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View Poll Results: who is the best norwegian nhl player ever?
Espen Knutsen 100 75.19%
Ole-Kristian Tollefsen 18 13.53%
Patrick Thoresen 15 11.28%
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best norwegian nhl player ever

i will have to say knutsen for now although i think tollefsen will have an amazing career

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Where's Myrvold?

Seriously, Right now I would say Knutsen. But in 2 years It's going to be Tollefsen. Both him and Thoresen will have longer careers than Espen.

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Knutsen although he didn't play very long.

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Espen Knutsen may be on his way back to Columbus?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XfmGDkYtPRI

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Espen Knutsen may be on his way back to Columbus?

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i dont speak norwegian, did they actually say anything about him coming back as an asst. coach?

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Tore Vikingstad deserves some mention.

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Tore Vikingstad deserves some mention.
Vikigstad never played in NHL, and the poll is "Best NHL player from Norway"

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Espen needs to cut the hair back alittle, good Lord. I remember his five assist game against Calgary, everything was working for him on that day. We miss Shampoo in Columbus.

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Its funny that you dont mention the best norwegian player ever Bjørn "Botta" Skaare...

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Its funny that you dont mention the best norwegian player ever Bjørn "Botta" Skaare...
He played 1 NHL game... how is the best Norwegian NHL player ever?

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He played 1 NHL game... how is the best Norwegian NHL player ever?
because he was waaaaaaaaaay better then knutsen, tollefsen and thoresen. allthough he never got a chanse to really prove it.

out of the options, tollefsen is the obvious choise for me, knutsen never really adjusted to the NHL and looked out of place most the times (i know he had he's moments were he was excellent).

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because he was waaaaaaaaaay better then knutsen, tollefsen and thoresen. allthough he never got a chanse to really prove it.

out of the options, tollefsen is the obvious choise for me, knutsen never really adjusted to the NHL and looked out of place most the times (i know he had he's moments were he was excellent).

There is a reason Botta played only one NHL-game... he wasnt good enough. He was godlike in norway at the time, mostly because the other players could hardly skate.

We have 3 norwegians recently and the poll is somewhat rediculous. Tollefsen plays(if at all) in the 3rd D pairing in Columbus, with all respect, they arent among the best teams in the league.

Thoresen is a 2-way center, playing (if at all) on the 3rd and 4th line (He actually had some minutes at the top 2 lines in edmonton last season with hardly no production).

Knutsen was a top 6 forward and is relatively small and skilled more than physical. Some say he would have been huge if playing in todays NHL because of the new rules who favours the more skilled players (they call penalties now they wouldnt even dream of when Knutsens was in the league).

Knutsen is my pick by faaaaaaaaaar, but its difficult to compare a playmaker (Knutsen), a shut-down center (Thoresen) and a 5-7 Deffenceman (Tollefsen).

And if u look at their wages, Thoresen and Tollefsen is among the less paid players in the whole league. That was not the case for Knutsen, he made a decent amount of money.

Thoresen may have a bright future in the league but most likely not. Tollefsen will probably make his money as of today as a 5-7 deffenceman (and an agitator/fighter) in several years from now but thats about it.

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There is a reason Botta played only one NHL-game... he wasnt good enough. He was godlike in norway at the time, mostly because the other players could hardly skate.
He was more than good enough. But in his first game he got tackled so hard that he went to the owner and told him that he didn't want to be a part of that type of hockey. That's why he didn't play more than one game.

"Et utrolig talent.
Allerede lenge før han fylte 16 år ble hockeytalentet Bjørn Skaare fra Furuset lagt merke til utover landets grenser. I aldersbestemte klasser gjorde han stort sett som han ville, enten det var i Sverige, Finland eller Mellom-Europa han deltok i turneringer. Faktisk var han nesten like suveren på fotballbanen, men valget var enkelt da ledelsen for hockeylandslaget kalte ham inn allerede som 17-åring. Det måtte bli hockey for "Botta". VM-debuten fant sted allerede i 1976, da Norge spilte B-VM i Sveits. Høsten `76 fikk han prøve seg i Färjestad, bare for å vende raskt hjem til Furuset Årsaken? - Jeg forlot Färjestad fordi ledelsen ikke ville la meg slippe til på A-laget, forklarte Botta selv. - De mente jeg var for ung (17 år), men jeg syntes jeg var god nok. De ville vente et halvår med å la meg slippe til. Så lang tid hadde jeg ikke lyst til å vente, så jeg dro hjem, sa Bjørn Skaare om sitt første utenlandstokt.

