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07-03-2007, 04:10 AM
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Dean Lombardi hints at going after Lundqvist

http://www.insidesocal.com/kings/200...otes.html#more


(Do you anticipate being done with free agency?)

``I think we're OK. One thing we're looking at is that if these contracts continue to go up, at some point people are going to get boxed in. Actually, you're already hearing the rumors about the Rangers. OK, you did really good, you got those two guys with those contracts, but you're hearing the rumblings out there that now they're vulnerable to an offer sheet on Lundqvist. I'm not saying that it's going to happen or that I'm going to do anything like that. The point is, this whole idea of keeping cap space doesn't really hit home yet. I think that's why you're seeing some of these contracts.''

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Pointless thread, already discussed ad-nauseum in the kings forum. We all know Sather would never let it happen, and that Henrik wants to stay here.

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(Do you anticipate being done with free agency?)

``I think we're OK. One thing we're looking at is that if these contracts continue to go up, at some point people are going to get boxed in. Actually, you're already hearing the rumors about the Rangers. OK, you did really good, you got those two guys with those contracts, but you're hearing the rumblings out there that now they're vulnerable to an offer sheet on Lundqvist. I'm not saying that it's going to happen or that I'm going to do anything like that. The point is, this whole idea of keeping cap space doesn't really hit home yet. I think that's why you're seeing some of these contracts.''
There is only one team I could see doing this.

Colorado. Don't they need a goalie? And it would be revenge in a way from the Sakic thing ten years ago.

Otherwise, It won't happen. You still have to give up 3 1st round picks, right?

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3 1sts for Lundqvist? Seems worth it, especially with the solid drafting from the Avs in the later rounds.

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OMG I CANT SLEEP. EVERYBODY PANIC!!!!

Could this be the irony for the Rangers. That when they get their two centers they lose their goalie to a jealous inept gm who talked a big talk but lost out on Drury? Could so much incompetence be redeemed and transfered to Sather. I'm worried. I know this is typical Rangers. Damnit it man I knew it. I knew it. ALL IS LOST. WE ARE DOOMED. PINCH A FORK ON US.

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3 1sts for Lundqvist? Seems worth it, especially with the solid drafting from the Avs in the later rounds.
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The Avs wouldn't be making the picks for us, we'd make them ourselves. What would it matter if they have a good draft record?

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Just as Drury & Gomez both knew where the big stage is, so too does Lundqvist. The primary issue that no one is discussing is the player's acceptance to even entertain an offer sheet, much less except it. Having worked for a Swedish firm for many years and having traveled there often on business I can tell you first hand that many swedes love NY and think it is the center of the U.S. Lundqvist clearly understands this and we haven't even discussed the potential for winning a cup or two. Colorado is a nice state, but the King knows where is throne is located.

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not sure why people keep talking about this. they can make 100 offer sheets, doesn't much matter if the player doesn't want to leave.

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Just as Drury & Gomez both knew where the big stage is, so too does Lundqvist. The primary issue that no one is discussing is the player's acceptance to even entertain an offer sheet, much less except it. Having worked for a Swedish firm for many years and having traveled there often on business I can tell you first hand that many swedes love NY and think it is the center of the U.S. Lundqvist clearly understands this and we haven't even discussed the potential for winning a cup or two. Colorado is a nice state, but the King knows where is throne is located.
Its the capital of the world!



I would be really surpised if it happend. Lundqvist will make a ton of money here in NY.

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Yeah either way I'd sleep easier knowing Lundqvist is locked up

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Let's understand that any team has the right to extend the offer-sheet, the player still has to actually sign the offer-sheet for it to be valid.

I don't think that Henrik, at this time, has any desire to play anywhere else and after last season the Rangers have shown that they are intent on putting out the best team possible to give the team a shot to win it's only going to reinforce his desire to stay with the Rangers.

I doubt he signs any offersheet presented.

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The Avs wouldn't be making the picks for us, we'd make them ourselves. What would it matter if they have a good draft record?
you missed his point about the fact that the Av's draft well in the later rounds so giving up the 1st's won't hurt as much as one would think.

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Just as Drury & Gomez both knew where the big stage is, so too does Lundqvist. The primary issue that no one is discussing is the player's acceptance to even entertain an offer sheet, much less except it. Having worked for a Swedish firm for many years and having traveled there often on business I can tell you first hand that many swedes love NY and think it is the center of the U.S. Lundqvist clearly understands this and we haven't even discussed the potential for winning a cup or two. Colorado is a nice state, but the King knows where is throne is located.

what big stage?? a 2 rating for an NBC home playoff game??? Yankees on the back cover when Rangers win an overtime classic in the 2nd round?

This isn't 1994 anymore. The big stage is Toronto or Montreal. Not New York.

A fact that even as a Devils fan, irks me because hockey should be much bigger here than it is.

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Yeah either way I'd sleep easier knowing Lundqvist is locked up
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And I don't want to see Avery go.

