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08-20-2007, 03:14 PM
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Finland's 2010-2011 crop... Pulkkinen and Granlund

I'm still very curious about...
Teemu Pulkkinen
Mikael Granlund
Markus Granlund

Could someone give me an idea of who they are. I know that Pulkkinen is looking very strong but could someone give a little info on these guys? Maybe some pictures or some idea of how they'll progress, etc.

Thanks!

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08-21-2007, 12:11 PM
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More you hype, more it will hurt you when none of them makes it. I'm not even convinced on Rajala's talent, we need to see him more. Also I'd like to see some professional opinions or analyzises about him, about all of them. And I hope none of them reads these boards, because then it's goodbye NHL...

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08-21-2007, 01:58 PM
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Im with ruanda on this one

afterall gordon bombay was a stud in minor hockey look where he ended up

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08-31-2007, 02:35 AM
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Any chance to see either in junior A this season?

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I just came home the KJT - Jokerit B-Junior game where Pulkkinen was playing and *******, he's good. He's a year younger than almost everyone else and he still stands out. The most obvious thing about him is his speed. He's fast and strong with puck. Nice passes all through the game but most of all he looks like a goalscorer.

Although I have to say the opposition tonight wasn't exactly top class. Jokerit won the game 11-0. Pulkkinen with 3+1. Especially the second goal was nice individial effort. I left after the second period so I didn't see the third goal. It will be nice to see how he manage against tougher opposition.

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10-05-2007, 09:00 AM
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I have seen one game where Mikael Granlund was played in, and i watched him very accurately. He is small but have good balance and he reminds me Phil Kessel.

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10-15-2007, 04:07 AM
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DONSKOI Joonas 13.04.1992 Raahe 181 68 FIN R Kärpät

8 games 9+5=14

GRANLUND Mikael H 26.02.1992 Oulu 175 74 FIN L Kärpät

8 games 4+5=9
That's what happens when someone is so hyped so early. Someone else comes from behind, develops just a bit later. This Donskoi kids seems to have better size (although he's 6 kg lighter... how thin is this guy?) so that might help him at that level (might help him later as well, if his skating is good enough). Haven't really seen either play so can't comment too much on that, but I can say it's still early.

Pulkkinen still seems to clearly be the top of that age class though.

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Quick Google search found these for Pulkkinen.



Last edited by Riggs: 10-17-2007 at 06:34 AM. Reason: Wrong pic
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10-15-2007, 09:35 PM
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Where's pulkkinen sitting now stats wise?

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Mikael Granlund


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10-16-2007, 02:03 AM
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Where's pulkkinen sitting now stats wise?

Leading the league in scoring, 9 games, 13+7=20

Next there's a few players in 16 points, most notably Rajala who's only played 7 games and is 6+10 (the others are Tyrväinen, 9gp 4+12 and Pusa, 8gp 7+9). So Rajala still has better scoring pace than Pulkkinen, but he's older as well.

Pulkkinen's low number of assists might seem a bit worrying to some, although maybe it's just that he doesn't need to pass because he always scores Hard to tell, I've still yet to see him actually play even though I've been meaning to for a while now.

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10-16-2007, 04:47 PM
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I've been able to watch Donskoi's "career" from the beginning, and I'm impressed. That guy works really hard to reach his own targets. His former coach said things like "Never gets tired of training" about him. Has soft hands and is fast and he's not afraid to play physical. Ovechkin-style player. Shot is his weakness. But watch out, I think he's going to be the best 92-born in Finland.

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10-20-2007, 11:20 AM
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I've been able to watch Donskoi's "career" from the beginning, and I'm impressed. That guy works really hard to reach his own targets. His former coach said things like "Never gets tired of training" about him. Has soft hands and is fast and he's not afraid to play physical. Ovechkin-style player. Shot is his weakness. But watch out, I think he's going to be the best 92-born in Finland.
Pulkkinen is a 92 right?

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10-20-2007, 12:27 PM
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Yes he is. Even though Pulkkinen is really great player, I still believe that Donskoi will be as good as Pulkkinen.

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10-20-2007, 03:37 PM
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It's great to see that Rajala now plays regularly for the A-Jrs.

Today he had 2+1 in Ilves' 3-5 loss!
Overall stats are 6 points in 7 games!

