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01-04-2004, 11:06 AM
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Eric Brewer being shopped....

RUMOURS FROM THE DETROIT NEWS.

The Edmonton Oilers are shopping defenceman Eric Brewer in hopes of landing a scoring forward.

Now there is a player I would think would help the Leafs situation and young enough to grow a while with...

Scoring Forward????

Hmmmmm....

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What scoring forward can we afford to give up?

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What scoring forward can we afford to give up?
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i'd honestly rather give antropov!

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Hell no! NOT DARCY!

But seriously, aside from not wanting to deal my favourite Leaf, I honestly believe that Tucker is too valuable, and brings too much for the Leafs to lose. Just like the Buffalo game, think of that forechecking and the huge hits. Every team needs a Tucker. I think if we ever did lose him, we would truly see what he brought and how we took it for granted.

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What scoring forward can we afford to give up?

How about the Twin Towers in a package for Brewer????...

Edmonton has long liked Ant and with Poni it gives the Oilers some real size

Brewer certainly upgrades the Leafs Defense...

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Hell no! NOT DARCY!

But seriously, aside from not wanting to deal my favourite Leaf, I honestly believe that Tucker is too valuable, and brings too much for the Leafs to lose. Just like the Buffalo game, think of that forechecking and the huge hits. Every team needs a Tucker. I think if we ever did lose him, we would truly see what he brought and how we took it for granted.
If Tucker was going to Edmonton I would like to see Ryan Smyth coming the other way in a mulit-player trade

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i think giving antropov and ponikarovsky is too much... but i'd be willing to do it.

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How about the Twin Towers in a package for Brewer????...

Edmonton has long liked Ant and with Poni it gives the Oilers some real size

Brewer certainly upgrades the Leafs Defense...
That's exactly what I would do. The Oilers lack big forwards.

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Not Nik!

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why the hell not???

He's big and has talent yes. But he's always injured, if it isn't his knees then its his shoulders or back or nose or teeth. I love him really I do... but i'd rather deal 24yr old antropov then 28yr old tucker who is healthy and provides a hella lot on ice!

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OK if we all want the Stanley Cup which I'm sure we do, we have to deal this guy. There's nobody else that makes as much as sense as Antropov. He is our best option for dealing for that defenseman.

...Although I'm not convinced that Eric Brewer is the guy that will put us over the top. I still believe that Adrian Aucoin is the guy we need. Big minutes, big guy, good defensively, can even help on the PP. Stud is the correct word.

A deal such as Antropov, Ponikarovsky, Bell, and a 1st or 2nd should do the trick.

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They gave way Comrie for picks and a prospect and remember they turned down Lupul, who is in the NHL right now. The Oilers aren't a team thats trying to win this year (they are in 12th place, and 7 points out of a playoff spot), the Leafs could probably get Brewer for picks and prospects as well.

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The Oilers aren't a team thats trying to win this year, the Leafs could probably get Brewer for picks and prospects as well.
Probably. That's why I don't understand why they'd want a scoring forward. There's no point. Unless they want a guy who can become that player, ie Antropov.

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i think giving antropov and ponikarovsky is too much... but i'd be willing to do it.

Poni by himself has little value ...and may have more value for his size than his skill....but with Ant....really addresses a need by the Oilers..

Draft picks could balance it out ...if need be..

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Probably. That's why I don't understand why they'd want a scoring forward. There's no point. Unless they want a guy who can become that player, ie Antropov.
Small Market Team ...needs to keep its fans and support and can not always afford to take picks and prospects ...Since they did in the Comrie deal they would want players to put in Oilers Uniforms To be able to fans in the seats... IMO

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I would trade Tucker way before I traded Nik.

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Poni by himself has little value ...and may have more value for his size than his skill....but with Ant....really addresses a need by the Oilers..

Draft picks could balance it out ...if need be..
i wasn't saying poni was enough Hahaha... i think antropov, 3rd for brewer would do it. Or instead of the 3rd throw in a mediocre prospect.