Til Detroit.
Og National Hockey League var klar til å ta imot Bjørn Skaare. Spørsmålet var bare om den ferske 20 - åringen fra Norge var rede til å møte NHL. Detroit Red Wings tok i hvert fall sjansen på å sende ham utpå mot Colorado Rockies i Denver den 29. november 1978. Kampen endte 2 - 2, men dessverre var den slutt for Bjørn lenge før sluttsignalet lød. Allerede i hans første bytt, som center mellom superstjernene Vaclav Nedomansky og Dan Labraaten traff Botta noe hardt. Han traff Barry Beck, Colorado - backen som er mest kjent som kaptein for New York Rangers på 80 - tallet og flere ganger utnevnt til verdens hardeste tackler. Selv syntes Botta skaden han pådro seg i møtet med Beck ikke var noe å snakke om, men NHL - debuten hadde likevel gjort et visst inntrykk på ham. Et så sterkt inntrykk at han sjokkerte Detroit ledelsen da han samme kveld forlangte å få reise tilbake til farmerlaget i Kansas City til tross for at manager Lindsay mer en gjerne ville beholde ham i Detroit. I følge pressen sendte Bjørn "rystelser gjennom hele farmerligaen" ved å vende ryggen til NHL. Aldri før hadde det skjedd at en spiller, langt mindre en rookie, av fri vilje hadde bedt om å få reise fra en NHL - klubb til " bakgården" CHL. De fleste av våre spillere ville vært villige til å gå hele veien til Detroit (1200 km), hvis vi ga dem en sjanse i NHL, saBob Nelson i Kansas City ledelsen. Men Bjørn Skaare kommer fra en annen del av verden."


http://www.furuset.no/index.php?cat=29120

Actually very interesting reading, more than this little notice on wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bjørn_Skaare

Someone should translate the first one.

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Nice blog about Espen "Shampoo" Knutsen from january!

http://blog.dispatch.com/cbj/2008/01...ket_ever.shtml

No. 21

Thomas Rebnord has requested it. So has Linda K. I cannot say no to a loyal blog reader from Norway. Nor can I ignore Linda K. So, here goes: Puck-rakers' argument that Espen Knutsen is the Greatest Blue Jacket Ever.

1. Espen Knutsen is from Norway, one of richest and yet most peaceful countries on Earth. (Yes, Ole-Kristian Tollefsen is trying to change the latter reputation, but ... )

2. Espen Knutsen was the first playmaking center in the history of the Blue Jackets. Holy freakin' fjords, he had 42 assists with Robert "Kron-o-matic" Kron on his right wing during the inaugural season of 2000-01. Not a typo -- 42 assists!

3. Espen Knutsen was the first All-Star Game representative for the Blue Jackets. He had one goal, two assists in an 8-5 win by the World All-Stars. The only better performance that night was by Jewel, singing the national anthem. (Side note: About 10 minutes before faceoff, the PR staff in Staples Center alerted the media that Jewel would be available for interviews right after she sang the anthem. I've never seen so many middle-age guys scramble for their notebooks so quickly. I asked a question. It was -- I kid you not -- "what key did you sing that in?" She smiled and answered. Compared to the other questions, mine was pretty dang sharp, I have to say. As a group, we had to be told to go back up to the press box. Something about a game going on, or something.)

4. Espen Knutsen had a great nickname: "Shampoo." He also had a great head of hair, especially during his early days playing in Europe. Looked like a 1980s hair band member.

5. Espen Knutsen is believed to be at least partly responsible for the spread of soccer balls in NHL dressing rooms. Soccer balls? Yes. When Knutsen arrived, he brought with him a soccer ball. He liked to keep it up in the air before a game, as a way to warm up his legs, prepare them for quick reflexes and otherwise get sharp. Soon, the entire Blue Jackets squad was kicking a ball around in the tunnel before every game. I may be naive. Some say teams have been kicking balls around for years. But I never noticed how widespread it was in the NHL until a few years after Knutsen arrived. The Blue Jackets still travel with a soccer ball today.

6. Espen Knutsen, in the first game ever played in Nationwide Arena (a preseason game on Sept. 22, 2000) had the little finger on his left hand slashed to the point of ... we'll let his words from the next day explain: "It really hurt right away, like my hand was burning. I played the rest of my shift, about 20 or 30 seconds before I headed to the bench. I took my glove off and my finger was just hanging there. It was almost cut off and there was blood everywhere.'' Knutsen had a pin surgically inserted and missed the first eight games of the season.

