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08-17-2007, 10:16 AM
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Trade offer for my #1 overall pick.

I have the #1 overall pick in our 1st year keeper league fantasy draft. The guy who has the #2 overall pick has offered me a trade. Here it is

My 1st round #1 overall

For

His 1st round #2 overall
and His 1st and 2nd rounders next year.

Basically it would be like this

Sidney Crosby

for
Alexander Oveckin + 1st and 2nd round picks in next years draft.

I'm thinking about doing it.
Any thoughts or comments?

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08-17-2007, 10:54 AM
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If you think AO is comparible to Crosby than do it. In all reality you should because the 2 picks does set it off, but Its Sid. I wouldnt trade him for the moon. He is the best player in the league, and you should never trade the best player in the league.

You should trade him for the 19th pick in the draft(i think thats what i am)

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08-17-2007, 10:56 AM
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I say no. When drafting from scratch, entry picks shouldn't have that much value.

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No. Dont trade Sidney Crosby.

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Why would you pass up Crosby?

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Dont do that trade, you would be getting jacked... you should do the trade from the kings... looking something like this

Kings First Rounder
Kings Second Rounder
Kings Third Rounder
Kings First Next Year
Kings Third Rounder Next Year
Kings Tenth Rounder
Kings Fifteenth Rounder

For

Your First Rounder
Your Third Rounder
Your Fourth Rounder
Your twentieth Rounder


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08-17-2007, 12:48 PM
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do it definitily crosby is great and all but you are looking at so much more talent with the other picks. the diff in points beween the two will be about 30 pts at most now that OV is on a playoff team with Backstrom, Semin and Nylander they are comapirable to the pens as far as surrounding talent with talent. I would ask for another roster player or his third rounder in the this years draft. in my league tht was cheecho a cheep 50 goal scoerer...that is def worth it.

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do it definitily crosby is great and all but you are looking at so much more talent with the other picks. the diff in points beween the two will be about 30 pts at most now that OV is on a playoff team with Backstrom, Semin and Nylander they are comapirable to the pens as far as surrounding talent with talent. I would ask for another roster player or his third rounder in the this years draft. in my league tht was cheecho a cheep 50 goal scoerer...that is def worth it.
Ya...I countered with his 3rd rounder in this years draft as well.

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Ya...I countered with his 3rd rounder in this years draft as well.
well done then i think that you are going to get a great deal if they accept.

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No. Dont trade Sidney Crosby.
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Ya...I countered with his 3rd rounder in this years draft as well.
Honestly, trading Crosby will be a huge mistake.
In a dynasty league you always find rookies / new players having breakthrough seasons at the beginning of the year....what exactly will a 3rd / 5th rounder add to your team?

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Honestly, trading Crosby will be a huge mistake.
In a dynasty league you always find rookies / new players having breakthrough seasons at the beginning of the year....what exactly will a 3rd / 5th rounder add to your team?
I disagree...Crosby is only one player, granted the best in the world, but I'll still be getting the 2nd best player, plus extra picks. This is a 40 round draft. I think a 3rd rounder (the 2nd of the round) could add a lot to the team plus the extra picks next year.

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do it

even if sid outscores AO by 30 points how much of a difference would it make? i have no idea how a keeper league works though..

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I disagree...Crosby is only one player, granted the best in the world, but I'll still be getting the 2nd best player, plus extra picks. This is a 40 round draft. I think a 3rd rounder (the 2nd of the round) could add a lot to the team plus the extra picks next year.
You could be talking about a player like Havlat, Jokinen, etc, depending on how many teams are in your league.

I'd insist upon high picks in the inaugural draft, rather than prospect picks at the end of the year, even if they're first round picks. If this person is trading to get Crosby, they'll likely be in the upper eschelon, lowering their position for prospect picks (which are always a gamble anyway).

