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07-03-2007, 09:21 AM
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Gagne with 50 goals? Is this a joke?
Yeah, you know, the same guy who scored 47 in 72 two years ago....

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07-03-2007, 09:51 AM
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Gagne - 45
Briere - 32
Knuble - 25

Hartnell - 25
Carter - 32
Lupul - 27

Upshall - 18
Richards - 18
Kapanen - 10

Eager - 7
Umberger- 15
Downie - 5

259 total from forwards.

Timonen - 14
Coburn - 5
Picard - 9
Kukkonen - 3
Hatcher - 1
Smith - 2

34 total from defensemen.

293 total

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07-03-2007, 09:58 AM
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Ok, first off no team last year scored 300 goals. The previous year only 2 teams scored 300 goals with tops being Ott at 312 (I think). Before the new rules, 260 was about the upper limit. A top 5 offensive team will likely score around 270 goals. Now for mine.

Gagne - 55
Briere - 33
Knuble - 28

Hartnell - 24
Carter - 27
Lupul - 26

Umberger - 12
Richards - 11
Upshall - 9

Eager - 7
Downie - 6
Kapanen - 4

25 goals from defense

Total goal production: 267

This should put us as about the 6th or 7th highest scoring team in the league and I think that's being very optimistic.

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07-03-2007, 10:03 AM
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buffalo scored 300 goals last year

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07-03-2007, 10:04 AM
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buffalo scored 300 goals last year
The stats that I have show them at 298 for the regular season. Post season goals arent counted.

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07-03-2007, 11:56 AM
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Gagne- 56
Briere- 38
Knuble-28

Hartnell- 25
Carter- 28
Lupul- 28

Upshall-19
Richards-10
Umberger-15

Eager- 5
Downie- 5
Kapanen- 5

262 Goals.

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07-03-2007, 12:58 PM
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Gagne with 50 goals? Is this a joke?
He scored 47 two years ago in only 72 games. Last year he scored 41 in 76 games with no one at center most of the year and playing for the first half of the season hurt.

If Gagne is healthy all year, he's a very good bet for 50 goals next year.

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07-03-2007, 01:01 PM
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Gagne- 52
Briere- 35
Knuble-28
1st line: 115

Hartnell- 27
Carter-30
Lupul-21
2nd line: 78

Upshall- 20
Richards-15
Umberger- 20
3rd line: 55

Kapanen-10
XXXXX- 5
Eager-8
4th line: 23

Total: 271
Injuries: -25
Total: 246

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07-03-2007, 01:15 PM
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Is there any way to see what some of the better teams last year scored? Or how many we scored?
Last year, Eastern Conference playoff teams:

Buffalo: 308
Ottawa: 288
Pittsburgh: 277
Tampa: 253
NY Islanders: 248
Atlanta: 246
NY Rangers: 242
New Jersey: 216

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07-03-2007, 01:25 PM
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I'm not going to bother with the rest because it's too much effort, but:

Gagne - 60

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07-03-2007, 01:44 PM
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Gagne 47
Briere 35
Knuble 27

Hartnell 24
Carter 28
Upshall 22

Umberger 16
Richards 17
Lupul 22

Eager 8
Kapanen 11
Downie-9

Subtotal: 266

Timmonen- 15
Smith- 5

Hatcher- 7
Coburn- 10

Kukkonen 8
Picard 12

TOTAL: 323

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07-03-2007, 07:23 PM
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Gagne with 50 goals? Is this a joke?
If him and Briere are healthy for the majority of the season, he hits 50 easy.

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07-03-2007, 09:34 PM
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Gagne - 58
Briere - 34
Knuble - 29

Hartnell - 23
Carter - 31
Lupul - 22

Kapanen - 8
Richards - 20
Upshall - 27

Eager - 5
Umberger - 9
Downie - 9

Forwards = 276

Also, I added an extra 10 goals for Upshall since I'm buying his jersey.

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07-03-2007, 09:51 PM
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Gagne - 46
Briere - 30
Knuble - 28

Hartnell - 26
Carter - 30
Lupul - 28

Umberger - 15
Richards - 22
Upshall - 21

Eager - 11
Downie - 13
Kapanen - 10

Total: 280

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07-03-2007, 09:52 PM
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Gagne - 47
Briere - 28
Knuble - 25

Hartnell - 22
Carter - 26
Lupul - 23

Kapanen - 7
Richards - 12
Upshall - 23

Eager - 5
Umberger - traded
Downie - 5
Potulny-6

Timonen- 11
Smith- 2
Coburn- 8
Hatcher- 1
Picard- 5
Gauthier- 1
Parent- 0

Total- 257

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07-04-2007, 03:32 PM
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Last year, Eastern Conference playoff teams:

Buffalo: 308
Ottawa: 288
Pittsburgh: 277
Tampa: 253
NY Islanders: 248
Atlanta: 246
NY Rangers: 242
New Jersey: 216

Well, I'm not certain where you or a few others got your stats from but clearly you are not in agreement with either NHL.com or ESPN.