7. And he still had 42 assists!

8. Espen Knutsen, later that first season, took a puck flush to the maxilla. That's the upper portion of the jaw, right below the nose, above where the teeth rooted. Real quick, feel it. Now imagine a puck smacking you right there. In this case, it was a Deron Quint clearing attempt that Knutsen "kept in the zone." Ugh. It was so bad, he ... we'll let his words from the next day explain: "I knew it was really bad right away. I couldn't feel some of my teeth and I couldn't move my upper lip very well. I put a hand up above my mouth, and it was like something was missing. And all the blood . . .'' Knutsen explained the scene in the dressing room the night of his injury, that the roof of his mouth was fractured and overlapped, like two plates of Earth in a tectonic shift. When he got to the table in the dressing room, the doctors on site kept him on pain-killers until an oral surgeon arrived. He took one look at Espen's mouth and said -- these are Espen's words -- "Espen, this is going to hurt like hell. Let me know when you're ready!" Espen gave him the go sign, and the doctors pulled the bones from the room of his mouth into the shape they're supposed to be. "Milkshakes," Espen said. He lost five teeth ... two when the doctors yanked.

9. Espen Knutsen didn't miss a game because of the tectonic shift in his mouth. He had surgery on Monday and played two days later against Carolina, wearing a full shield. I would have still been in a fetal position.

10. Espen Knutsen loved to pass the puck. Loved it. He dreamed, much like Vyborny today, of tic-tac-toe goals. "In Europe," he once said, "nobody shoots, we just pass it until somebody messes up and it ends up past the goalie." In 2000-01, he took 62 shots in 66 games. That's beautiful.

11. Espen Knutsen still holds the club record with five assists in one game, March 24, 2001, a 6-4 win over Calgary. The Flames are still smarting over that one.

12. Espen Knutsen had the fourth hat trick in Blue Jackets history. It was on Feb. 24, 2002, a 6-2 win over San Jose. He took only four shots. He probably apologized to "Sandy" for not passing on all four occasions.

13. Espen Knutsen would pop in Depeche Mode, Alphaville or OMD in the stereo when he was the first guy into the dressing room after practice. Nothing wrong with that. The current club could learn a thing or two on this matter, trust me.

14. Espen Knutsen could hold long conversations about ski jumping. Biathlon, too. If only any of us could hold up the other half, it would have been hours.

15. Espen Knutsen used to get some of the most unbelievable mail from fans in Norway. Dude was gi-normously famous in Norway.

16. Espen Knutsen is now coaching Valerenga in Norway's top pro hockey league. (I'm told by Daniel, another loyal reader from Norway, that he was just suspended three games for throwing a water bottle at an official.) My guess is, Espen will be coaching that Norwegian National Team in the veyr near future. Go, Norge, Go. Maybe he'll have Ole-Kristian Tollefsen on the roster someday.

17. Espen Knutsen was acquired by Columbus on May 25, 2000, from Anaheim for a fourth-round draft pick. Can you say, steal? The Ducks took defenseman Vladimir Korsonov with that pick. I doubt the Blue Jackets would have done much better. Korsonov is a marginal player in Russia. Nobody in the NHL currently hold his rights.

18. Espen Knutsen ... is there are cooler name? Maybe Teemu Selanne, but there are Teemus all over Finland. Espen ... very nice.

19. Espen Knutsen forgot to bring a suit with him to the rink one day ... the day portrait shots were being taken of the players who made the inaugural team. So, always the crafty veteran, Knutsen borrowed a sport coat from VP of public relations Todd Sharrock. Now, Sharrock isn't Shaq, but he's a good six inches taller than Knutsen. Ol' Espen looks like a 9-year-old wearing his older brother's garb. Pretty funny. It's still hanging in the Blue Jackets' offices.

20. Espen Knutsen was sent to Syracuse of the AHL during the 2003-04 season and never complained. I gave him every opportunity to bicker about being sent to the minors, and he wouldn't do it. He played two games there, lit it up and figured out that the Blue Jackets weren't ever going to recall him to the NHL. So they worked out a deal, and he returned to Europe. After only 15 games in the 2003-04 season, Knutsen was forced to retire with a neck injury. He's in great shape now, but if he kept playing, it could have been a bad situation. I'd love to have a beer with him in an Oslo tavern sometime.

