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01-02-2004, 10:50 AM
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Worst Trade?

I was just wondering what you guys thought was the worst trade...like say that trade that happened between the Pittsburgh Penguins and the Vancouver Canucks

Markus Naslund for Denis Pederson or something like that..

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I was just wondering what you guys thought was the worst trade...like say that trade that happened between the Pittsburgh Penguins and the Vancouver Canucks

Markus Naslund for Denis Pederson or something like that..
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NO trade was worse than some of the deals Reggie Houle pulled in his brief-but-disastrous tenure as Habs GM. Kovalenko, Rucinsky, and Thibault for Roy and Keane. Turgeon for Corson. Wow, bad, but for obvious reasons I'm very grateful the Roy trade took place.

As for other bad deals? One of the worst my Avs ever did was trading Radim Vrbata for Bates Battaglia, though Lacroix made up for that one by parlaying Bates for Konowalchuk. Another bad one was trading then-prospect Mark Parrish for Tom Fitzgerald, who up and went to the Preds right after helping us lose in the first round to Edmonton.

But I think the absolute worst trade in recent memory was when Mike Milbury sent Roberto Luongo and Olli Jokinen to the Panthers for Oleg Kvasha and Mark Parrish. He then turned around and drafted DiPietro 1st overall, passing up on both Dany Heatley AND Marian Gaborik.

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barry pederson for cam neely and 1st rounder (glen wesley)

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But I think the absolute worst trade in recent memory was when Mike Milbury sent Roberto Luongo and Olli Jokinen to the Panthers for Oleg Kvasha and Mark Parrish. He then turned around and drafted DiPietro 1st overall, passing up on both Dany Heatley AND Marian Gaborik.
Jokinen playing with Heatley and Luongo in the nets. Isles would be a very, very strong team! How does Mike Milbury have a job?!

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Tom Poti for Mike York. Ever hated it and still do.

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Ok maybe "butchered" wasn't strong enough of a word. Thanks for spelling though!

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NO trade was worse than some of the deals Reggie Houle pulled in his brief-but-disastrous tenure as Habs GM. Kovalenko, Rucinsky, and Thibault for Roy and Keane. Turgeon for Corson. Wow, bad, but for obvious reasons I'm very grateful the Roy trade took place.

Actually it was turgeon and conroy , for corson and baron.

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Definately the Eric Lindros trade!

Right now colorado would not even think of trading Forsberg to Philly for just lindros!

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NO trade was worse than some of the deals Reggie Houle pulled in his brief-but-disastrous tenure as Habs GM. Kovalenko, Rucinsky, and Thibault for Roy and Keane. Turgeon for Corson. Wow, bad, but for obvious reasons I'm very grateful the Roy trade took place.
why does everyone always assume great deals can be made when there are public "trade me" disputes?

NEW FLASH: public trade demands bring diminished returns. the most basic reason for this is that all GM's know you have to move the disgruntled player. the exceptions are few - mike danton (NJ) comes to mind - and the lindros trade that is the extreme exception to well, almost every rule imaginable.

but mike comrie, patrick roy, pavel bure, marc savard, doug gilmour (less a demand than a personal _must_ trade situation), and a few i can't think of - all saw diminished returns in the views of fans and media. when will people figure this out? it continues to astonish me.

as for bad trades that stick out for me, besides anything that mike milbury has done:

- janne niniimaa for luke richardson (mr. clarke, when slats calls you, HANG UP THE PHONE!)
- 1st, 2nd, 3rd pick + maxime oullette (sp?) for 25 games of adam oates
- boris mironov and dean mcammond for christian laflamme, dan cleary, chad kilger and some other guy (basically three regular NHL'ers for one bad one and one band-aid one)
- bryan mccabe for alexander karpovtsev (ouch!)

well, anything made by pulford/smith or bobby clarke maybe should be qualified as out of the discussion!

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the olsson trade was brutal, but i think the oates for 1st 2nd 3rd and oulette was worse. clarke knew what he was getting in oates, at least it could be argued the demitra trade was poor judgement of player potential. of course, clarke did remedy his error somewhat by snaring a first rounder (4th overall- pitkanen) for fedotenko.