Here's the team goals report for the regular season from both NHL.com and ESPN:
http://www.nhl.com/nhlstats/app
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/statis...e=2&league=nhl

Both have Buff at the top with 298 and Ott 2nd with 286.

Some of you guys who are predicting 275+ goals just by our forwardss alone, way to be optomistic. I guess that's kind of like many of us expecting Pronger like returns for trading Joni.

If we get 240-250 from our forwards and another 20-30 from our defense we will be doing well and our young guys will be having a pretty decent year. If our forwards do somehow hit 260 goals or more then most if not all of our young forwards will be having breakout years and just blowing the league away. Just remember, Buffalo only scored 270 goals last year by their forwards.

285 by our forwards??? 300+ ????

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07-04-2007, 08:05 PM
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Briere-32
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Hartnell-23
Richards-26
Upshall-22

Lupul-22
Carter-23
Umberger-19

Eager-6
Potulny-6
Kapanen-11

Total = 270

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08-13-2007, 09:17 AM
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Bump back to the top.

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08-13-2007, 12:04 PM
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Briere-35
Knuble-27

Hartnell-23
Richards-20
Upshall-17

Lupul-20
Carter-21
Umberger-17


Eager-7
Potulny-4
Kapanen-11


Biron-1 ()
Niittymaki-0


Total:254

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08-13-2007, 12:22 PM
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Gagne - 50G 30A
Briere - 30G 50A
Knuble - 25G 30A

Hartnell - 20G 30A
Carter - 25G 25A
Lupul - 20G 20A

Upshall - 20G 25A
Richards - 15G 35A
Kapanen - 10G 20A

Eager - 5G 15A
Umberger - 10G 15A
Downie - 5G 10A

235 total goals from forwards, 305 assists from forwards

Timonen - 10G 40A
Coburn - 5G 20A
Picard - 10G 15A
Kukkonen - 2G 15A
Hatcher - 1G 10A
Smith - 2G 10A

30 total goals from defensemen, 110 assists from defensemen

235 + 30 = 265 Total Goals
305+110 = 415 Total Assists

Will edit these numbers after more extensive review of stats from last year and previous years.

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08-13-2007, 12:23 PM
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Well, I'm not certain where you or a few others got your stats from but clearly you are not in agreement with either NHL.com or ESPN.

Here's the team goals report for the regular season from both NHL.com and ESPN:
http://www.nhl.com/nhlstats/app
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/statis...e=2&league=nhl

Both have Buff at the top with 298 and Ott 2nd with 286.
You've got the wrong stats... Use the Standings goals for column.

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=p...sPage&type=CON

Buffalo 308

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08-13-2007, 12:26 PM
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I'll revise mine

G - A = P
Gagne - 48 - 30 = 78
Briere - 32 - 55 = 87
Knuble - 30 - 30 = 60

Hartnell - 25 - 35 = 60
Carter - 31 - 30 = 61
Lupul - 21 - 25 = 46

Kapanen - 10 - 25 = 35
Richards - 18 - 30 = 48
Upshall - 22 - 26 = 48

Eager - 6 - 15 = 21
Potulny - 10 - 18 = 28
Cote - 2 - 6 = 8

255 from the forwards

Timonen - 13 - 40 = 53
Smith - 2 -9 = 11

Coburn - 6 - 20 = 26
Hatcher - 2 - 5 = 7

Kukkonen - 8 - 18 = 26
Picard - 11 - 24 = 35

42 from defensemen

= 297 total goals

Being an ideal situation (nothing is ever ideal), factor out about 20 goals and it brings the total to 277. I think that is reasonable, a bit optimistic, but not totally off the wall

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I'll revise mine
No Umberger this time?

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No Umberger this time?
Right. I'm famous around these parts for wanting to ship him out of here.

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Gagne - 48
Briere - 30
Knuble - 29
Hartnell - 28
Carter - 22
Lupul - 22
Umberger - 20
Richards - 15
Upshall - 17
Eager - 7
Potulny - 10
Kapanen - 8


Total: 256

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