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07-23-2007, 07:33 PM
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Wonder what would have happened if we traded Cechmanek and kept Booch that summer, I remember being pretty upset about it.
i wasnt, we got Handzus and Esche....well Esche sucks now, but he did give us a shot at the cup in 2004

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07-23-2007, 09:27 PM
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You know, as bad as his mental game might be, he might just end up being a great goaltending coach. His technical game was pretty flawless. I think having him around only benefits the younger goalies coming through our system. Even though he had an off year, I still have high expectations of Martin Houle and Boosh might be just the guy to help him get over the hump.

I'm really liking how this off season has turned out. The one thing that really sticks out about how they're doing things is that they're bringing in solid characters into the fold. Yes, it's nice to have talent and ability, but you need to back it up with character.

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07-24-2007, 12:45 AM
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You gotta wonder where this leaves Houle and Beauchemin? Munroe will probably be the co-starter....
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Is Munroe even signed? I know he is on the Phantom's roster page but is he on an AHL or NHL contract?

I would think that Houle is a spot above him on the depth chart and that him and Boucher will split the AHL time. With Beauchemin doing duty in the ECHL. As for Munroe if he is signed, I have no idea.
Munroe was qualified, but isn't signed so far (at least not announced). If Munroe signs we will have seven signed goalies in the organisation: Biron, Niittymäki (NHL), Munroe, Houle, Boucher (AHL), Duchesne and Beauchemin (ECHL).

I think Boucher gets a role similar to Neil Little's than he was with the Phantoms, playing some games while being a mentor/teacher for the younger goalies.

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07-24-2007, 07:41 AM
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You gotta wonder where this leaves Houle and Beauchemin? Munroe will probably be the co-starter....
They are no that good and will marginal ahl players IMO.

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07-24-2007, 08:16 AM
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does boucher thus start with the phantoms? i really like him and think he's talented enough to take the #1 spot, but i also dont want to hamper any of our other goalies. is he just the veteran backup?

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07-24-2007, 08:25 AM
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You gotta wonder where this leaves Houle and Beauchemin? Munroe will probably be the co-starter....
The fact that Beauchemin was loaned out to another ECHL team pretty much says it all.

Has Munroe signed? If not, the tandem will be Houle and Boucher.

As for Boucher, at least he won't need to get a new mask.

Honestly I'm surprised he didn't go to Europe. The money probably would have been a lot better and the schedule is much easier.

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07-24-2007, 08:39 AM
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I think Boucher gets a role similar to Neil Little's than he was with the Phantoms, playing some games while being a mentor/teacher for the younger goalies.
I believe Little is even the goalie coach so it'll be a nice reunion. I would assume Munroe will be the regular as well.

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I believe Little is even the goalie coach so it'll be a nice reunion. I would assume Munroe will be the regular as well.
Is Little the goalie coach? I thought he was brought back to be an assistant on the bench.

On that note, it wouldn't shock me in the least if he became the Phantoms head coach in the near future.

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07-24-2007, 09:07 AM
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Ok, a question for the Capologists, if the Flyers were to buy out his AHL contract, and sign him to an NHL one, would the AHL buyout count against the cap?

I'm thinking he might have been signed to eventually be the backup to Biron, meaning Niitty is on his way out.

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07-24-2007, 09:13 AM
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Ok, a question for the Capologists, if the Flyers were to buy out his AHL contract, and sign him to an NHL one, would the AHL buyout count against the cap?

I'm thinking he might have been signed to eventually be the backup to Biron, meaning Niitty is on his way out.
First he would have to clear waivers to move from the AHL to NHL.

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i wasnt, we got Handzus and Esche....well Esche sucks now, but he did give us a shot at the cup in 2004
Yeah but we probably could have gotten more for Cechmanek and I think if Booch had gotten the right coaching, he could have turned out to be a really solid goalie in this league. His problem was talent, it was mental.

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Is Little the goalie coach? I thought he was brought back to be an assistant on the bench.

On that note, it wouldn't shock me in the least if he became the Phantoms head coach in the near future.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/...ssistants.html
http://flyers.nhl.com/team/app?artic...e&service=page

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You know, as bad as his mental game might be, he might just end up being a great goaltending coach. His technical game was pretty flawless. I think having him around only benefits the younger goalies coming through our system. Even though he had an off year, I still have high expectations of Martin Houle and Boosh might be just the guy to help him get over the hump.

