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08-27-2007, 06:20 PM
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Comparisons between humans is always futile. Every prospect needs different lengths of time to develop, and just cos he's not NHL ready at 20, doesn't mean he's not going to be when he's 22/23. Look how many teen stars are finished by the time they're 30, just because of too much hockey and injuries. Give the lad a chance to develop and don't write him off just yet.

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08-27-2007, 06:22 PM
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WHy even bother stretch the gist of already thin commentary? It makes nothing more than white noise that breeds more white noise and ruins way too many threads around here.

Horcoff wasn't a healthy scratch, he didnt play on the 4th line for a large chuck of the season, Horcoff has been a #1 center on his team for multiple seasons. Where are you going with that exactly?

Its obvious she meant that RS struggles are likely because RS isnt ready yet, and not for other verious excuses. If you don't buy into that... make an effort to tell us why. Making comments like you did adds nothing and begs for more of the same.

Benching is more used as motivator and not a reflection of the player.

The point of Schremp being benched by multiple coaches is weak and that's what I was trying to make. Every good player gets benched at some point. I'm sure Horcoff was benched at some point in time in every level he has played at. Even Brodziak was a healthy scratch a couple times last year.

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08-27-2007, 06:24 PM
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Lowe should go after Penner
Lowe should go after Souray
Probably a little early to call these hits.

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08-27-2007, 06:25 PM
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I've been through this before in the thread, but to summarize: everyone has an opinion -
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08-27-2007, 06:26 PM
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What's the meaning of life again?

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08-27-2007, 06:29 PM
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I'm not making my statements as fact, I'm making them as opinion. I've been through this before in the thread, but to summarize: everyone has an opinion -- mine is based on the stat analyses I've seen, the observations I've made, the gut feelings I have. That said, it is no more valid (barring ridiculous statements like he'll score 100 goals per season, etc.) than the opinion of JonQuixote, BBO, or yourself. Because until something happens, it is just speculation.
Again, I'm not attacking or accusing you, we went over this in a thread last night. You need to stop being so defensive. I don't think I'm right or your wrong or your right and I'm wrong.

Usually when I skip a line and start a new paragraph I'm done with your quote, I'll try and be more clear but just so you know in the future.

The part I was going to bold "schremp covering the 25th overall bet" was already bolded... but my point to you was that he was drafted as the 3rd most talented player in the draft..

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Again, I'm not attacking or accusing you, we went over this in a thread last night. You need to stop being so defensive. I don't think I'm right or your wrong or your right and I'm wrong.

Usually when I skip a line and start a new paragraph I'm done with your quote, I'll try and be more clear but just so you know in the future.
Gotcha. My apologies.

But yes, in the future, it might help if you specify that you are no longer referring to someone's quote.


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Jello?

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Ah man...and I brought my towel and everything!

I'm late to every party that matters.

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08-27-2007, 06:53 PM
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Ah man...and I brought my towel and everything!

I'm late to every party that matters.
That's OK, Digger. You're just being fashionably late. Just bring that supermodel of yours (what was her name, Keenan or something?) and it's all good.

Just don't get stuck on the Whitemud listening to A-Ha again.

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Nobody thinks that, Bryan. It's just that some of us believe the Oilers have better options for the skill slots. And then there's Cogliano coming. Schremp's window of opportunity is closing, and because he doesn't have as wide a range of skills as a guy like Pouliot there are fewer slots available.

Schremp could end up outscoring Pouliot and not be as valuable. That was certainly the relationship between Horcoff and Comrie when they were teammates.
That's when you see how a player can do alot to improve and still be the victim of a numbers game. Schremp was a victim his first TC because I think Oilers management were really pushing to have him on the team. And now, RS may still be a victim again this season with Nilsson and/or Cogliano. Next year, who knows. Maybe Gagner?

I wonder at this point and time if Lowe is entertaining the idea of trading Schremp? He does have a lot of skill and maybe he could find a team that would bite. I just have hard time believing that with the proper coaching and guidance, he could be a player in this league.

One player I comparing him (I'm bad at this however) is Corey Locke. I saw Locke play alot for the '67s and I thought he'd make a smooth transition with the Habs. Not quite.

BTW, I read your blog everyday LT. Agree or disagree with you, it's always informative.

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One player I comparing him (I'm bad at this however) is Corey Locke. I saw Locke play alot for the '67s and I thought he'd make a smooth transition with the Habs. Not quite.
If Schremp turns out to be another Corey Locke, we're in trouble imo.

I'm hoping he's more of a Tomas Plekanec (maybe a bit high) or Matt Cullen.

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08-27-2007, 07:28 PM
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I even brought my book of Vogon poetry.
When I move to Australia in two months

you will get my final post

not many others will

(that is right--about 2 months I will be goine from this place)

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08-27-2007, 07:30 PM
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Are we to say JFJ has no NHL potential just because he has **** the bed in the NHL so far?

No one, ever, has played worse in the NHL than JFJ, that said, he still has top 6 potential.
I'm not sure Jacques ever had top 6 potential.

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I'm not sure Jacques ever had top 6 potential.
I think he did, in a Torres/Hartnell kind of way. 40-50 points and very tough to play against.

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I think he did, in a Torres/Hartnell kind of way. 40-50 points and very tough to play against.
I agree with that, however due to his slow transition to the NHL thus far it's probably 2-3+ years away.

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08-27-2007, 08:43 PM
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Probably a little early to call these hits.
I called it, none of the bloggers likley called it. I was campaigning for both players, from prior to the UFA season started for Souray and after we took a run at Vanek for Penner. That must mean that our GM is just as dumb as I am in these 2 instances.

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08-27-2007, 08:58 PM
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I called it, none of the bloggers likley called it. I was campaigning for both players, from prior to the UFA season started for Souray and after we took a run at Vanek for Penner. That must mean that our GM is just as dumb as I am in these 2 instances.
Its not a given that these will be good moves is what he is saying.

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I called it, none of the bloggers likley called it. I was campaigning for both players, from prior to the UFA season started for Souray and after we took a run at Vanek for Penner. That must mean that our GM is just as dumb as I am in these 2 instances.
I can promise you none of the bloggers called Souray and Penner.

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08-27-2007, 09:25 PM
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Its not a given that these will be good moves is what he is saying.
That's fine, but the bottom line is that to my knowledge most of the blogger types wouldn't want either player 1/2 as much as I did. I got very lucky that these 2 moves panned out in the same fashion that I would've gone about them. It was a fluke, however IMO it shows that I may have a similar vision as Lowe (at least in terms of plans B, C, etc!!!)

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Horcoff was benched last year by macT... he must be a cancer
You aren't seriously comparing ONE benching with the several benches Schremp has received in his career before at a lesser level than the NHL.

I want Schremp to succeed as much as anybody but glossing over his problems and then blaming the coaches for it is a tad ridiculous.

If it was one coach and one time that argument would hold merit but Schremp has not only been benched during games but watched games from the press box on more than one occasion at less than an NHL level.

If he can't do it in Junior or the AHL he isn't suddenly going to be successful at the NHL level.

If he doesn't learn to be more than a one -sided, dimensional player he will not be successful in the NHL.

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