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01-02-2004, 06:25 PM
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Report: Winnipeg wants Pittsburg

According to www.tsn.ca the mayor of Winnipeg has inquired about getting the Jets back to Winnipeg- pending a CBA where small market teams can compete. I so hope this is true.

To support the cause go to www.jetsowner.com and sign the petition!

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The NHL really needs to see how much Canadians love hockey. If the new CBA helps out the teams using the Canadian dollar, then I'm sure a lot of support will come to Winnipeg.

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You should go to the pens board, then ACTUALLY scroll down in this board and take look at the thread already started about this topic.
Nothing wrong w/ this thread. I'm pretty sure not many people from Winnepeg would've went to check the Pens board w/o this thread being started.

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Nothing wrong w/ this thread. I'm pretty sure not many people from Winnepeg would've went to check the Pens board w/o this thread being started.
Thanks because I thought it was smarter to put it on the main NHL board, where more people go to read stuff, than the pens where no one goes because they have no fans.

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It's also been on this board about 5 times now.

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It's also been on this board about 5 times now.
I missed them all except this one then.

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I think they've all been moved now.

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Thanks because I thought it was smarter to put it on the main NHL board, where more people go to read stuff
This was all that was necessary...no need for cheapshots. These threads are getting tiresome...as pp said, this has to be the 4th or 5th one on the past few days....one little report and suddenly, "The Pens are moving?! They should move here....no here would be better..wow that would be great!"....it is ridiculous. For the time being, the Pens are going nowhere....they still have a contract with Mellon for several more years.....

It's funny how Jets fans are upset about losing their team, and yet seem to be perfectly content to jump all over a team like Pittsburgh's financial woes in attempt to take the team for themselves....sounds pretty hippocritical to me.

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My only question in all this is: If by chance the team does move, is the city of Winnepeg going to be able to financially support the team?

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My only question in all this is: If by chance the team does move, is the city of Winnepeg going to be able to financially support the team?
I doubt we'd know until the newness wears off from the city having an NHL team again.

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I doubt we'd know until the newness wears off from the city having an NHL team again.

I guess it's all very well for the city fathers to say, "Yeah, we're interested in taking the team off your hands", but my worry is that whom ever purchases the franchise to move it had better have a pretty damned good financial backing to do it. Is that going to be possible?

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It's funny how the mayor's request wasn't even dignified with a response.

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Here is my copy and pasted answer in the other 4 threads about this issue:

Be careful....all of the people that support Winnipeg getting a franchise should remember that their attendance SUCKED in the NHL as well.

Capacity of the Winnipeg Arena (15 500)
Jets Attendance:

1979-80 13284
1980-81 13265
1981-82 13382
1982-83 12889
1983-84 12400
1984-85 12994
1985-86 13620
1986-87 13594
1987-88 12681
1988-89 12816
1989-90 13106
1990-91 12931
1991-92 12931
1992-93 13550
1993-94 13297
1994-95 13013
1995-96 11316

All the Winterpegger people that think they can support a nouveau NHL franchise should have shut up and supported the last one. And all the the people whining about the southern U.S cities having teams...the Jets would have near the worst attendance in the league last year with every season that they were existance.

Hey Winnipeggers that want an NHL team...where are the sellouts? Where are the capacities that say that Winnipeg can support an NHL team. Well they can't.

This Winnipeg B.S. is starting to get on my nerves.

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I'm kind of young so how good were the teams that Quebec had? If the Lindros deal was so lopsided would Quebec have sold out every game post Lindros deal?

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Is their a similar site for Quebec City ?

Man, Quebec vs Montreal ...

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Quebec City doesn't have the population nor the arena to support an NHL team.

I think it's clear that Canada doesn't have any other cities capable of supporting an NHL team right now. However, that won't stop all the dreaming of Hamilton, Quebec City, or Winnipeg getting NHL teams, no matter how unfeasible it is.

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Quebec City doesn't have the population nor the arena to support an NHL team.

I think it's clear that Canada doesn't have any other cities capable of supporting an NHL team right now. However, that won't stop all the dreaming of Hamilton, Quebec City, or Winnipeg getting NHL teams, no matter how unfeasible it is.
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Winnipeg still had better attendance than the supposed hockey hotbed of Minnesota, even in 1991 Minnesota averaged under 8,000! (I went to the same hockey attendance database you got your Jets info from). If Minnesota can get their team back when they averaged between 7,838 to 13,910 in the 90's and got a new arena much later, then why shouldn't Winnipeg get that chance when they also have a new, NHL-approved arena?

