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09-06-2007, 08:49 PM
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09-06-2007, 09:42 PM
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We still need 2 more to make 28. If we went with 26 teams, we would need to go with conference playoffs, rather than division as in the past. Top 3 get byes and bottom 10 meet in the first round to take us to 16 for round two.

Spitfire11 and all other GMs from #7 that don't have a team have declined for this draft.

My thoughts on the 6 minor league starters option are as follows:
It would take 140 players out of the MLD pool with 28 teams, none of which would be goalies. Teams joining the draft could take their 6 players with them, and new GMs could take a 6 from a none participating team, thus reducing the pool hit to 80 for a 10 team MLD. There were more than 80 previously drafted players left unselected at the end of the last MLD.

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09-06-2007, 09:52 PM
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So far we have 11 Canadian and 11 American teams! A nice split of conferences. We could go with geographic conferences combined with random divisions.

Canadian teams:

Toronto Maple Leafs
Montreal Wanderers
Edmonton Oilers
Montreal Canadiens
Victoria Cougars
Halifax RCAF
Guelph Biltmores
Ottawa 67s
Winnipeg Jets
Flin Flon Bombers
Portage la Prairie Plains

American teams:

New Jersey Devils
Boston Bruins
Oakland Seals
Nanaimo Clippers
Detroit Falcons
Dallas Blackhawks
New York Rangers
New York Raiders
St. Louis Eagles
Seattle Thunderbirds
Gwinnett Gladiators

International teams:

Dubai Mighty Camels

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09-06-2007, 10:16 PM
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09-06-2007, 10:31 PM
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For those answering D, I'm curious. At the end of 22 rounds (with a minimum of 26 general managers involved), are you really going to be interested in going another 6 rounds for players that really have no business being in an All-Time Draft?

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09-06-2007, 10:40 PM
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are you really going to be interested in going another 6 rounds for players that really have no business being in an All-Time Draft?
see the minor league draft we just had: there are a couple of dozen good picks that didn't go in the last 28-team all-time draft. (Joe Watson, Yuri Liapkin, Gerry Mcneil, Anatoli Tarasov, Rod Seiling, Frank Finnigan, Tumba Johansson, Marc Tardiff, Corb Denneny, Camille Henry, Pit Martin, Don Lever, Dmitri Yushkevich, Tony Granato, Dave Schultz, Ken Hitchcock, Leo Labine, Tom McKegney, Bill Goldsworthy, etc)

that said, it would be nice to keep players meant for the farm in the minor league draft


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09-06-2007, 11:48 PM
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Shall I post a recruitment post in the history section? Fill those last two spots? Or wait on the remaining vets?

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09-07-2007, 01:53 AM
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So far we have 11 Canadian and 11 American teams! A nice split of conferences. We could go with geographic conferences combined with random divisions.

Canadian teams:

Toronto Maple Leafs
Montreal Wanderers
Edmonton Oilers
Montreal Canadiens
Victoria Cougars
Halifax RCAF
Guelph Biltmores
Ottawa 67s
Winnipeg Jets
Flin Flon Bombers
Portage la Prairie Plains

American teams:

New Jersey Devils
Boston Bruins
Oakland Seals
Nanaimo Clippers
Detroit Falcons
Dallas Blackhawks
New York Rangers
New York Raiders
St. Louis Eagles
Seattle Thunderbirds
Gwinnett Gladiators

International teams:

Dubai Mighty Camels
I really like this idea; Habs vs. Yanks is good stuff. If we get support for this idea, the GMs with unnamed teams can maybe try to balance the geography so that we get a 13/14 split (or 13/12) and can match Dubai to the short conference.

Nalyd - I vote for recruitment, but twenty six teams is big enough if it comes to that. If we haven't gotten any positive answers back by, say, Monday, then we should probably just move forward with 26.

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09-07-2007, 01:57 AM
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American teams:

New Jersey Devils
Boston Bruins
Oakland Seals
Nanaimo Clippers
Detroit Falcons
Dallas Blackhawks
New York Rangers
New York Raiders
St. Louis Eagles
Seattle Thunderbirds
Gwinnett Gladiators
I think you got this one wrong, VI, but we can still balance the conferences if the undecided GMs will play ball.

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09-07-2007, 02:49 AM
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If it makes division alignment better I can change my team name. I just need to look for something funny or weird.

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09-07-2007, 03:11 AM
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If it makes division alignment better I can change my team name. I just need to look for something funny or weird.
If we need another American team (sorta looks like it at this point), I'm a big fan of the Rockford IceHogs. The San Francisco Spiders are also a very solid choice, though an Oakland - San Francisco rivalry might get bloody.

If you want something else funny and/or wierd, Bushparty is a great place to look, and most of the really bad ones are, naturally, American minor league teams.

