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07-10-2007, 09:27 AM
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Zipay: One player wants to be moved

From http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/hockey/rangers/blog/

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I sense a trade coming at some point though.

At least one player has told friends he wouldn't mind being moved. That's all I can pass along at this point because I haven't got it confirmed----or whether the player has since changed his stance.
I wonder what that is all about? Normally - it wouldn't matter if a player "wants to be moved." I don't want to start a frenzy - but there is only one person on the team which can have an opinion like that and it would kind of need to be heeded. And I don't think that player wants to leave an improved team. On the other hand - perhaps Cullen, who is now definitely 3rd fiddle and even lost some PK and PP time might want to move? I suppose his opinion is relevant since he signed as a free agent last year and it would diminsh our reputation among players if we sign FAs to long term deals and then trade them a year later.

As much as I hate to suddenly give up having 4 really really solid centers - I also think that we'd be better off keeping as many experienced bodies as possible for our defense than having a super third line center who will get limited PK or PP time. Plus it could open a forward space for youth....

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07-10-2007, 09:32 AM
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Not flaming Zippy here but isn’t he still a journalist, even when he blogs for Newsday?

Just seems pretty gossipy to me. I’ll care when he can confirm and print in the paper and even then I’ll wait for a quote.

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I doubt Cullen would want to be moved, or any player on the Rangers for that matter.

The first guy that came to mind was Straka because of his relationship with Nylander and his disappointment that he left.

But i can't see how anyone would want to leave this team, even if they are in their walk year and they are afraid they arent going to be paid next year because of the cap situation. But i don't know why someone would want to leave a contender.

Zipay blogging something like this is really opening thing up to interpretation, not to mention his email box which will be flooded with questions.

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07-10-2007, 09:35 AM
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Please be Malik....

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Maybe they don't like playing for Renney

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Irresponsible imo... Include a name or don't bother with it.

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Please be Malik....
Thats what i'm hoping. Maybe he's tired of the boos and wants to be moved.

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If there is any truth to it, I believe it's Matt Cullen. To me he's the most tradable asset at this point, and for the Rangers trading Cullen would free up the cap space to solidify the rest of the unsigned players. Plus, there is still Blair Betts, and possibly Brandon Dubinsky, or even Immonen to fill the void that a Cullen departure leaves empty. If the Rangers are indeed still in the Souray chase, Cullens salary could get them in striking distance. I guess the big question is what is more important to the 07/08 Rangers. Is solid 3rd line center with speed and some offensive instincts more important than a PP specialist with a mean streak? Is the team better off with the no-name defense returning, and Cullen on the roster, or is there room to advance a promising Hartford player into the mix for a 3rd or 4th line center?

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07-10-2007, 09:57 AM
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Maybe Pock, could you blame him!!!

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Please GOD let it be Malik!

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If there is any truth to it, I believe it's Matt Cullen. To me he's the most tradable asset at this point, and for the Rangers trading Cullen would free up the cap space to solidify the rest of the unsigned players. Plus, there is still Blair Betts, and possibly Brandon Dubinsky, or even Immonen to fill the void that a Cullen departure leaves empty. If the Rangers are indeed still in the Souray chase, Cullens salary could get them in striking distance. I guess the big question is what is more important to the 07/08 Rangers. Is solid 3rd line center with speed and some offensive instincts more important than a PP specialist with a mean streak? Is the team better off with the no-name defense returning, and Cullen on the roster, or is there room to advance a promising Hartford player into the mix for a 3rd or 4th line center?
Yeah, but why would CULLEN want to leave?

Hes got his third line spot. No one is really challenging him for it. He gets paid. He does a lot of good things in the community. He likes it here.

You are mentioning that hes the most tradable asset for the Rangers and that might be so, but if what Zip is saying is true I dont think its Cullen cause i dont think HE wants to leave.

Malik? Possibly.

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Maybe Pock, could you blame him!!!
Good one too.

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Good one too.
I could see why Pock would want to leave, but if thats the case, why would he have just re-signed with the Rangers? He was slated to be a UFA if he didn't re-sign, wasn't he?

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Top 3 choices IMO:


1) Pock - He's never going to get playing time with the Rangers now that Struds is signed in for the 7th defenseman.
2) Immonen - He's pretty much done and I don't think he likes playing for Renney since Renney doesn't like how he plays.
3) Malik - Just because.

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My guesses would be Mara or Hossa.

Most of the vets here have signed via free agency, so they have chosen to be here, or have stated how much they love NY. Most of the young guys just want to be in the NHL and don't particularly care which team they play for.

Mara was traded here. He had a nice run with us, but I don't know if he formed any sort of connection with NY. He may want to go to a team where he's not considered a 3rd pairing/2nd PP unit d-man.

Hossa, while a young player, may see the writing on the wall and realize that he's not going to get a chance to prove himself here. He may want to go to a team that's more willing to give him a top 6 spot.

There's an outside chance that the booing has gotten to Malik and he wants to start fresh, but he's held in high regard by the players and the staff, so I doubt it's him.

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I think it has to be a forward.