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10-21-2007, 12:25 PM
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Ok, went today to watch Rajala(Ilves-HPK a-juniors SM-league). First things first, don't overhype him. Since after seeing this game(just one game and against a lot older players, yes, but...) he have potential, but he have a lot to go. Firstly he have good speed, better than most of players today and they prolly have at least more power in their legs, etc. He can turn pretty nicely and he have some tricks too.

So I would give +:

+good speed
+can see the rink quite well
+good backchecking
+have good hands
+not bad in corners(not too good either to) no matter his size
+Good wristshot ank ok slapshot(didn't use it much tho)

And -:

-Seems to be nervous in this level, can't control puck so well because of that.
-Really bad in openings in own area(gave one goal to HPK because of that)

All in all, nothing superb yet. He didn't play too much PP. Ask if have any questions, will check him more in the future.

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10-22-2007, 09:47 AM
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So I'll be likely to watch next friday and/or saturday Ilves-HIFK and/or Ilves-Jokerit. Any who is more familiar with teams knows who are top players in Jokerit&HIFK, do their A-juniors have any undrafted prospects?

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10-28-2007, 08:08 AM
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Pulkkinen, Donskoi and Mikael Granlund were all selected for the U-16 national teams that will face each other and Germany.

The "actual" B-junior league got under way and Pulkkinen scored a hat trick inside the first 10 minutes against Espoo Blues. He added a fourth as Jokerit won 6-2.

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Pulkkinen, Donskoi and Mikael Granlund were all selected for the U-16 national teams that will face each other and Germany.
They were all selected for the U-17 team against Czech Republic in this month. There are also Petteri Halinen (over 190cm) 1992 born very talented forward whose playing there also.
http://www.finhockey.fi/taustasivut/...to/?num=338639

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Yes he is. Even though Pulkkinen is really great player, I still believe that Donskoi will be as good as Pulkkinen.
I wouldn't be surprised if this would happen. Donskoi has allways been good but after he moved to Oulu and to the same line with Granlund he has been unstoppable. The first line on the finnish U-16 team was pretty dominating, with Pulkkinen - Granlund - Donskoi on the line they played pretty well together.

The younger Granlund is way to overhyped. He isn't anything special. But I'm not saying that he is bad. Yes, he has some potential to develope to a good player.

People seeme to totally forget about Joni Karjalainen. Everybody is talking about Rajala but I think that Karjalainen is much better than Rajala. Karjalainen have been playing whole season in IFK A-juniors on the first line. I have been very surprised how well he has played with the big boys.

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11-06-2007, 04:02 PM
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People seeme to totally forget about Joni Karjalainen. Everybody is talking about Rajala but I think that Karjalainen is much better than Rajala. Karjalainen have been playing whole season in IFK A-juniors on the first line. I have been very surprised how well he has played with the big boys.
Well I'm not forgetting at least after I saw him this season. But saying he is "much better than Rajala" is just bs. Just looking points and you can see that Rajala has just 2 less points in 5 less games than Karjalainen. And that's with a less role in Ilves than Karjalainen has in IFK. He needs a lot more size as well. He is even smaller than Rajala, etc.

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11-10-2007, 06:46 AM
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Finland won a U17 game against the Czech 8-5.

Pulkkinen with 2+1 and Granlund with 0+3. Also Donskoi scored a goal.

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Who's Joonas Nattinen? He has good size for 91 born(6'2/176), was good at Hlinka Memorial, and yesterday scored 5 points for U18 Team against Swiss.

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Finland won a U17 game against the Czech 8-5.

Pulkkinen with 2+1 and Granlund with 0+3. Also Donskoi scored a goal.
Finland won the third game against Czech 7-2. The scoring leader list from these three Finland-Chech is pretty one-sided:
1 KARJALAINEN Joni Finland 3 4+3=7 -2 91-born
2 PULKKINEN Teemu Finland 3 3+3=6 -3 92-born
3 LAAKSONEN Jere Finland 3 1+5=6 -1 91-born
4 GRANLUND Mikael Finland 3 1+4=5 1 92-born
5 HAULA Erik Finland 3 2+2=4 1 91-born

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Who's Joonas Nattinen? He has good size for 91 born(6'2/176), was good at Hlinka Memorial, and yesterday scored 5 points for U18 Team against Swiss.
Can't say much since he is still playing in B-juniors while rest of top 91's are playing already in A-juniors. But maybe that still tells something about him.

Jormakka(who was hyped like 3 years ago A LOT) had today couple of goals. We'll see what happens in the future with another smallish guy...

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