21. Espen Knutsen was listed at 5-11, 195. Yeah, right. And my driver's license is right, too. Epsen was about 5-8 on skates, 180 with his pads on, sweaty after a game. In streets, I'd say he was 5-6, 170.

He was always larger than life to me.

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woah i never read that before, great find

And my vote goes to Espo, my hero

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Nice blog about Espen "Shampoo" Knutsen from january!

http://blog.dispatch.com/cbj/2008/01...ket_ever.shtml

No. 21

Thomas Rebnord has requested it. So has Linda K. I cannot say no to a loyal blog reader from Norway. Nor can I ignore Linda K. So, here goes: Puck-rakers' argument that Espen Knutsen is the Greatest Blue Jacket Ever.

1. Espen Knutsen is from Norway, one of richest and yet most peaceful countries on Earth. (Yes, Ole-Kristian Tollefsen is trying to change the latter reputation, but ... )

2. Espen Knutsen was the first playmaking center in the history of the Blue Jackets. Holy freakin' fjords, he had 42 assists with Robert "Kron-o-matic" Kron on his right wing during the inaugural season of 2000-01. Not a typo -- 42 assists!

3. Espen Knutsen was the first All-Star Game representative for the Blue Jackets. He had one goal, two assists in an 8-5 win by the World All-Stars. The only better performance that night was by Jewel, singing the national anthem. (Side note: About 10 minutes before faceoff, the PR staff in Staples Center alerted the media that Jewel would be available for interviews right after she sang the anthem. I've never seen so many middle-age guys scramble for their notebooks so quickly. I asked a question. It was -- I kid you not -- "what key did you sing that in?" She smiled and answered. Compared to the other questions, mine was pretty dang sharp, I have to say. As a group, we had to be told to go back up to the press box. Something about a game going on, or something.)

4. Espen Knutsen had a great nickname: "Shampoo." He also had a great head of hair, especially during his early days playing in Europe. Looked like a 1980s hair band member.

5. Espen Knutsen is believed to be at least partly responsible for the spread of soccer balls in NHL dressing rooms. Soccer balls? Yes. When Knutsen arrived, he brought with him a soccer ball. He liked to keep it up in the air before a game, as a way to warm up his legs, prepare them for quick reflexes and otherwise get sharp. Soon, the entire Blue Jackets squad was kicking a ball around in the tunnel before every game. I may be naive. Some say teams have been kicking balls around for years. But I never noticed how widespread it was in the NHL until a few years after Knutsen arrived. The Blue Jackets still travel with a soccer ball today.

6. Espen Knutsen, in the first game ever played in Nationwide Arena (a preseason game on Sept. 22, 2000) had the little finger on his left hand slashed to the point of ... we'll let his words from the next day explain: "It really hurt right away, like my hand was burning. I played the rest of my shift, about 20 or 30 seconds before I headed to the bench. I took my glove off and my finger was just hanging there. It was almost cut off and there was blood everywhere.'' Knutsen had a pin surgically inserted and missed the first eight games of the season.

7. And he still had 42 assists!

8. Espen Knutsen, later that first season, took a puck flush to the maxilla. That's the upper portion of the jaw, right below the nose, above where the teeth rooted. Real quick, feel it. Now imagine a puck smacking you right there. In this case, it was a Deron Quint clearing attempt that Knutsen "kept in the zone." Ugh. It was so bad, he ... we'll let his words from the next day explain: "I knew it was really bad right away. I couldn't feel some of my teeth and I couldn't move my upper lip very well. I put a hand up above my mouth, and it was like something was missing. And all the blood . . .'' Knutsen explained the scene in the dressing room the night of his injury, that the roof of his mouth was fractured and overlapped, like two plates of Earth in a tectonic shift. When he got to the table in the dressing room, the doctors on site kept him on pain-killers until an oral surgeon arrived. He took one look at Espen's mouth and said -- these are Espen's words -- "Espen, this is going to hurt like hell. Let me know when you're ready!" Espen gave him the go sign, and the doctors pulled the bones from the room of his mouth into the shape they're supposed to be. "Milkshakes," Espen said. He lost five teeth ... two when the doctors yanked.

9. Espen Knutsen didn't miss a game because of the tectonic shift in his mouth. He had surgery on Monday and played two days later against Carolina, wearing a full shield. I would have still been in a fetal position.