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Is there a more overrated GM in the NHL than Dean Lombardi?He trades for Dan Cloutier and then gives him an extension.Signs Alyn McCauley as a free agent and then buys him out.Fires members of the scouting staff in the middle of the season claiming he wants to take on a more hands on approach and reaches for Thomas Hickey.Look at how many people work for Lombardi in LA.What do all of these people do?I think of the scene in Wall Street when Gordon Geeko is addressing the Teldar Paper shareholders.GG said this company has so many vice president's that I can't figure out what they all do

Lombardi made a comment in the LA Times in Monday's paper about free agency

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"There are three type of players when you deal with free agency," said Kings General Manager Dean Lombardi before the signing period began. "There's fillers, there are bridges and then there are builders."
http://www.latimes.com/sports/printe...ck=2&cset=true

What did he sign yesterday?Are they fillers,bridges or builders?

Michal Handzus-4/$16 million
Tom Preissing-4/$11 million
Kyle Calder-2/$5.5 million
Ladislav Nagy-1/$3.75 million

All of the brain power employed by the Kings and that is what they came up with

Lombardi talks like he has multiple rings.His team has never gone past the 2nd round of the playoffs.Lombardi irritated the NHL FO when he put lockout language in Owen Nolan's contract and is in a dispute with the NHL over the Joe Piskula contract

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Sather revealed during a conference call with reporters Sunday night that he had extended a long-term contract offer to Lundqvist last week. Meehan said yesterday that a counter-offer was made and that he and Sather would continue talking daily.

Meehan also said that Lundqvist would not file for salary arbitration by Thursday's deadline. The Rangers have until Friday to take Lundqvist to arbitration themselves. By then, the 25-year-old goaltender could well be inked to a new deal - his entry-level NHL contract having expired June 30, making him a restricted free agent
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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ho...ik_pact-1.html

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what big stage?? a 2 rating for an NBC home playoff game??? Yankees on the back cover when Rangers win an overtime classic in the 2nd round?

This isn't 1994 anymore. The big stage is Toronto or Montreal. Not New York.

A fact that even as a Devils fan, irks me because hockey should be much bigger here than it is.
I think he's talking from a general sense and not particularly in the Hockey POV. The Rangers aren't even the second priority in terms of sports team in New York for the casual public either (Knicks), but the issue here is the city itself.

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you missed his point about the fact that the Av's draft well in the later rounds so giving up the 1st's won't hurt as much as one would think.
Exactly.

On the other hand, I don't think Slats is stupid enough to risk loosing Henke. He knows what he is doing (well, I hope...).

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What did he sign yesterday?Are they fillers,bridges or builders?

mistakes?

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Henrik stays, it's not even up for debate.

A team swooping in with an offer sheet would only be looking to handcuff Sather and the Rangers' cap, but Slats would move anyone on this team to accomodate Lundqvist. In the extreme worst-case scenario even Jagr would be traded or Drury would be bought out to secure Henke.

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You guys are crazy, Lundqvist isnt going anywhere

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In the Daily News today, Henrik's agent revealed that contract talks have been going on since last week, and that he and Slats talk daily; Henrik will not file for arbitration; the King has no interest in going anywhere.

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you missed his point about the fact that the Av's draft well in the later rounds so giving up the 1st's won't hurt as much as one would think.
I thought he was saying it's worth it for the Rangers to accept the picks, in which case it wouldn't make sense. I guess he was talking from a Colorado point of view.

In that case he would be right, regardless of the Avs ability to draft. Lundqvist is worth 3 first rounders with his age and ability.

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Guys, with the room left under the cap PLUS the 10% summer time exception this is a non-issue. (Do people even look at our cap situation before making these assertions?) We can comfortably match anything well into the max compensation category. So we don't even have to get into the idea that Henrik might accept less to play here (which it seems clear is the case).

Someone mentioned worst-case scenario as buying out Drury. Uh-uh, worst case scenario is that you don't re-sign Shanny. Boom - you've got $8-9MM to pay Henrik (which is like $3MM more than people have been proposing in the "we'll poach him" threads) and still sign Avery, Prucha and Hossa. Heck, you can even pay him obscene money and still sign the others PLUS Shanny if you can find a taker for Malik/Mara/Cullen before the start of the regular season. Conversation over.

The more I think about our cap position, the more I gotta tip my hat to Glen...

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Henrik stays, it's not even up for debate.

A team swooping in with an offer sheet would only be looking to handcuff Sather and the Rangers' cap, but Slats would move anyone on this team to accomodate Lundqvist. In the extreme worst-case scenario even Jagr would be traded or Drury would be bought out to secure Henke.
lol a guy isn't gonna be bought out 2 days after signing.. letting shanny go would be all that would be necessary because we could then give henrik 8mil. which would then make him the highest paid goalie... but not gonna happen. he'll resign for 4-5m.

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