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09-14-2007, 10:58 AM
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i think this line could do some damage in camp....

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what if jessiman makes the team, he could?
IMO he won't make the team out of camp. To me his best chance is as a call up from the Pack.

edit: Kasper has a better chance than Jessiman does.

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i think this line could do some damage in camp....
I think so as well, that seems to be the line of guys with real potential to crack the lineup. Not to say that anybody else who really impresses in camp does not have a shot, but this seems to be who the Organization is looking at with a good chance right now.

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09-14-2007, 12:25 PM
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Sauer is already establishing a physical presence. Good to hear that Orr and Hollweg are playing well.

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Mark Smith will surprise people, I think. He is the type of player who plays a tough, gritty game, who gives a lot of effort, and has enough skill that he isn't completely out of place when asked to fill in on the first line with a Joe Thornton, for instance. He will push Betts and the other lower-line players, and may even make the squad and free up an asset for trade. He could be the type of player to come in and take the 3rd-line center role if one of the youngsters do not claim it through their play. Very good on faceoffs, good defensively, gritty, hands not made of stone...

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09-14-2007, 12:43 PM
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Mark Smith will surprise people, I think.
The question really becomes is he here to push Betts or if he performs to the level of a 4th line center, will Renney install Betts as the 3rd line center?

If Smith performs much better than Betts and takes his spot, that is one thing. If there is a chance of both Betts and Smith being in the lineup at the same time, then that is poor planning.

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The big guns were on the ice for their first practice session of camp. As expected, Jagr lined up with Gomez and Hossa, and Drury centered Avery and Shanahan. The latter trio, which looks like a natural combination, lit up Henrik Lundqvist, who couldn't seem to stop any shots -- he conferred with Benoit Allaire during a break and did better in the second half.

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09-14-2007, 12:49 PM
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The big guns were on the ice for their first practice session of camp. As expected, Jagr lined up with Gomez and Hossa, and Drury centered Avery and Shanahan. The latter trio, which looks like a natural combination, lit up Henrik Lundqvist, who couldn't seem to stop any shots -- he conferred with Benoit Allaire during a break and did better in the second half.

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Good god. It's the first day of camp! I'll worry about this if it's a trend, not during the first scrimmage.

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09-14-2007, 12:53 PM
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Good god. It's the first day of camp! I'll worry about this if it's a trend, not during the first scrimmage.
just reporting news, jesus....and i guess that the line of avery - drury and shanny looking good doesn't matter either....

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just reporting news, jesus....and i guess that the line of avery - drury and shanny looking good doesn't matter either....

Oh, that was directed at BB, not at you Nich.

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i think this line could do some damage in camp....
yes it could, but it'd never get the chance to ice in regular season without injuries as it'd mean alot of people who are integral to the team wouldnt be playing...

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Why did you quote Nich then?

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well ok then

just remember that yes it is the first day of training camp, and yes while it is early, we are looking for any news.....drop the puck already!

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Why did you quote Nich then?
It was a quote of his quote of BB.

You can quote me on that.

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From Zipay's blog

Red wins first scrimmage, two periods, 3-1. White's Colton Orr scored the first goal of camp on a high tip in past Al Montoya. Ryan Callahan beat Valiquette, Prucha scored off a Sanguinetti giveaway and Jessiman scored five-hole on a penalty shot. Matt Zaba, wearing his tiger-striped Colorado College mask, was in the net for the last two Red scores. Alex Bourret dribbed a soft backhander on a penalty shot that Montoya stopped.
Next scrimmage, with Jagr, Drury, Gomez, Shanny, Avery, etc. begins in the early afternoon...


How about Colton Orr scoring the first goal of training camp!!!!

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09-14-2007, 01:14 PM
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Couple things stand out after reading alot over at BB.

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"I was happy with what we had [on defense] last year. There's a salary cap. When you sign two offensive forwards for a lot of money, there's not going to be a lot of money left for defensemen. Tom has to realize, we may have to change the style of play. Maybe now we have to start scoring more goals, not win 2-1, win 4-3. You have to work with you got on the team."

- Jagr

Kinda interesting considering how tight the Rangers played last year. I still think they can play that way and not focus solely on offense. Especially with the centers they have they can support the defense and Lundqvist. Kind of surprised actually by that statement. But its early.

Also nice to see them saying that the Avery-Drury-Shanny line looks like a natural combination. Great to see everyone seemingly ready to compete.

But lets not get ahead of ourselves here, i know its easy but check out last years training camp notes form BB last year and you'll see things change day by day and never really get locked in anyway.

But nonetheless its an exciting time.


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09-14-2007, 01:19 PM
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From Wienman-

Colton Orr, offensive wizard?

OK, maybe not. But I will say the Rangers’ resident enforcer looked impressive in the first scrimmage of the day, netting one goal and driving hard to the net Joe Thornton-style a few minutes later. Amazing what one summer could do.

Meanwhile, the Ryan Callahan at center experiment appeared worthwhile. His line accounted for two goals, both by Petr Prucha. Hugh Jessiman scored the other goal for the red team.

The Blue and Green units are on the ice now…

UPDATE, 12:42 p.m.: The top lines for the afternoon scrimmage: Scott Gomez between Jaromir Jagr and Marcel Hossa on the blue team; Chris Drury between Brendan Shanahan and Sean Avery on the green.

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I think Jagr is always going to want to have a more offensive minded team.

Not really surprised by his comments. I think it's more wishful thinking on his part.

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driving hard to the net Joe Thornton-style
That was the points I stopped reading, if anyone is interested.


Weinman needs to reel it in a bit.

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The obligatory chemistry questions were asked again this afternoon after Jaromir Jagr's and Scott Gomez's Blue Team beat the Greens 3-2 in the late scrimmage. But the tenor of the question changed -- now it was, did you notice the obvious chemistry? This is not going to be an issue, folks -- going head to head against Drury, Shanahan, and Avery, the Jagr-Gomez tandem, with Marcel Hossa doing his thing along the boards, dominated. The two were finding each other as if they'd been playing together forever rather than for the first time ever.
Good start there atleast.

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09-14-2007, 02:59 PM
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Kind of surprised actually by that statement. But its early.
A surprising and somewhat scary statement. Kind of echoes the Bure statement that if coaching wants him to score goals, then he cannot play defensively. But it is the first day of camp and one should not get carried away.
Buffalo's style of winning did not get them the Cup.

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That was the points I stopped reading, if anyone is interested.


Weinman needs to reel it in a bit.
Pretty sure it's tongue in cheek, SBOB. Sam can be pretty funny/sarcastic on his blog at times.

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Pretty sure it's tongue in cheek, SBOB. Sam can be pretty funny/sarcastic on his blog at times.
I like Sams blog, but he seems to have to try to be funny in just about every entry.

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Jagr and Gomes sound like a nice pairing so far. It's great to hear that:

-Marcel is doing his puck possesion thing well.
-Prucha sounds sharp.
-Sauer is hitting people.
-Callahan sounds sharp.

-that camp has begun. Can't wait for the start of the season.

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I like Sams blog, but he seems to have to try to be funny in just about every entry.
Who cares? It's a community journal. He can do whatever the hell he wants. If you want straight journalism, read his articles instead.

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