10. Espen Knutsen loved to pass the puck. Loved it. He dreamed, much like Vyborny today, of tic-tac-toe goals. "In Europe," he once said, "nobody shoots, we just pass it until somebody messes up and it ends up past the goalie." In 2000-01, he took 62 shots in 66 games. That's beautiful.

11. Espen Knutsen still holds the club record with five assists in one game, March 24, 2001, a 6-4 win over Calgary. The Flames are still smarting over that one.

12. Espen Knutsen had the fourth hat trick in Blue Jackets history. It was on Feb. 24, 2002, a 6-2 win over San Jose. He took only four shots. He probably apologized to "Sandy" for not passing on all four occasions.

13. Espen Knutsen would pop in Depeche Mode, Alphaville or OMD in the stereo when he was the first guy into the dressing room after practice. Nothing wrong with that. The current club could learn a thing or two on this matter, trust me.

14. Espen Knutsen could hold long conversations about ski jumping. Biathlon, too. If only any of us could hold up the other half, it would have been hours.

15. Espen Knutsen used to get some of the most unbelievable mail from fans in Norway. Dude was gi-normously famous in Norway.

16. Espen Knutsen is now coaching Valerenga in Norway's top pro hockey league. (I'm told by Daniel, another loyal reader from Norway, that he was just suspended three games for throwing a water bottle at an official.) My guess is, Espen will be coaching that Norwegian National Team in the veyr near future. Go, Norge, Go. Maybe he'll have Ole-Kristian Tollefsen on the roster someday.

17. Espen Knutsen was acquired by Columbus on May 25, 2000, from Anaheim for a fourth-round draft pick. Can you say, steal? The Ducks took defenseman Vladimir Korsonov with that pick. I doubt the Blue Jackets would have done much better. Korsonov is a marginal player in Russia. Nobody in the NHL currently hold his rights.

18. Espen Knutsen ... is there are cooler name? Maybe Teemu Selanne, but there are Teemus all over Finland. Espen ... very nice.

19. Espen Knutsen forgot to bring a suit with him to the rink one day ... the day portrait shots were being taken of the players who made the inaugural team. So, always the crafty veteran, Knutsen borrowed a sport coat from VP of public relations Todd Sharrock. Now, Sharrock isn't Shaq, but he's a good six inches taller than Knutsen. Ol' Espen looks like a 9-year-old wearing his older brother's garb. Pretty funny. It's still hanging in the Blue Jackets' offices.

20. Espen Knutsen was sent to Syracuse of the AHL during the 2003-04 season and never complained. I gave him every opportunity to bicker about being sent to the minors, and he wouldn't do it. He played two games there, lit it up and figured out that the Blue Jackets weren't ever going to recall him to the NHL. So they worked out a deal, and he returned to Europe. After only 15 games in the 2003-04 season, Knutsen was forced to retire with a neck injury. He's in great shape now, but if he kept playing, it could have been a bad situation. I'd love to have a beer with him in an Oslo tavern sometime.

21. Espen Knutsen was listed at 5-11, 195. Yeah, right. And my driver's license is right, too. Epsen was about 5-8 on skates, 180 with his pads on, sweaty after a game. In streets, I'd say he was 5-6, 170.

He was always larger than life to me.

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That's just about the funniest thing I've read today. Thanks for sharing!

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If Norway can produce a couple more players of Knutsen's talent, hockey would have a chance at exploding there. The problem with the lack of popularity in Norway starts with the low number of rinks, but the key to having more rinks built is to increase popularity of the sport. The only way to do that is to produce more skilled players.

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If Norway can produce a couple more players of Knutsen's talent, hockey would have a chance at exploding there. The problem with the lack of popularity in Norway starts with the low number of rinks, but the key to having more rinks built is to increase popularity of the sport. The only way to do that is to produce more skilled players.

Hopefully Thoresen will return to the NHL someday.
I'd rather see Holtet, Bastiansen and maybe the tiny guy in the NHL instead.

Holtet is just amazing IMO. Such energy, and such skill.

Aasen needs to try a more physical league than the SEL before I am too sure about him being able to play in the NHL. The skill is already there, but he is friggin tiny.

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Who won the Stanley Cup again?

Yeah, a bunch of swedes. He knows he has to be more physical. He lacks upper-body I think. From what people have told, his legs are just fine. Just need to get used to the NHL-tempo.


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Espen Knutsen is a legend in Stockholm. Well some parts of it anyway. One of my all-time favourite hockey players. Would love to see Norway produce more talents like him.

Is hockey actually on the rise in Noggieland or is telemark stealing all the talents?

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