 mil per season for 6 years, id be doing backflips.
but to give 2nd line players that kind of money, or that kind of length, is beyond asinine, it borders on complete ineptitude. I believe it was Fish who said, teams like the Devils win because they know at what price to walk away from a guy. I couldnt agree more.
Gomez, not so much.
Drury, not so much.
ill tell you this though, id be willing, at most, to shell out 11 million for a total of up to 10 years (7 preferred) for 2 centers. i dont care how the cash, or years are divided, but if you can get me 2 centers for that length of time, then ill be ok with it.
if you cant do that, then Nylander at 4.5 for 2 years would be my max to him, and Gomez Drury or Briere can sign a 5 year at 5.5 per.
if none of those get it done, id looks tier 2 for 1 or 2 years, Or just promote from within.
This is one of the weaker free agent groups folks. Not the time to blow your wad.
if you cant do that, then Nylander at 4.5 for 2 years would be my max to him, and Gomez Drury or Briere can sign a 5 year at 5.5 per.
if none of those get it done, id looks tier 2 for 1 or 2 years, Or just promote from within.
This is one of the weaker free agent groups folks. Not the time to blow your wad.
Some pretty good points, this is a weak free agency group. But if anyone deserves the money it's Nylander he's tried and true with JJ. You put those 2 on the ice and add another player and you have a line that scores.
Gomez isn't worth the money thats for sure. Drury may be but only as a 2nd line C and not a burden of a contract. Nylander and 1 UFA center would get the job done in my eyes.
you mean last year, where we were just a few seconds and a botched play by malik from going to the E.C.F.?
That is true, but Hossa did almost nothing during that series. I want to give him another chance on the first line but he is still a whopping question mark when all things are considered.
I agree with all your other points though. Although I'd like Gomez or Drury, offering them 8 million a year would turn around to bite us in the ass in the long run
Like I said a million and two times, for that money I'm willing to sign Yashin for 2 mil, give Pruu a raise, sign, Nylander, and King Henrik... I believe Yashin is the best available center out there who will fill the gap the best until Dubi, Immo or Artem prove that they are ready.... Screw the so called big three, their career stats do not warrant a pay check of 8 million.
WORST case scenario, Yashin & Lang. It won't come to that though, we will get either Drury, Gomez or keep Nylander.
But I hope we'll see:
Straka-Nylander-Jagr
Hossa-Drury-Shanahan
Avery-Cullen-Callahan
H-B-O
Fitting it under the cap will be tricky, but Prucha might get big offers, if we can't afford him, no biggy. Trading Cullen is another option, we have plentiful 3rd liners who aren't being paid 2.8mil.
Another scenario if we must bring in 2 UFA centers. and Nylander & Shanny walk.
WORST case scenario, Yashin & Lang. It won't come to that though, we will get either Drury, Gomez or keep Nylander.
But I hope we'll see:
Straka-Nylander-Jagr
Hossa-Drury-Shanahan
Avery-Cullen-Callahan
H-B-O
Fitting it under the cap will be tricky, but Prucha might get big offers, if we can't afford him, no biggy. Trading Cullen is another option, we have plentiful 3rd liners who aren't being paid 2.8mil.
Another scenario if we must bring in 2 UFA centers. and Nylander & Shanny walk.
prucha is a RFA, i dont think hes going to sign a huge offersheet.
and even if he did, id assume the rangers would sign him to it, or if its over the threshold, take the first rounders and get out like the bandits they would be.
