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07-30-2007, 11:39 AM
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Avery's antics cost us some PP opportunities in the Buffalo series. He likes to dive, and the refs will eventually catch on. He's an asset and a liability. Avery's just playing on the emotion of fans to rush to his side. It's easy, and cheap, to paint Slats as the villain.
But Sather is the one who went public with his comments in the first place, seems like he is trying to get the fans against Avery. Keep the low blows in the arbitration office, why come public? Do the fans have any say which side should win? No.

Seems like I'm the only one looking it from the other side here. Is Avery not allowed to defend himself publicly after Sather attacks him publicly?

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07-30-2007, 11:42 AM
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Coming from another team, sure...coming from your own organization? Like i said in another thread, I find Sathers public remarks very unprofessional, and a sleazy attempt to try to get the arbitrators to side with him.
These aren't public comments...there is no direct quote from Sather..there are direct quotes from Avery...

Brooks got a hold of the legal brief nothing from sather

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07-30-2007, 11:45 AM
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But Sather is the one who went public with his comments in the first place, seems like he is trying to get the fans against Avery. Keep the low blows in the arbitration office, why come public? Do the fans have any say which side should win? No.

Seems like I'm the only one looking it from the other side here. Is Avery not allowed to defend himself publicly after Sather attacks him publicly?
Again, i think its a calculation on Sathers part (if indeed it was him that said it in public)

In the arbitration room Avery will be hearing a number of critical things and might think that its coming from the Rangers as a whole- coaching staff on up.

At least Sather has attached himself personally to the comment so everything that follows can be tagged onto Sather. I wouldnt be surprised if Sather himself does most of the talking in the meeting.

Its saavy. Any anger Avery has will be against Sather and not the team if they decide to keep which i think Sather wants anyway. Its also a presentation of the argument.

I could be wrong but if you get Avery back its better for the team that way.


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07-30-2007, 11:50 AM
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These aren't public comments...there is no direct quote from Sather..there are direct quotes from Avery...

Brooks got a hold of the legal brief nothing from sather
....well that sure changes some things on my part


Avery should have kept his mouth shut then and he does come off bad.

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07-30-2007, 12:30 PM
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What this also does...

is it highly motivates Avery to have a good season. Hopefully an angry, UFA-to-be Avery will be a benefit to the Rangers.

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07-30-2007, 12:37 PM
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Here's a theory. Let's say Averyis awarded 2M. At that point, it might make sense for Slats to come back with a multi-year deal worth more per season. So instead of signing a 1 year 2M contract, Avery could sign a 3 year 7.3M contract.

Or is he not allowed to sign another contract until January?

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07-30-2007, 12:40 PM
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Here's a theory. Let's say Averyis awarded 2M. At that point, it might make sense for Slats to come back with a multi-year deal worth more per season. So instead of signing a 1 year 2M contract, Avery could sign a 3 year 7.3M contract.

Or is he not allowed to sign another contract until January?
They would have to wait until January 1.Once the arbitrator issues the ruling,that is Avery's contract

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07-30-2007, 12:44 PM
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They would have to wait until January 1.Once the arbitrator issues the ruling,that is Avery's contract
But they could put it on the table...

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07-30-2007, 01:01 PM
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I don't want to sign Avery to a 3 year contract and I dont think Sather would either.

Its a win-win situation for both Avery and the Rangers to have a one year.

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It keeps Avery motivated as he plays for a UFA contract while helping maintain cap flexibility for the Rangers. And if Avery for some reason cannot accomplish that, a one-year deal will still be a win for the Rangers, who will not have committed too deeply to a player who in the past has had difficulty being a positive influence for his team in the long term.
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I agree with that.

You can bet they are going to arbitration.

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07-30-2007, 02:42 PM
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I don't see what the big deal is or what Brooks is trying to make controversy out of.
I've held an actual brief right off a desk in the Rangers offices. These things are made to help bring down the value of a player to some degree.

Is it smart business to say "Avery sparked this team and helped them make the playoffs. He is irreplaceable as a member of our organization BUT we don't want to spend more then 2 million on his contract"??

Business is business and Avery knows that. No player enjoys arbitration and this is an example of why. Once he's signed he and Sather will make nice nice and he'll be ready to put forth a great season in a contract year.

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07-30-2007, 03:41 PM
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anybody know when they will announce the decision?

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07-30-2007, 04:51 PM
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i heard that the arbitrator has to make a decision no more than 48 hours after the meeting.

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according to nhlnumbers.com rangers have like 600,000 to spend so the question should be who will they drop to resign Avery?

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07-30-2007, 07:35 PM
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according to nhlnumbers.com rangers have like 600,000 to spend so the question should be who will they drop to resign Avery?
Kaspar....

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07-30-2007, 07:36 PM
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If the Rangers are offering Avery 1.3 million what are they offering Hossa?

My guess is 800k...I thought earlier it could be close to a million but it's clear Sather is (AND SATHER IS RIGHT BY THE WAY) going to nickle and dime these players...

Honestly both Hossa and Avery playing for a contract next season is the BEST thing for the team..

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Kaspar....
yes kaspar makes 3.1 m and isnt a free agent till next year.
so you can waive him but that still only sheds 50 % 1.55

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according to nhlnumbers.com rangers have like 600,000 to spend so the question should be who will they drop to resign Avery?
they don't take off kasper or monty in that.....

and include shanny's incentives...

so right there is 6 million...so nobody.....

and his whole salary comes off the cap..if he is recalled and claimed then 1/2 of his salary hits our cap

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yes kaspar makes 3.1 m and isnt a free agent till next year.
so you can waive him but that still only sheds 50 % 1.55
your wrong..

If the rangers waive him he doesn't count against the cap...

If the Rangers recall him and another team claims him then the Rangers would be stuck with half his salary...

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Better questions

1) Will Avery be angry and not play as well, be a determint this season?

2) Is he going to re sign after this year or will he keep having ill feelings and go?

Long term implications?

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these things have a way of working itself out in the end.. Avery will be ok and play harder to get a bigger pay next year.

if we win the cup, shanny will prob go out on top as a champ and that frees up even more money... not to mention the CAP might go up...

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07-31-2007, 01:12 AM
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I don't think it is a big deal for the Rangers to only get Avery for one year at this point. Not only does it force him to play for his big contract, but unless he has an incredible year next season, his free market value is not going to be as high as he thinks. Not a lot of teams are going to be willing to put out a big, long-term offer for a player that is seen as moody, hard to handle, and has a penchant for taking a lot of unnecessary penalties.

The bottom line in my mind is that Avery was the one that initiated the arbitration so if he doesn't like the process, that's his own doing.

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yes kaspar makes 3.1 m and isnt a free agent till next year.
so you can waive him but that still only sheds 50 % 1.55
Actually, the Rangers could demote him and leave him in Binghamton. I believe that, under this scenario, Kasparitis would not count against the Rangers cap. Didn't the Devils do that with McGillis and his contract to get back under the cap last season (after they signed Elias and went over)?

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