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07-15-2007, 12:22 PM
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Brooks-Rozsival is a $6 million defenseman

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If Roman Hamrlik was able to get three years at $5.5 million from Montreal this summer and Rafalski was able to get $30 million over five years from the Red Wings, then first-pair defenseman Michal Rozsival will command at least $6 million per on a long-term deal as an impending unrestricted free agent next summer, and the Rangers know it.

This means the 2008-09 Blueshirts are likely to have approximately $31 million tied up in five players - Jaromir Jagr, Chris Drury, Henrik Lundqvist, Gomez and Rozsival - and this is just another reason all the talk of clearing salary-cap space to sign one-dimensional defenseman Sheldon Souray was so sillyl
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07152007...oks.htm?page=0

$6 million?

Rozsival has averaged 35 points the last two seasons playing 95% of the time with Jaromir Jagr's line.He has been a solid player for the Rangers the last couple of seasons but $6 million per????????????

Sami Salo is a comparable to Rozsival and he agreed to a 4/$14 million extension with Van last winter.Chris Phillips also got 4/$14 million.Eric Brewer got 4/$17 million

Just because Bob Gainey overpaid Hamrlik doesn't mean the Rangers should overpay Rozsival who has the same agent as Hamrlik-Rich Winter

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07-15-2007, 12:26 PM
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Sami Salo is a comparable to Rozsival and he agreed to a 4/$14 million extension with Van last winter.Chris Phillips also got 4/$14 million.Eric Brewer got 4/$17 million

Just because Bob Gainey overpaid Hamrlik doesn't mean the Rangers should overpay Rozsival who has the same agent as Hamrlik-Rich Winter
Salo and Phillips clearly took home town discounts. As UFA's Salo likely would've been looking at offers of $5M+. It's all a matter of whether or not Rozsival will want to test the open market or not. If he does, and has a big season next year, it wouldn't be surprising at all if he was getting offers around $5M per. $6M is probably a bit steep, but you never know.

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Larry's a little aggressive on the dollars but he's dead on by pointing out Rozsival's increasing value. Remember, the cap keeps going up and the market resets each year. And there's nothing like being a truly free agent. Best deal the Rangers can make is to extend him now ($4MM+/4 years?) if they can get it done, rather than waitr for next summer.

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Eh, this is what Brooks says, not Rosi. Next year, we'll see what Rosi says. 'till then, meh at Brooks' opinion.

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Market trends aside, I find it ridiculous that Brooks would chastise Lundqvist earlier in the week for taking 4.2 M to the supposed detriment of the team and then even plant a seed claiming that Rozsival will get 6 M

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No way he's worth that much. Honestly if he costs even $4 million per year on a long term deal I'd let him walk. We have plenty of young defenseman, including Sanguinetti who can replace Roszival as the PP QB.

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To early for all that next year talk.

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The way Roszival played in the PO's he defenitly is a 6m D IMO.

He performed at the level he did, without the safety net as Kubina had in Tampa, McCabe got in Toronto, Souray had in Montreal among others.

Roszival had very little help and he made high caliber defensive plays shift after shift. Allot of D's was really victimaized in that PO, Roszival only got better and better.

If he can net 40-50 pts this season and play as well in the PO's there will be plenty if offers for him on July 1st. I don't think thats all that unlikely...

We saw what Nyls got, for 4 years...

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Larry's a little aggressive on the dollars but he's dead on by pointing out Rozsival's increasing value. Remember, the cap keeps going up and the market resets each year. And there's nothing like being a truly free agent. Best deal the Rangers can make is to extend him now ($4MM+/4 years?) if they can get it done, rather than waitr for next summer.
The cap keeps going up but the Rangers could potentially have $3 million in bonuses on their 2008-09 cap from the 07-08 season-Shanahan $2.8 million and Girardi $200,000.The increase would go to the bonuses

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if roszival asked for that much money i would trade/let him go cuz he aint worth that much

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Some of us have predicted his rising value since the end of last season...

Remember the debate that was sparked about his contract last season? How it was a foregone conclussion he was going to block a yute?

With the way defensemen are overpaid Rozsival could get 5 to 6 million as a free agent..

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I also think we have to be careful expecting guys like Nyls and Roszival to give a hometown discount.

Thoose guys haven't made all that much money before comming here.

Rozsival might have probably made less then 6m so far in his career.

Its not the same thing as when someone like Teemu Sellane or Martin Brodeur with 30-40 m on the bank takes less money.