If it was Immonen or Pock, I don't think it would be particularly newsworthy.

I can't see what Malik or Mara would want out for.

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If it's true, I could see it being Cullen. He does have what 3 years left on his deal, I believe? One of his best friends (Ward) got into an argument with Jagr last year and was shipped out. He was coming off a career year, winning the stanley cup, and probably was close to alot of his teammates in Carolina. He jumped ship for the money and now could be regretting his decision. Possibly he isn't thrilled with his lack of power play time (on the point or up front), or maybe he thought he would win the second line center job when he originally signed here? Now that they signed Gomez/Drury maybe he isn't looking forward to being stuck on the third line. It's all just speculation, but if I had to take a guess, Cullen would be my choice.

Straka is only on a one year deal, so I would have a hard time believing it was him. Even if he was upset that Nylander won't be back, his best friend is still here (Jagr).

Malik, even though he might get booed fairly often, seems to fit in with the Roszival, Jagr, etc.

Immonen, I dont' think he qualifies because he wasn't technically a full time Ranger (Wolfpack). Plus hasn't he pretty much already told the team he is playing in Finland next year?

Possibly Mara? He was traded here late in the season and who knows how well he fit in with his new teammates?

Hossa is another possibility. Between arbitration and the fact he will most likely be moved back down to the fourth line again.


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I think like Kodiak that it may be Mara. He signed UFA with Boston prior to last season to play more or less for his home town team and was traded to us towards the end of the season. Cullen chose to come here and has given no evidence of not being happy here. Straka also has stated in the past that he wouldn't play anywhere but NYC. Most of the players on our current team either came up through the system or chose to come here or once they came here chose again to stay.

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The first guy that came to mind was Straka because of his relationship with Nylander and his disappointment that he left.
I don't think so...sure Straka was disappointed, but I have yet to see anything that says it was anything other than professional disappointment to see a guy that played well for the team leave. The Rangers replaced him with someone else who is very good, and indeed, it's been said that Straka is happy with the moves the Rangers made.

No, I'd look towards any players who might feel like they're not getting enough icetime for one reason or the other. It's kind of a tough one, but honestly, I'm thinking Hossa.

The Rangers seem to be ignoring him for the moment, he elected for arbitration, and it wouldn't be out of this world to think that he feels he deserves top line icetime after doing ok with Jagr for a week or so.

Just guessing really. He might feel like he's being squeezed out (never really was "in" to begin with).

Maybe someone on D...Mara? Maybe he wasn't terribly thrilled with how he was used and wants more bigtime PP minutes? Maybe he's just not a huge fan of NY?

Edit: Don't see why Cullen would really be regretting coming to NY unless it's the usual reasons of not fitting in with the city, or just not feeling quite part of the team. Yeah he left a cup contender to join the Rangers, but it honestly looks like a pretty good move. His new team made the playoffs, his old one crashed and burned, and he's making bank. He was kind of a 2nd/3rd line tweener in Carolina, and that's what he ended up as on the Rangers. He had his chances to lock down the 2nd line spot, so I feel like it'd be tough to justify being upset about something like that.

Dunno, is possible, but eh...not quite feeling it

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I think like Kodiak that it may be Mara. He signed UFA with Boston prior to last season to play more or less for his home town team and was traded to us towards the end of the season. Cullen chose to come here and has given no evidence of not being happy here. Straka also has stated in the past that he wouldn't play anywhere but NYC. Most of the players on our current team either came up through the system or chose to come here or once they came here chose again to stay.
I thought Mara was traded to Boston in the Boyton trade. So I don't believe he signed as a UFA.

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I'm thinking Pock.. or Mara-- just because he hasn't been around here enough to get a read on how he likes it here.
Maybe Cullen, but I would be shocked if any players expect Pock really wanted out.

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I don't think so...sure Straka was disappointed,

It's kind of a tough one, but honestly, I'm thinking Hossa.

Maybe someone on D...Mara?

Edit: Don't see why Cullen
I agree, just a gut thought on Straka.

Hossa? Maybe... but arbitration could settle that, if its too high for the rangers theyll walk which could be what Hossa wants since hes really in no position to go to arbitration if you think about it. You could be on the dot with Hossa.

But according to Zipay - he says "at least one player has told friends he wouldn't mind being moved" Is Hossa even in New York? Who are these friends and how would Zip know them? Thats the real question.

Mara, i dont know.


I envisioned a 10 page thread by 5pm today because of this Zip comment.
With nothing really going on the past few days - its gonna be speculation city in here.

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It can't be Cullen. Don't see it from him. He knows he's a 3rd line center and why would he be against that when he actually plays better and makes more of an impact being it?

I think it's Hossa or Pock here. A smaller guy that knows he's seeing his chances and minutes being cut.

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I could see why Pock would want to leave, but if thats the case, why would he have just re-signed with the Rangers? He was slated to be a UFA if he didn't re-sign, wasn't he?
I thought Pock too, but you're right, he wouldn't have to ASK to be traded if he didn't just re-sign.

The only person who was effectively rendered useless to the organization 2 weeks ago is Immonen. I just can't think who else would have a reason to want out.

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