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07-07-2007, 04:45 PM
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Best of what's left-Yashin

He scores. he can play wing. He is talented. It may not be enough but a 2 yr deal at 3-4 , he is the best of what is left

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Stars shouldn't even consider him on a two year deal, only a one year deal, then it's even iffy.

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07-08-2007, 10:47 AM
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as long as he plays wing plays primarily on the pp and doesn't command any long term salary. I mean lindros didn't hurt us last year. I'd want a similar guarantee/flexability with yashin.

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as long as he plays wing plays primarily on the pp and doesn't command any long term salary. I mean lindros didn't hurt us last year. I'd want a similar guarantee/flexability with yashin.
+1. I'm on board with this ... sorta. If we're going to try to keep competing, we've gotta do something ... but man ... are we really that desperate?


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as long as he plays wing plays primarily on the pp and doesn't command any long term salary. I mean lindros didn't hurt us last year. I'd want a similar guarantee/flexability with yashin.
i think we can't say if Lindros hurt us, because we don't know how the replacement player could have been....Maybe Lessard would have scored 30 goals if he were up the whole season instead of carrying Lindros' body through the season

so i agree with frugs, pass

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07-08-2007, 02:34 PM
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Totally different decision-Eric was aknown health risk way past his prime-Yashin was cruxified for his contract and for not being aleader- neither of which is in play here

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Why not? What do we have to lose by signing him?

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07-08-2007, 03:27 PM
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Totally different decision-Eric was aknown health risk way past his prime-Yashin was cruxified for his contract and for not being aleader- neither of which is in play here
no, Yashin was cruxified for not caring what happens on the ice because he has his $$$

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07-08-2007, 03:56 PM
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and yet he still would have been our leading scorer

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no, Yashin was cruxified for not caring what happens on the ice because he has his $$$
Incentive based contract, perhaps?

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and yet he still would have been our leading scorer
we had 3 guys over his 50 points

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Incentive based contract, perhaps?
i don't think it's possible...performance bonuses are only allowed for players who are 35 or older or who spent at least 100(?) days on IR last season. Yashin played only 58 games, but i doubt he was that long on IR

and the other question...how much effort would u show in your job if u just got 2/3 of your salary for the next 4 years for free ?

i didn't trust Yashin while having a big contract and won't trust him now

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07-09-2007, 12:50 AM
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We Isles fans can tell you...we looked at him leaving this way.


Addition by Subtraction.


Plus you should be curious to know that his agent is expecting 4million a year.


Hello RSL...


Goodbye NHL .....is my guess where youll see him next year.

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07-09-2007, 09:49 AM
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As another Isles fan. I think Yashin will be a steal this offseason. Don't put him in a leadership role. He was crucified here because of his contract. He wasn't a lazy player, but he got accused of being one. He was a scapegoat for everything that went wrong with the Isles. Give him 3.5 and he will be a steal. He is a pt per game player with one of the best shots in the league. A lot of Isles fans just jumped on the bandwagon against him. He was playing like an MVP early last season and then he took a cheap knee on knee in Nov and didn't come back from that. Many of Jason Blake's goals were because of how well Yashin was playing(Blake has even said so.) Take the pressure off of him and he will be a STEAL.

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As another Isles fan. I think Yashin will be a steal this offseason. Don't put him in a leadership role. He was crucified here because of his contract. He wasn't a lazy player, but he got accused of being one. He was a scapegoat for everything that went wrong with the Isles. Give him 3.5 and he will be a steal. He is a pt per game player with one of the best shots in the league. A lot of Isles fans just jumped on the bandwagon against him. He was playing like an MVP early last season and then he took a cheap knee on knee in Nov and didn't come back from that. Many of Jason Blake's goals were because of how well Yashin was playing(Blake has even said so.) Take the pressure off of him and he will be a STEAL.
You're the first Islanders fan to say that here. Even the normally even-keeled ones are saying the opposite. But, you've managed to pique my interest a bit.

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07-09-2007, 02:02 PM
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If you look int he yashin thread i actually said Dallas the perfect place for him as long as they use him as 2nd line/3rd line and PP guy but not go to guy. He is a good secondary scoring type guy who will get you 65P+ but not the guy you want your team to rely on. I think Dallas has a bunch of guys who can compliment Yashin well(read that cover his flaws).

From the 6 year on the island i found Yashin seems to play best with fast wingers or guys who will go into the corners and do the dirty work, and i think Dallas has a team of players like that.