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09-07-2007, 03:20 AM
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or we can get more international teams and have Canada vs the world.

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09-07-2007, 05:30 AM
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the biggest advantage of having canadian vs. non-canadian conference is that you know in a microsecond whether a player picked will be a threat to your team in regualr season standings or rounds of the playoffs (no one worries about the final: whatever team makes it to the final expects a 50/50 chance once there). for instance, if you have an american team and a canadian team g.m. picks Stevens you can immediately sigh in relief at having that hitter in the other conference!

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09-07-2007, 07:09 AM
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09-07-2007, 07:37 AM
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If we need another American team (sorta looks like it at this point), I'm a big fan of the Rockford IceHogs. The San Francisco Spiders are also a very solid choice, though an Oakland - San Francisco rivalry might get bloody.

If you want something else funny and/or wierd, Bushparty is a great place to look, and most of the really bad ones are, naturally, American minor league teams.
There are some goodies there. My thought was Omaha Ak-Sar-Ben but I think I reserve that for the Minor League draft.

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09-07-2007, 07:56 AM
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The Central Hockey League has some real humdingers:

Shreveport Mudbugs
Texas Brahmas
Youngstown SteelHounds
Rocky Mountain Rage
Austin Ice Bats
Amarillo Gorillas
New Mexico Scorpions
Odessa Jackalopes

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Montreal Wanderers

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09-07-2007, 09:37 AM
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So Spit and #66 are out? That's too bad. They've been really good GMs. You know that they're going to assemble quality teams. And they don't talk too much, either.

Disappointed to hear that pwnasaurus won't be back, either. He was a diligent and reliable GM, too, and really seemed to enjoy this.

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09-07-2007, 10:51 AM
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I'll move in the Habbies territory with this one with a franchise that has won nothing in its first incarnation (losing in the Finals of the Memorial Cup in 1982, though), but has won the 2000 Mem Cup under the moniker "Océanic de Rimouski". They drafted two future Hart Winners to the NHL with José Theodore (when they were the Lynx de St-Jean) and Sidney Crosby (as Océanic de Rimouski) with their "later incarnations", and are actually the first team that I went to see at an Arena -- when they were named les Castors de St-Jean.

Castors de Sherbrooke

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09-07-2007, 11:05 AM
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This means the two unnamed teams would have to be non-Canadian for the Canada vs. world plan to work.

...and BM, if we haven't gotten two solid responses in Nalyd's advertizement thread on the history board by the end of the day, why don't we just hold the lottery and go ahead with 26 teams? This would allow us to start the first round a week from tomorrow, and conference playoffs are more NHL-like, anyway. It doesn't really look like there's much untapped interest over there. I think all of the posters who go onto that board with any regularity already know about the All Time Draft, anyway.


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09-07-2007, 01:31 PM
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I think you got this one wrong, VI, but we can still balance the conferences if the undecided GMs will play ball.
Yeah, that's right, thanks for catching it. Though I guess we're close enough to the 49th parallel to make it justifiable.

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This means the two unnamed teams would have to be non-Canadian for the Canada vs. world plan to work.

...and BM, if we haven't gotten two solid responses in Nalyd's advertizement thread on the history board by the end of the day, why don't we just hold the lottery and go ahead with 26 teams? This would allow us to start the first round a week from tomorrow, and conference playoffs are more NHL-like, anyway. It doesn't really look like there's much untapped interest over there. I think all of the posters who go onto that board with any regularity already know about the All Time Draft, anyway.

Agreed. Lets get on with the draft spots lottery.

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09-07-2007, 02:06 PM
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We could go with geographic conferences combined with random divisions.
east vs. west is the easiest to do if more teams want to be canadian because the cut-off point can move around, As of now: 12 in the West, 12 in the East, with Ottawa as the cut-off point

Eastern teams:

Ottawa 67s
Montreal Wanderers
Montreal Canadiens
Castors de Sherbrooke
Halifax RCAF
Dartmouth Subways
New Jersey Devils
Boston Bruins
New York Rangers
New York Raiders
Gwinnett Gladiators
Dubai Mighty Camels

Western teams:

Edmonton Oilers
Victoria Cougars
Winnipeg Jets
Flin Flon Bombers
Portage la Prairie Plains
Toronto Maple Leafs
Guelph Biltmores
Oakland Seals
Nanaimo Clippers
Detroit Falcons
Dallas Blackhawks
St. Louis Eagles
Seattle Thunderbirds

Then divisions can still be random except to ensure that only one Montreal aned one New York team per division.


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Then divisions can still be random except to ensure that only one Montreal aned one New York team per division.
And deny a natural rivalry? I' play it the opposite and ensure Subway series and Metro series.

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And deny a natural rivalry? I' play it the opposite and ensure Subway series and Metro series.
true,... so complete random divisions might result in one of those

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