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07-30-2007, 12:52 PM
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this is just my opinion, but I think Kunitz is irreplaceable. He's small (not that small compared to AMac), fast, has great hands, and hits like a wrecking ball. He was the glue holding the Selanne-Mac line. Kunitz has a great work ethic and I think it'll help him reach his potential pretty soon.
Oh ****, get real.

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07-30-2007, 01:23 PM
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There's the buzz on this Thread!

I would take Kuntiz any day over Penner. Kuntiz is a little spark plug out on the Ice and to lose that, that would hurt the Ducks in more ways then Penner would. Kuntiz has the power to lay some big and hard hits out there, Penner can but doesn't!


And Plus I had a chance to meet Chris at a bowling alley in Tustin and he's a great guy! And he drinks too

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07-30-2007, 01:29 PM
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Oh ****, get real.
Relax, he's just opining...that being said both are nice complimentary players but I wouldn't break the bank for either of them. In terms of the Ducks currently on the roster and under the age of 30 I think they rank in importance to this franchise currently (but mostly its future) in this way:

Getzlaf
Beauchemin
Pahlsson
Mcdonald
Perry
Penner
Kunitz
Moen
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Huskins
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07-30-2007, 01:48 PM
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Taking salaries into account, I'd say Kunitz right now.

Penner has potential be something Kunitz can never be though, a star in this league.

You may have that backwards.

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07-30-2007, 02:06 PM
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how so?

Kunitz is paid around 1 million and Penner will be getting 4.

Kunitz will never be a star but penner might be

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07-30-2007, 02:17 PM
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how so?

Kunitz is paid around 1 million and Penner will be getting 4.

Kunitz will never be a star but penner might be
I think that to be a star in the NHL you first have to WANT to. Night in and night out.

Kunitz appears to be a lot hungrier. If he improves his game a little bit it will go a long way. I just think that he has potential.

He wont be a star along the lines of Crosby or Hossa/Heatley but maybe moreso like Tanguay. Not elite but well respected and always a threat. Point per game player capability.

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07-30-2007, 02:38 PM
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how so?

Kunitz is paid around 1 million and Penner will be getting 4.

Kunitz will never be a star but penner might be


Penner a star! I don't think so. He's never going to live up to getting paid 4.5 million a year. Kunitz will have better number then penner always!

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07-30-2007, 02:52 PM
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Teemu Selanne 82 48 46 94 26 82 25 0 10 257 18.7
Andy McDonald 82 27 51 78 16 46 8 0 3 252 10.7
Scott Niedermayer 79 15 54 69 6 86 9 0 3 172 8.7
Chris Kunitz 81 25 35 60 23 81 11 0 5 180 13.9
Chris Pronger 66 13 46 59 27 69 8 0 2 166 7.8
Ryan Getzlaf 82 25 33 58 17 66 11 1 6 203 12.3
Dustin Penner 82 29 16 45 -2 58 9 0 5 204 14.2
Corey Perry 82 17 27 44 12 55 4 0 3 194 8.8
Francois Beauchemin 71 7 21 28 7 49 2 0 0 128 5.5
Samuel Pahlsson 82 8 18 26 -4 42 0 0 1 111 7.2
Todd Marchant 56 8 15 23 7 44 0 3 2 115 7.0
Travis Moen 82 11 10 21 -4 101 0 0 0 124 8.9
Sean O'Donnell 79 2 15 17 9 92 0 0 1 47 4.3
Rob Niedermayer 82 5 11 16 -8 77 0 0 0 106 4.7

Penner scored 29 goals last season. More goals than anyone but Teemu.

But Kunitz scored 60 points with 25 goals. Thats 15 more points than Penner.

I'd take Kunitz.

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07-30-2007, 02:57 PM
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Teemu Selanne 82 48 46 94 26 82 25 0 10 257 18.7
Andy McDonald 82 27 51 78 16 46 8 0 3 252 10.7
Scott Niedermayer 79 15 54 69 6 86 9 0 3 172 8.7
Chris Kunitz 81 25 35 60 23 81 11 0 5 180 13.9
Chris Pronger 66 13 46 59 27 69 8 0 2 166 7.8
Ryan Getzlaf 82 25 33 58 17 66 11 1 6 203 12.3
Dustin Penner 82 29 16 45 -2 58 9 0 5 204 14.2
Corey Perry 82 17 27 44 12 55 4 0 3 194 8.8
Francois Beauchemin 71 7 21 28 7 49 2 0 0 128 5.5
Samuel Pahlsson 82 8 18 26 -4 42 0 0 1 111 7.2
Todd Marchant 56 8 15 23 7 44 0 3 2 115 7.0
Travis Moen 82 11 10 21 -4 101 0 0 0 124 8.9
Sean O'Donnell 79 2 15 17 9 92 0 0 1 47 4.3
Rob Niedermayer 82 5 11 16 -8 77 0 0 0 106 4.7

Penner scored 29 goals last season. More goals than anyone but Teemu.

