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08-15-2007, 10:29 PM
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OT: Ron Low back in the NHL

Ron Low one of the Senators new assistant coaches. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=216201&hubname=nhl What do u guys think of this?? Reason I post this is cause he was a former Rangers coach and a bad one.

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He was already on the Sens coaching staff as goaltending coach the past three seasons.

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08-16-2007, 01:37 AM
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Man was he a lousy head coach.

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I don't know! When coach continually gives that as his answer you just knew we were in trouble.

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It's tough to say whether or not he was a lousy coach. Too often in sports nowadays, coaches are defined by one season (or less). Sather, Trottier, Low, Muckler and co. weren't given much of a chance as coach on Broadway. As we have seen with Renney, there is some consistency and some (perhaps even more importantly) continuity that has translated into success. To take bad, random teams and blame the coach after one season isn't really fair. Don't get me wrong, there was no excuse for the Decade of Doom, but at the same time the problem went much deeper than Ron Low.

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ahh, ron low...i remember that 2nd season of his well.
i'll just say that was an extra-painful collapse that i'm just getting over now.

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It's tough to say whether or not he was a lousy coach. Too often in sports nowadays, coaches are defined by one season (or less). Sather, Trottier, Low, Muckler and co. weren't given much of a chance as coach on Broadway. As we have seen with Renney, there is some consistency and some (perhaps even more importantly) continuity that has translated into success. To take bad, random teams and blame the coach after one season isn't really fair. Don't get me wrong, there was no excuse for the Decade of Doom, but at the same time the problem went much deeper than Ron Low.
excellent post.

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excellent post.
The problem was definitely much deeper than Low but he wasnt the right man for the post at any point. Just like trottier; i for one, didnt expect him to have success - he had too much going against him to be a hit as a Ranger. When you have such hurdles to jump as Trottier did you'd got an instant disadvantage to get over.

Ron Low is/was a good goalie coach, he was doing what he knows best but he is not an NHL head coach. He wasnt great in Edmonton either. Some ex players just dont translate into good head coaches...

Look at Tony Granato. A great assistant coach at Colorado and when he had his shot he failed.

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agree great post by NYRJurgen.

lack of continuity is a problem most of the time. Switching coaches after a dozen games is not condusive to success.

Of course some coach get lucky and get instant success improvement only to fail in the long run.

How long was low coaching ? 2 seasons? he should have done better.

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I have a real problem with a coach who uses the word "we" when the team wins and the word "they" when team loses.

I think the fact that he hasn't gotten so much as a sniff of an NHL head coaching job shows it was more than an organization that was in disarray at the time or sub par talent base.

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When the Rangers play the Sens we must chant "Low Must Go!" for old times sake.

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That Nightmare on 34th St. book by Carpiniello made it seem as though Low was totally clueless and helpless as that ship sank.

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I have a real problem with a coach who uses the word "we" when the team wins and the word "they" when team loses.

I think the fact that he hasn't gotten so much as a sniff of an NHL head coaching job shows it was more than an organization that was in disarray at the time or sub par talent base.
it comes back to accountability. even when Renneywas getting criticized he still used the term 'we' when speaking during bad stretches or when defending a player. It makes players and teams think they have backing and everyone buys into the team ethic. If people suddenly abandon the 'we' ethic then things can fall apart.

Its a reason why Renney is doing well and Low didnt. Granted, Renney has a better team but he helped create that team too.

Low was never the right man for NYR.

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so how come he was a coach for 2 seasons? and on whose watch?

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so how come he was a coach for 2 seasons? and on whose watch?
what do you mean by watch? GM? it was Sather.

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That Nightmare on 34th St. book by Carpiniello made it seem as though Low was totally clueless and helpless as that ship sank.
HAHAHA one of my fav. reads ever! Low was a disaster!

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what do you mean by watch? GM? it was Sather.
precisely Jurgen - low, like trottier were hired by teflon slats

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precisely Jurgen - low, like trottier were hired by teflon slats
teflon?

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precisely Jurgen - low, like trottier were hired by teflon slats
Not sure where you're going with this london. I don't think anyone is giving Sather a pass. And certainly nobody was giving Sather a pass at that time.

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Not sure where you're going with this london. I don't think anyone is giving Sather a pass. And certainly nobody was giving Sather a pass at that time.
he did alot of bad when he first came here...but in credit to him he has rectified alot in the past 3 years. Granted he's not out of the woods yet but if he brings us a cup i'll completely forgive him!!!

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Not sure where you're going with this london. I don't think anyone is giving Sather a pass. And certainly nobody was giving Sather a pass at that time.

good!

we are moaning about Low as a Rangers coach whereas the responsability
for this disaster lies upstairs.

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Pre-lockout Sather was every bit as bad as his head coaching choices. As for Low if one thing stands out in my mind it was a game against one of the Florida teams (I believe the Panthers) towards the end of the season where the Rangers were hanging on by almost the thinnest of threads and Richter had been plowed into in the warmup by Martin Rucinsky. There was concern that he was hurt but Low started him anyway. A few minutes in a center ice slapshot went off of his head. What did Low do--well he really was clueless. He left him in and he got beaned again. Fractured skull was the result--probably already had the concussion sometime before that. Mike's career was over shortly afterwards.

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yes I remember that one!

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Pre-lockout Sather was every bit as bad as his head coaching choices. As for Low if one thing stands out in my mind it was a game against one of the Florida teams (I believe the Panthers) towards the end of the season where the Rangers were hanging on by almost the thinnest of threads and Richter had been plowed into in the warmup by Martin Rucinsky. There was concern that he was hurt but Low started him anyway. A few minutes in a center ice slapshot went off of his head. What did Low do--well he really was clueless. He left him in and he got beaned again. Fractured skull was the result--probably already had the concussion sometime before that. Mike's career was over shortly afterwards.
just very very bad memories. remember when Jeff Toms scored the hat trick

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The best part about him being coach was ruffling his suit jacket when he'd get mad at the refs, funny stuff.

But it wasn't funny that he was just a dreadful coach, he was given two years and even though the team wasn't great his coaching was just as bad, same with Muckler.

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