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01-04-2004, 09:11 PM
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Another Setback for NTDP

In the wake of several top recruits and their head coach going to the CHL, the US NTDP U-17 team just finished out of the medals at the World U-17 Challenge. Three Canadian regional teams (Ontario, Pacific, Quebec) collected the hardware, with Ontario having the highest percentage of CHL players.

I was told that this is supposedly the best U-17 that the program has ever had. How does a team that has been together for 4 months get beaten THREE TIMES by regional Canadian teams put together two days before the tournament?? (Granted, the US won the last 2 tournaments in overtime finals). To say nothing of the U-18 team coming up empty at last years World U-18 Championship.

Frankly, I think USA Hockey is wasting these huge amounts of money on the NTDP. Save the money and let the elite players develop in the CHL and USHL.

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In the wake of several top recruits and their head coach going to the CHL, the US NTDP U-17 team just finished out of the medals at the World U-17 Challenge. Three Canadian regional teams (Ontario, Pacific, Quebec) collected the hardware, with Ontario having the highest percentage of CHL players.

I was told that this is supposedly the best U-17 that the program has ever had. How does a team that has been together for 4 months get beaten THREE TIMES by regional Canadian teams put together two days before the tournament?? (Granted, the US won the last 2 tournaments in overtime finals). To say nothing of the U-18 team coming up empty at last years World U-18 Championship.

Frankly, I think USA Hockey is wasting these huge amounts of money on the NTDP. Save the money and let the elite players develop in the CHL and USHL.
This is a tough pill for the US U17 squad and USA Hockey to swallow. They have won 1 or 2 of these events before, but again, they are at such an advantage having already played with one another for months, compared with the regional Canadian squads. It's interesting Russia hasn't done as well as they should at the last couple of events, but who knows if they are always sending their best guys??

I guess the USA was still missing some of their best 1987 born players at this tourney, but heck, if you had of put Sydney Crosby on Team Atlantic, the USA might not have even made the semi's?? It's amazing how select teams from various countries can't beat a regional team from Canada, but in the end I guess this really shows the depth and talent of Canadian Hockey!

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So what your point?

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So what your point?
That while the U-17 team played like crap, the U-20 won its first gold medal ever, a team predominantly made up of NTDP alum.

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That while the U-17 team played like crap, the U-20 won its first gold medal ever, a team predominantly made up of NTDP alum.

Team USA's main players aren't even NTDP alumni! Go figure.

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Team USA's main players aren't even NTDP alumni! Go figure.

Lets see.....NTDP Alumni include:

Goalies
Al Montoya
Jim Howard (Injured)

Defense
Matt Hunwick
Corey Potter
Matt Carle
Jeff Likens
Mark Stuart
Ryan Suter

Forwards
David Booth
Jake Dowell
Pat Eaves
Ryan Kesler
Greg Moore
Patrick O'Sullivan
Brett Sterling
Stephen Warner

All of which are NTDP Alumni. Only 7 of the 22 players do not have any NTDP experience. Pretty good if you ask me. Also, while every player was a key player, I'd say the only non-NTDP alumni that were "main" players for the USA were:

Zach Parise
Dan Fritche
James Wisniewski

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Team USA's main players aren't even NTDP alumni! Go figure.


HabLover is a stooge. Go figure.

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Lets see.....NTDP Alumni include:

Goalies
Al Montoya
Jim Howard (Injured)

Defense
Matt Hunwick
Corey Potter
Matt Carle
Jeff Likens
Mark Stuart
Ryan Suter

Forwards
David Booth
Jake Dowell
Pat Eaves
Ryan Kesler
Greg Moore
Patrick O'Sullivan
Brett Sterling
Stephen Warner

All of which are NTDP Alumni. Only 7 of the 22 players do not have any NTDP experience. Pretty good if you ask me. Also, while every player was a key player, I'd say the only non-NTDP alumni that were "main" players for the USA were:

Zach Parise
Dan Fritche
James Wisniewski
You could add Mike Eaves to that list as well............

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Thanks for the link. I don't think there's any question the USNDTP has some problems, and needs to be refined. But the results speak for themselves. I think we could be witness to the next generation of great American NHL players, and that can only be good for the game in this country.

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