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If you look int he yashin thread i actually said Dallas the perfect place for him as long as they use him as 2nd line/3rd line and PP guy but not go to guy. He is a good secondary scoring type guy who will get you 65P+ but not the guy you want your team to rely on. I think Dallas has a bunch of guys who can compliment Yashin well(read that cover his flaws).

From the 6 year on the island i found Yashin seems to play best with fast wingers or guys who will go into the corners and do the dirty work, and i think Dallas has a team of players like that.
See, on Dallas, a 65+ point player is definitely someone we have to rely on, because only Modano and Morrow are capable of reaching those numbers as forwards, when healthy.

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The Islanders tried Yashin on the wing. It didn't go well. Just putting it out there.

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07-09-2007, 03:58 PM
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Sucks how Armstrong just stands on the side while all the good players get signed....... No Drury...... No Gomez......... No Blake...... No Zubrus........



Toby Peterson, Brad Winchester... who?


Scoring is needed and what is left that can score?
Jeff Oneill would have been perfect, 4 seasons ago.
Nils Ekman 6 goals last season very scary.
Mike Jonhson aint a scorer.
Tony Amonte havent scored over 25 goals since 2001

Selanne aint gonna happen, Shanahan aint gonna happen.

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Sucks how Armstrong just stands on the side while all the good players get signed....... No Drury...... No Gomez......... No Blake...... No Zubrus........
sucks ?
i'm very happy he didn't sign anyone of these for the terms they got

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07-09-2007, 07:11 PM
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I guess your happy with not scoring goals.

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I'd imagine Walzy is happy we didn't pick up any albatross contracts.
I think picking up some of the recent ufa's would have been horrible, especially the ones we were in the running in for. Could we get any older with Kozlov or Blake, no thanks, and Kariya, we don't need another Arnott come playoff time.
Any who, I hope Eriksson and Jokinen really start to play well, I'd gladly welcome the opportunity for our young guys to step up, rather than another ****** ufa signing.

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07-10-2007, 12:08 AM
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Doug Armstrong's last stand

This team is ancient. In their minds they are trying to not get older and stay under the cap. They never had any intention of making any big free agent splash. They could be working on a deal, but it's not likely. They did screw up with Nagy though. They could have made some attempt to keep a guy that cost them a #1 draft pick at least. Get ready to either skip the playoffs all together or lose in the 1st round again. The truth is they should have let Modano go last year. They are trying to hold on too long to the remainder of that cup team. I like Zubov, but he is getting up there in age too.
Tom Hicks is all about the $$$. He doesn't care about the team or how's it run as long as he sees playoff dollars. The Stars have no scorers. They have a bunch of guys. That's it. Truth hurts. Move on. Other teams got better and the Stars did nothing. The Stars management blame it on the cap. The same cap Tom Hicks was willing to close down a season for. Tom Hicks was the front of the line when it came to getting that cap added on. Tom Hicks spent millions on a soccer team. Stars fans should be irate at that. He cares more about a team in England than he does about you guys in Dallas.
My guess is, if the Stars don't make the playoffs it won't be Tom Hicks who pays. It will be Doug Armstrong and Dave Tippett. Stars fans might enjoy that, but it is the owner who signs the checks. Be careful what you wish for. I'd be happy if they just had a #1 pick next year when they are drafting in the top 10.

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I smell breaktrough year for Louie Eriksson if he gets to play on top line.

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I guess your happy with not scoring goals.
so i should be happy if we have a guy who could chip in ~20 goals next season but brings also an up****ed salary/cap hit structure for the half decade ?


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Any who, I hope Eriksson and Jokinen really start to play well, I'd gladly welcome the opportunity for our young guys to step up, rather than another ****** ufa signing.
the problem is it looks like they won't use many of the young ones...we already had enough forwards and now we've 2 more with one-way contracts. Guess there we won't see a Lessard or Conner that much.
btw, Mike Heika thinks Miettinen and Jokinen will/could be moved

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My guess would be Miettinen, Jokinen and maybe Hagman (although I would advise against trading Hagman). One e-mailer suggested Ott, but my guess is that he needs to center these tough guy wingers on the fourth line. I would say Lundqvist is safe, but I would have sworn Jamie Langenbrunner was safe some years back. Sometimes, when trade talk starts (and believe me, it has started with the Stars), names get thrown in that you don't want to trade. Let's hope they keep Lundqvist...unless, of course, they get something really good in return.

Posted by: Mike Heika | July 9, 2007 04:41 PM


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