I'm really liking how this off season has turned out. The one thing that really sticks out about how they're doing things is that they're bringing in solid characters into the fold. Yes, it's nice to have talent and ability, but you need to back it up with character.
His meltdown after they made him the starter was pretty special to watch... as soon as he had a bit of pressure *poof* went his game.

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Anyone have guesses where Esche will play? Please keep the answers something above the K-Mart Assistant Managers League -- as a backup. There are still some netmiders out there: Auld, Belfour, Cujo.

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Anyone have guesses where Esche will play? Please keep the answers something above the K-Mart Assistant Managers League -- as a backup. There are still some netmiders out there: Auld, Belfour, Cujo.
It wouldn't shock me if he ended up in Europe. He'd be a starter and would probably make better money there than he would as an NHL backup (assuming he could even get an NHL backup job).

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Here is what I have for goalies by team. I'm sure it is an imperfect list so make any necessary corrections:

Philadelphia: Biron, Niittymaki, Boucher
Pittsburgh: Fleury, Conklin, Sabourin
New Jersey: Brodeur, Weekes
NY Rangers: Lundqvist, Valiquette, Montoya
NY Islanders: DiPietro, Dubielwicz, Joey McDonald

Atlanta: Lehtonen, Hedberg, Garnett
Carolina: Ward, Grahame, Leighton
Florida: Vokoun, Craig Anderson
Tampa Bay: Denis, Holmqvist, Ramo
Washington: Kolzig, Brent Johnson

Boston: Fernandez, Thomas
Buffalo: Miller, Thibeault
Montreal: Halak, Huet
Ottawa: Emery, Gerber
Toronto: Toskala, Raycroft, Clemmensen

Columbus: Leclaire, Norrena
Chicago: Khabibulin, Lalime, Flaherty
Detroit: Hasek, Osgood, Howard, Berkhoel
Nashville: Mason, Dan Ellis, P. Rinne
St. Louis: Legace, Schwarz, Bacashihua, Toivonen

Minnesota: Backstrom, Harding, Schaefer
Vancouver: Luongo, Sanford
Edmonton: Roloson, M, Garon
Calgary: Kiprusoff, Krahn
Colorado: Theodore, Budaj

Phoenix: Tellqvist, Aebischer, Leneveu
Los Angeles: Labarbera, Cloutier
San Jose: Nabokov, Greiss
Anaheim: Giguere, Bryzgalov
Dallas: Turco, Smith


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It wouldn't shock me if he ended up in Europe. He'd be a starter and would probably make better money there than he would as an NHL backup (assuming he could even get an NHL backup job).
He'll get an NHL backup job if he wants it. I dunno, but Esche still probably feels he should be a #1 goalie however.

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07-25-2007, 09:47 AM
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Booch should be a great veteran for the younger players on the Phantoms, and not just the goalies, but the whole team.


Re: Esche. If I'm the GM of Columbus, or Colorado, Silent Bob would be worth a look. Also St. Louis is apparently trying to corner the market on goalies.

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You know, as bad as his mental game might be, he might just end up being a great goaltending coach. His technical game was pretty flawless. I think having him around only benefits the younger goalies coming through our system. Even though he had an off year, I still have high expectations of Martin Houle and Boosh might be just the guy to help him get over the hump.

I'm really liking how this off season has turned out. The one thing that really sticks out about how they're doing things is that they're bringing in solid characters into the fold. Yes, it's nice to have talent and ability, but you need to back it up with character.
Craig Billington is/was a goaltending coach. I also believe he ran a clinic and well he didnt exactly have a great career. So there is no reason at all why Boucher couldnt be a goaltending coach.

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Boooooooooooooooosh
I second that!!! Booooooosh!

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I second that!!! Booooooosh!
Yep, can't wait until all 2000 people in the Spectrum start that chant after every mediocre save.

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Anyone got video of when he got the puck lodged in his mask?

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I think that Luongo's backup is really a mob informant and he's in witness protection. What better obscurity is there?

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I admit it's kind of nice to have him back but he's really been absolutely terrible the last 2 years. No way he's the #1.

2006
Phoenix - 11 GP, 3.87 GAA, .877 S%
Calgary - 3 GP, 4.94 GAA, .854 S%

2007
Chicago - 15 GP, 3.27 GAA, .884 S%
Columbus - 3 GP, 3.79 GAA, .866 S%

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I admit it's kind of nice to have him back but he's really been absolutely terrible the last 2 years. No way he's the #1.
I'd like to think that at the AHL level that he is better than Houle and/or Munroe. If he isn't, there wasn't much reason to bring him back.

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