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- janne niniimaa for luke richardson (mr. clarke, when slats calls you, HANG UP THE PHONE!)
- 1st, 2nd, 3rd pick + maxime oullette (sp?) for 25 games of adam oates
I thought it was Niniimaa for McGillis?

Still don't see how the Oates trade is a bad deal.

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I thought it was Niniimaa for McGillis?

Still don't see how the Oates trade is a bad deal.
oops, you are correct sir. it was a big slow oilers defenseman with stone hands, got the wrong one!

though mcgillis has been proving me wrong on the stone hands thing...

i think the oates trade was tremendously bad for philly. maybe it's just me. 1st, 2nd, 3rd pick? ouch. it looked a lot worse at the time maybe, because maxime oullette was a 'hot' prospect at the time for philly's dreaded goalie position. three years between NHL starts has perhaps dulled the 'bad trade' stigma...

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a bad trade would be(was)

desjardin,leclair and Dionne for recchi.not that recchi was bad but rico and leclair became all stars,dionne that's a diff story but.

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Any trade made by Mike Milbury...this guy will go down as the worst baffoon GM ever!

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The ever-frustrating Joni Pitkanen for Ruslan Fedotenko, Lukowich, picks, still hasn't pulled through.

One of the worst trades ever, though our history is marked by them. Aucoin, Cloutier, anyone?

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The worst has to be:

To Vancouver: Barry Pedersen
To Boston: Cam Neely and first round pick (Ray Borque)
The pick was Glen Wesley. It was still a horrible trade.

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Without a doubt:

Eric Lindros

for

Peter Forsberg
Mike Ricci
Chris Simon
Ron Hextall
Steve Duschesne
Kerry Huffman
1st rounder (Joclyn Thibault)
1st rounder (Nolan Baumgartner)
$15 million

Also

New York Islanders traded Todd Bertuzzi, Bryan McCabe and 3rd round selection (Jarkko Ruutu) in 1998 to the Vancouver Canucks for Trevor Linden.

New York Islanders traded Tommy Salo to the EdmontonOilers for Mats Lindgren and 8th round selection (Radek Martinek) in 1999.

Ottawa trades Pavol Demitra to St.Louis for Christer Olsson

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Barry Pederson
for
Cam Neely
Glen Wesley
Kyle McLaren
Sergei Samsonov
Jon Aitken
Jeff Jillson

Barry Pederson played 1 good season for the canucks, got injured and was never effective since

Cam Neely became the best powerforward in NHL history having a long illustrious career in boston as a legend

Glen Wesley was a 3rd overall pick and played many many years for the bruins as an effecitive defensemen, upon his signing by the whalers the bruins were awarded 3 1st round picks and they were

Sergei Samsonov who is one of the bruins best forward today

Kyle McLaren played a few good years for the bruins but was traded for

Jeff Jillson who is a great young offensive defenseman

Jon Aitken who is a still prospect. despite being a bad prospect he was a 8th overall pick

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Russ Courtnall for John Kordic... quite lopsided...

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Best trade for B's worst for Canucks- Neely for Pederson.

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it HAS to be:

Philadelphia Flyers traded Ron Hextall, Peter Forsberg, Steve Duchesne, Kerry Huffman, Mike Ricci, Chris Simon, 1st round selection (Jocelyn Thibault) in 1993, 1st round selection (later traded to the Toronto Maple Leafs, later traded to the Washington Capitals - Nolan Baumgartner) in 1994 and cash to the Quebec Nordiques for Eric Lindros.

THAT is bad.

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01-03-2004, 08:40 AM
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the lindros trade wasn't that bad. lindros won the hart, brought his team to the finals and was feared throughout the league for more than half a decade. in his prime, he was much more dominant than forsberg will ever be. and his marquee aspects enticed comcast to buy the flyers. why do the flyers have the money to support a roster filled with stars like roenick, comrie, handzus, primeau, gagne, williams, kapanen, amonte, brashear, leclair, recchi, johnsson et al? because of comcast's money lindros helped invite

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