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I also think we have to be careful expecting guys like Nyls and Roszival to give a hometown discount.

Thoose guys haven't made all that much money before comming here.

Rozsival might have probably made less then 6m so far in his career.

Its not the same thing as when someone like Teemu Sellane or Martin Brodeur with 30-40 m on the bank takes less money.
add Captain Shanny to that list...he took a nice raise to return...

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His knee issue is another concern.Had a torn ACL during the 2003-04 season.Had knee surgery last September which forced him to miss most of training camp.Missed a couple of games during the season with a knee sprain.Rozsival hurt his knee again in the Buffalo series

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Is it prudent for the Rangers to tie up over 50% of the cap in five players-Jagr,Lundqvist,Gomez,Drury and Roszival?

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Its articles like this that point to how little Brooks actually knows about the NHL! Yes Roszival may wind up getting a contract around that amount...but he is not worth 6 mil to the Rangers, nor will he ever be! Its similar to why I'm upset about Gomez's contract....he's truly not worth the 7 mil a season....but in this market his worth went way up! In reality....he's probably about a 4-5 million dollar player. Rozy probably is about a 4 mila year player when his time comes. Somewhere along the way....the line was blurred between elite players who SHOULD get paid because being on a team directly affects ticket sales....and solid players who are complimentary and do not put ***** in the seats. Its a big problem...but one that GMs and Ownership created by swallowing the kool aid the agents fed them!

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Ugh I don't want to pay him more then $4 mil.

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i would let him walk. hes a nice player, but no way is he worth 6 mil per.

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From 2 to 6 million? No thanks...

Unless he improves twofold next season there is no way he is worth that much

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Is it prudent for the Rangers to tie up over 50% of the cap in five players-Jagr,Lundqvist,Gomez,Drury and Roszival?
With both Drury and Gomez here we should look to dump one of them before Rozsival.

Replacing MR for less then 6m would be really really hard.

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From 2 to 6 million? No thanks...

Unless he improves twofold next season there is no way he is worth that much
What he is "worth" and what we have to pay to keep him here, thats two completly separated issues.

We can talk about dumping Cullen and Mara, though how do we replace Rozsival?

Its one thing to shine on a 2nd pairing, or on a team where you got allot of backup or a great D-partner.

Though Rozsival loggs 25-30 minutes for us playing next to Malik, and the last two seasons with JJ on his side and Nyls as his center.

We can't replace that with a Dick Tärnström, Aaron Ward or Tom Pressinger.

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The Rozsival situation is a typical sour apple thing, we can't do much other then to pay him what he wants, atleast not in my perspective.

We could probably have signed him to a 5 year 20m deal last season, when we had a ton of cap space left.

Though Slats didn't do that, he didn't evaluete Rozsival properly, and that will now cost us.

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With both Drury and Gomez here we should look to dump one of them before Rozsival.

Replacing MR for less then 6m would be really really hard.
No way they commit that type of money to a defenseman of Roszivals ability! The farm is chock full of defensive prospects....if Roszy is commanding 6 mil when the time comes......gotta let him walk. We overpaid this year for a position which the organization is lacking in the system....defense is a totally different ballgame. On defense they cut the excessive fat and move on....dealing with the rookie mistakes and all...but also growing serviceable and solid youth into NHL caliber players.

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No way they commit that type of money to a defenseman of Roszivals ability! The farm is chock full of defensive prospects....if Roszy is commanding 6 mil when the time comes......gotta let him walk. We overpaid this year for a position which the organization is lacking in the system....defense is a totally different ballgame. On defense they cut the excessive fat and move on....dealing with the rookie mistakes and all...but also growing serviceable and solid youth into NHL caliber players.
We are supposed to go into the 08-09 season with Malik-Mara as our top pairing?

If Slats starts calling Rozi with 5m offers around january he ought to be able to get him to stay.

If not, we are in trouble. There is no way we could replace Rozsival from within the next 2 years.

Rozsival is not excessive fat, thats for sure.

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This is just a joke. Just because Montreal's organization has screwed up so much and then had to overpay for Hamrlik, thinking it will ease the pain for its fans, doesnt mean roszival is all the sudden worth $6 million.

Rafalski has been a solid defenseman his whole career, if anything he deserved that money and contract. Rozsival is no Rafalski.

And if anything the Rangers let him walk like they did with Nylander and replace him through FA. If they cant you have 3 potential defensemen to replace him in the system with the likes of Liffiton, Baranka, and Sanguinetti (very big possibility for the 08-09 season), looking ready.

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