But Kunitz scored 60 points with 25 goals. Thats 15 more points than Penner.

I'd take Kunitz.
What do you figure Penner scores playing a full season (and about 4 minutes per game more) with Selanne and McDonald? I bet the 15 pt gap disappears pretty quickly.

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07-30-2007, 02:58 PM
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Relax, he's just opining...
I'm plenty relaxed. Thanks for the concern though. It makes me feel all warm and tingly inside.

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07-30-2007, 02:59 PM
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What do you figure Penner scores playing a full season (and about 4 minutes per game more) with Selanne and McDonald? I bet the 15 pt gap disappears pretty quickly.
Maybe so, good point. But Getz and Perry arent bad linemates either. In fact their line produced when the first wasnt.

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07-30-2007, 03:52 PM
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Maybe so, good point. But Getz and Perry arent bad linemates either. In fact their line produced when the first wasnt.
True, they did, but Penner wasn't a permanent fixture on the 2nd line and he still kept up with Corey Perry who is supposed to be an offensive wizard (at least compared to Penner).

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True, they did, but Penner wasn't a permanent fixture on the 2nd line and he still kept up with Corey Perry who is supposed to be an offensive wizard (at least compared to Penner).
Perry's a bit underrated as well. He is very close to Getzlafs talent. Not quite but close. That kid has an amazing slapshot too.

Penner is good but 4 mill...I dont know.

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07-30-2007, 04:07 PM
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Perry's a bit underrated as well. He is very close to Getzlafs talent. Not quite but close. That kid has an amazing slapshot too.

Penner is good but 4 mill...I dont know.
Coming into the NHL Perry was supposed to be the "good" one between him and Getzlaf.

I concur. Penner isn't a 4M player. Hell, Selanne didn't even get 4 last season.

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07-30-2007, 05:29 PM
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What do you figure Penner scores playing a full season (and about 4 minutes per game more) with Selanne and McDonald? I bet the 15 pt gap disappears pretty quickly.
He can't play with Selanne and McDonald because he's too slow.

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Perry's a bit underrated as well. He is very close to Getzlafs talent. Not quite but close.
His "talent" might be close or in some ways superior (see stick handling)...however I would bet my entire bankroll that Getzlaf's career in the NHL is far, far superior.

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07-30-2007, 06:27 PM
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Hell, Selanne didn't even get 4 last season.
His Base+Bonus = $6.75M last year IIRC (and yes, his bonus was larger then his base salary).

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07-30-2007, 06:31 PM
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What do you figure Penner scores playing a full season (and about 4 minutes per game more) with Selanne and McDonald? I bet the 15 pt gap disappears pretty quickly.
I am not sure it would against the tougher opposition that line faced. Penner is also a lot slower then either of those two unlike Kunitz who is quick.

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07-30-2007, 08:52 PM
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Kunitz now >> Penner now
Penner potential> Kunitz potential
Kunitz likely finish product > Penner likely finished product
Kunitz value >> Penner value

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What I like about Kunitz is his physical presence, he is not a big guy but he works his ass off every shift. The effort he bings every time he is out there is just amazing.

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I really can't wait until Thursday so we can see what is really going to happen to Penner.

If he stays in Anaheim, he''ll be the hero, if he goes he''l be called a loser and a trader.


I say Kunitz is better for Anaheim at this point. Penner has been replaced by Bertuzzi, yes older but stronger and I actually think he layed low during the playoffs.

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Be careful on how much you devalue Penner because more than likely, come Friday morning, he'll still be a Duck!

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I love how far we've come in a year. This time last year many people were high on the re-signing of Stan Chistov and saying Kunitz is a third-liner at best. This thread is satisfying to say the least.

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If he stays in Anaheim, he''ll be the hero, if he goes he''l be called a loser and a trader.
Why would he be a hero if he stays in Anaheim? If he stays in Anaheim, it'll be because Burke matched. If he really was a "hero" he would have rejected the offer sheet Lowe gave him.

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Oh ****, get real.
You need a chill pill man. That's just my opinion, not the world's

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