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01-07-2004, 10:19 AM
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Hearing set for Sundin

From tsn.ca:

Sundin faces disciplinary hearing


TSN.ca Staff


1/7/2004

Mats Sundin dodged a bullet on Tuesday night. He wasn't so fortunate today.



TSN has learned the NHL has scheduled a disciplinary hearing with Sundin this afternoon as a result of the Maple Leaf captain throwing his stick into the crowd in last night's game against Nashville at the Air Canada Centre. It's possible Sundin could be fined or suspended for his actions.


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01-07-2004, 10:24 AM
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Hey it was a nice gesture for Sundin to give the guy a stick after almost impaling him.

You know what? I'm sick of the officials calling half of the penalities in the NHL. For every Sundin there is a Hemsky, who gets away with things.

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Like I said in on the Leafs board, he'll be fined and rightfully so. If it were to go any further then that considering it was clearly a accident then Colin Campbell is even dumber then I think because he's let much worse go this season.

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Gaborik use to throw his sticks (all though in tact!) out of the rink after scoring a GW goal...I believe he wasn't ever fined.

 
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that's stupid . shame on the nhl .

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The guy in the crowd got a one piece stick worth atleast $150, may or may not have been game used and then autographed by Sundin...lucky *******...course also had good seats...

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Brandon Sugden of the ECHL Peoria Rivermen was BANNED for LIFE for pulling the exact same stunt a few years back. The decision was eventually appealled successfully a few years later.

Definitely a BUSH league stunt by Sundin. Hope they throw the book at him.


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Brandon Sugden of the ECHL Peoria Rivermen was BANNED for LIFE for pulling the exact same stunt a few years back. The decision was eventually appealled successfully a few years later.

Definitely a BUSH league stunt by Sundin. Hope they throw the book at him.

Agree. Someone could have been seriously injured when Sundin threw that stick. Remember what happened to that little girl in Columbus a couple of years ago.

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Brandon Sugden of the ECHL Peoria Rivermen was BANNED for LIFE for pulling the exact same stunt a few years back. The decision was eventually appealled successfully a few years later.

Definitely a BUSH league stunt by Sundin. Hope they throw the book at him.


"Sundin banned for life"

...that has quite a nice ring to it actually

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Another classic example of bad officiating. *I can hear Van coming to defend them as I speak * Sundin should have been booted after the stunt, but instead, he got off scotch free. Then, he set up the two come back goals that won the game for the Mapleleafs. Ah well, I guess after the millionth missed/bad call, I become dead to the stupidity and unawareness of NHL officials.

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The guy in the crowd got a one piece stick worth atleast $150, may or may not have been game used and then autographed by Sundin...lucky *******...course also had good seats...
...and subsequently sold it after the game for $600.00

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too little, too late. the refs realize that they can't toss a marquee player in a 0-0 game. sundin then figures into both toronto goals, nashville loses. gee, i wonder what would have happened if say, scott walker did the same thing in the same game. misconduct. i KNEW this would happen.
too little, too late.

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Another classic example of bad officiating. *I can hear Van coming to defend them as I speak * Sundin should have been booted after the stunt, but instead, he got off scotch free. Then, he set up the two come back goals that won the game for the Mapleleafs. Ah well, I guess after the millionth missed/bad call, I become dead to the stupidity and unawareness of NHL officials.
Neither ref saw the incident. One of the linesman did but on this type of call they aren't able to intervene.

For the most part, the whole game was very poorly officiated for both teams. Players from both sides commented on it, and the press had a field day. Van, if he saw last nights game would not be able to defend this one. It was almost like there were two young refs on the ice trying to lay the law their way, and if you didn't like it, sit in the box. (Fitzy's penalty was an example of that, he was hardly animated in his questioning after the second period, but got to chill out in the sin bin.)

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Brandon Sugden of the ECHL Peoria Rivermen was BANNED for LIFE for pulling the exact same stunt a few years back. The decision was eventually appealled successfully a few years later.

Definitely a BUSH league stunt by Sundin. Hope they throw the book at him.


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Welcome to the new sport of communist hockey. Don't hit, don't grab, don't fight, don't cheer after a goal, don't taunt the other team off the ice, don't say anything bad about the officials, don't say anything bad about the NHL, don't comment on the CBA, don't, don't, don't.

You forgot: don't toss your broken stick out of anger into a crowd of people where someone could lose an eye or worse.

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While I think two and a half years out of professional hockey is excessive, Sundin's crime is still a serious matter.

A one year suspension should be at least considered.

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While I think two and a half years out of professional hockey is excessive, Sundin's crime is still a serious matter.

A one year suspension should be at least considered.

Very true. Such a hideous crime against humanity deserves the severest of scrutiny. A tribunal needs to be set up, with 12 Finns at the helm.

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Is Sundin getting hammered because he is a known player, a marquee player, or would they do this to anyone else? I mean like I said, Marian Gaborik use to toss his stick into the crowd after scoring a game winning goal or something. Fans loved it. He also gave out his sticks or did. I don't know if he still does.

If Sundin gets hit with a suspension and a fine, I'll really question why the NHL does what it does after looking the other way on some questionable hits this year.

 
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While I think two and a half years out of professional hockey is excessive, Sundin's crime is still a serious matter.

A one year suspension should be at least considered.

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A one year suspension should be at least considered.
How about suspending him next year --> during the lockout/strike??

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You know, they say the Leafs ***** and moan, but the Predators are the whiniest bunch of management Ihave ever seen..

"Bertuzzi is too big to handle.. he cheats"

"Sundin should've gotten a penalty"

You know what. If you can't compete why is that the officials fault? Christ I am so sick of this horse ****!!

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You know, they say the Leafs ***** and moan, but the Predators are the whiniest bunch of management Ihave ever seen..

"Bertuzzi is too big to handle.. he cheats"

"Sundin should've gotten a penalty"

You know what. If you can't compete why is that the officials fault? Christ I am so sick of this horse ****!!
Where has Predators Management said those things?

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Welcome to the new sport of communist hockey. Don't hit, don't grab, don't fight, don't cheer after a goal, don't taunt the other team off the ice, don't say anything bad about the officials, don't say anything bad about the NHL, don't comment on the CBA, don't, don't, don't.
Are you suggesting that hurling an object like a stick into a crowd of people is a "capitalistic" move?

Communistic, Capitalistic, Facist, etc., no league can condone an act that potentially endangers it's paying customers. Unless of course one likewise believes that fans should be allowed to litter the ice.

Seems to me it's called common sense.

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Like I said in on the Leafs board, he'll be fined and rightfully so. If it were to go any further then that considering it was clearly a accident then Colin Campbell is even dumber then I think because he's let much worse go this season.
I agree with you that a fine is appropriate and nothing more. And, of course, Sundin wouldn't want to injure anyone. But do you really think it was "accidental"? I think it was just a spur-of-the-moment action that was ill-conceived, but not unintentional.


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A year ban? Can't see it.

Maximum he'd get is a game and thats simply on the grounds that he could have got a game misconduct.

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