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I disagree...Crosby is only one player, granted the best in the world, but I'll still be getting the 2nd best player, plus extra picks. This is a 40 round draft. I think a 3rd rounder (the 2nd of the round) could add a lot to the team plus the extra picks next year.
So you're willing to trade a player who can potentially get close to 200 points a year for a guy that'll max out around 110 at most?

Wow.....good luck with that.

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WOW, you people are putting way too much stock into crosby. I dont care if he is the best player in the league..its still a 3 for 1 deal in which 1 of those 3 is AO. You take this deal and run.

Its AO plus a 1st and 2nd rounder next year....If sid outscores on avg AO by 30 pts you dont think youre going to get that 30 plus a TON more with a 1st and 2rd rd player?

Realistically, if this was from scratch the deal could look something like this...

Sid for A0 + Gaborik + Horton (Gaborik being the 1st rd pick, Horton being the second)

Thats about 300 pts for your team...why in the world wouldnt you do that.

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So you're willing to trade a player who can potentially get close to 200 points a year for a guy that'll max out around 110 at most?

Wow.....good luck with that.
No because its not a straight up trade. If he accepts my counter, I'm getting 3 extra picks. And as great as Crosby is, I'm not sure he is going to be scoring 200 pts a year. Crosby has a career high of 120 pts. Gretzky already had reached 160 pts at the same age. Sure he could do it. Buts its not likely IMO.

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Your better off drafting crosby and trading him for depth if you find you need it.

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How many players do you keep at the end of the season? Because that can change the value of those two picks.

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How many players do you keep at the end of the season? Because that can change the value of those two picks.
If you protect 3 players each then those picks next year are more like 4th and 5th round picks.

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No because its not a straight up trade. If he accepts my counter, I'm getting 3 extra picks. And as great as Crosby is, I'm not sure he is going to be scoring 200 pts a year. Crosby has a career high of 120 pts. Gretzky already had reached 160 pts at the same age. Sure he could do it. Buts its not likely IMO.
But at the same token you could draft players like Kessel / Brule / Johnson / Mueller etc. in the late rounds because everyone will be stacking up on top end talent.

You have to remember.....this is a Dynasty League....you don't just think of the present situation. You have to think long term and having the best player in the game is the best way to build your franchise.

Crosby will get more assists then Ovechkin will get points most years...

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WOW, you people are putting way too much stock into crosby. I dont care if he is the best player in the league..its still a 3 for 1 deal in which 1 of those 3 is AO. You take this deal and run.
Are those prospects that much better than players you can grab off of the wires? (when you factor in waivers trades are always for even numbers). In that case... pass.

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WOW, you people are putting way too much stock into crosby. I dont care if he is the best player in the league..its still a 3 for 1 deal in which 1 of those 3 is AO. You take this deal and run.

Its AO plus a 1st and 2nd rounder next year....If sid outscores on avg AO by 30 pts you dont think youre going to get that 30 plus a TON more with a 1st and 2rd rd player?

Realistically, if this was from scratch the deal could look something like this...

Sid for A0 + Gaborik + Horton (Gaborik being the 1st rd pick, Horton being the second)

Thats about 300 pts for your team...why in the world wouldnt you do that.
Why wouldn't Gaborik go in THIS year's draft since the picks were for next year? Horton should go in this years draft too.

In any event I love AO but he isn't going to put up over 150 like I think Sid will next year. Sid is the best player and arguably the strongest on his legs. AO isn't the second best in the NHL either. He's about to crack elite status with the Joe T's, Crosby's etc.

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I would do that trade. Crosby is getting severly overrated here. Ovechkin + Jokinen >>>> Crosby

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So you're willing to trade a player who can potentially get close to 200 points a year for a guy that'll max out around 110 at most?

Wow.....good luck with that.
are you serious??? 200 points is insaine. that wont happen again. that was in a differnt age the most he gets is 150and that is laughable. plus if your leage has salary cap having over 9 mill in player is going to be rough

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