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I would trade Tucker way before I traded Nik.
9 out 10 times I would agree here ...but Antropov has been very injury prone and since he is back and healthy ...Now might be the time to pull off that trade, particularly because it is for a young defender....

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i wasn't saying poni was enough Hahaha... i think antropov, 3rd for brewer would do it. Or instead of the 3rd throw in a mediocre prospect.
Thats not waht I was saying either but all things considered the play of Ant and Poni together makes it a more attractive package..as together have good chemistry and SIZE would really get a team that desires it interested.. IMO...

Oilers in fact have a strong prospect pool and I think they need bodies and not picks to make fans happy..

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Now may be the time to trade tucker.
His value may be peaked right now.

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Thats not waht I was saying either but all things considered the play of Ant and Poni together makes it a more attractive package..as together have good chemistry and SIZE would really get a team that desires it interested.. IMO...

Oilers in fact have a strong prospect pool and I think they need bodies and not picks to make fans happy..
I agree!!!

I'd love to do a antropov, ponikarovsky, Bell, 2rd for brewer, woywitka Hahahhaha

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needs to keep its fans and support and can not always afford to take picks and prospects ...Since they did in the Comrie deal they would want players to put in Oilers Uniforms To be able to fans in the seats... IMO
Which is why you're an idiot, you don't bother looking at the situation teams are in, they aren't winning (last in their divison), do you really think Antropov is going to sell more tickets in Edmonton? LOOK AT THE TEAM AND THEIR SITUATION. They could have had Lupul, but instead took a prospect theres a reason for it. They aren't trying to build a team that will win right now, they are rebuilding, if they wanted to improve for right now they wouldn't have taken picks and prospects for Comrie, a player they could have gotten roster players for. And like you just said, they have a good group of young players, the Oilers know this, they know theres a better chance of them keeping more of those players and getting vets to complement them under the new CBA, so they are planning ahead for that future. A prospect like Colaiacovo, Steen etc... and a first round pick help that future more then a 23 year old (25 by the time they'll get him for a whole season) injury prone powerfoward.

The Leafs won't want to give up Antropov, and it makes just as much sense, if not more, for the Oilers to take picks and prospects. If Brewer does come to the Leafs, thats what it will cost them.

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I agree!!!

I'd love to do a antropov, ponikarovsky, Bell, 2rd for brewer, woywitka Hahahhaha
Well I know you kidding, but another thought would for the Leafs to possible add a young dman prospect and make the deal include a switch of first round picks...

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Antropov 19 years old 1999 TOR 66GP 12G 18A 30P
Smyth 19 years old 1995 EDM 48GP 2G 9A 11P

Antropov 20 years old 2000 TOR 52GP 6G 11A 17P
Bertuzzi 20 years old 1995 NYI 76GP 18G 21A 39P
Roberts 20 years old 1986 CGY 32GP 5G 10A 15P
Smyth 20 years old 1996 EDM 82GP 39G 22A 61P

Antropov 21 years old 2001 TOR 11GP 1G 1A 2P
Bertuzzi 21 years old 1996 NYI 64GP 10G 13A 23P
Roberts 21 years old 1987 CGY 74GP 13G 15A 28P
Smyth 21 years old 1997 EDM 65GP 20G 13A 33P

Antropov 22 years old 2002 TOR 72GP 16G 29A 45P
Bertuzzi 22 years old 1997 NYI/VAN 74GP 13G 20A 33P
Roberts 22 years old 1988 CGY 71GP 22G 16A 38P
Smyth 22 years old 1998 EDM 71GP 13G 18A 31P

Antropov 23 years old 2003 TOR 20GP 5G 6A 11P *so far (missed 20 games)
Bertuzzi 23 years old 1998 VAN 32GP 8G 8A 16P
Roberts 23 years old 1989 CGY 78GP 39G 33A 72P
Smyth 23 years old 1999 EDM 82GP 28G 26A 54P

Notice not just the point totals, but the fact that they all missed significant numbers of games. Antropov had a serious injury which pretty much set his development back a year and caused him to miss alot of time, but other than that he doesnt look out of place with that group.

Not that I'm saying he is the next Bertuzzi or anything though.

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