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Winnipeg still had better attendance than the supposed hockey hotbed of Minnesota, even in 1991 Minnesota averaged under 8,000! (I went to the same hockey attendance database you got your Jets info from). If Minnesota can get their team back when they averaged between 7,838 to 13,910 in the 90's and got a new arena much later, then why shouldn't Winnipeg get that chance when they also have a new, NHL-approved arena?
They would have a brand new team with a brand new arena that is worse than the one the Penguins have that isn't good enough.

They have less Luxury suites, less capacity than any NHL arena right now....including Mellon Arena.(And they made it so the arena was not expandable.) They have less population to draw a fan base and merchandising from. They have no corporate support to draw from.

I am tired of debating the ridiculous with diehards that just can't see that the notion of the NHL in Winnipeg is completely assenine.

And your comment of NHL approved arena. I heard the guy that was in charge of the whole deal at True North on Fan590 and he said he had no idea what the NHL criteria for arenas were so I would like to know where you got your NHL approved notion from.

Edit...I am Canadian, I love hockey, I love the Jets. I was a fan of the Jets from the WHA days when I lived in Kenora, ON as a kid. I watched Hull, Hedberg, Nilsson with Joe Daly in net. I would have loved them to keep their NHL franchise. The time to act was 10 years ago. Not now.


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It's funny how the mayor's request wasn't even dignified with a response.
Yeah...and if he ever does bother to respond, I doubt it's what the mayor and all these eager Jets fans want to hear......

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Originally Posted by slats432
Here is my copy and pasted answer in the other 4 threads about this issue:

Be careful....all of the people that support Winnipeg getting a franchise should remember that their attendance SUCKED in the NHL as well.

Capacity of the Winnipeg Arena (15 500)
Jets Attendance:

1979-80 13284
1980-81 13265
1981-82 13382
1982-83 12889
1983-84 12400
1984-85 12994
1985-86 13620
1986-87 13594
1987-88 12681
1988-89 12816
1989-90 13106
1990-91 12931
1991-92 12931
1992-93 13550
1993-94 13297
1994-95 13013
1995-96 11316

All the Winterpegger people that think they can support a nouveau NHL franchise should have shut up and supported the last one. And all the the people whining about the southern U.S cities having teams...the Jets would have near the worst attendance in the league last year with every season that they were existance.

Hey Winnipeggers that want an NHL team...where are the sellouts? Where are the capacities that say that Winnipeg can support an NHL team. Well they can't.

This Winnipeg B.S. is starting to get on my nerves.
The difference in the attendance numbers being that Winnipeg had on average 13000 fans ACTUALLY SHOW UP to the games, as opposed to having 8 or 9 thousand show up, have the entire lower bowl half empty, and announcing 15,000...like many teams are doing now. Keep in mind as well that a a few thousand of the seats in the Winnipeg Arena are absolute crap. Sightlines are terrible, and you'd be hardpressed to get someone to pay NHL dollar for a regular season game when you can barely see the action. The building was terrible.

We did support the last one. There are an awful lot of Canadian fans who need to stop complaining about hockey being in the south...its good for the sport, and good for the league. I also don't know many fellow Winnipeggers who are all that anxious to get the Penguins. Yeah, the mayor and the two-bit politician made a bit of a little bid for the Pens...it was front page news in the Winnipeg Sun...which says next to nothing, as thats little more than a tabloid. The fact is that there aren't too many Jets fans who would want to do the same thing to Pens fans that was done to us. However, just looking at the attendance numbers for the Jets and comparing it to the average attendance numbers today is a very inadequate method of exploring whether or not Winnipeg could support a team right now. Would there be enough corporate support to scoop up the one or two thousand extra season tickets to sell out the new rink? Of course there would be. Could a team be supported in Winnipeg? Depends on what happens with the next CBA, but if Edmonton and Calgary can do it, then so can Winnipeg. Simple as that.

Ideally, I want to see the Pens stay in Pittsburgh. I'd love to see hockey in winnipeg once again. CBA negotiations will tell us exactly how possible that is.

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I say if NHL gets an agreement to make Winnipeg feasible the teams they have now will be moreso. Pittsburgh, contrary to some blowhards on here, is not in that bad of shape. At most they might lose $5 million this season, which compares favorably to many franchises.

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