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01-09-2004, 11:35 AM
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would u trade Langdon for Ruutu

would u trade Langdon for Ruutu , they need their goon back in Vancouver, plus they have a similar player in Cooke.

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would u trade Langdon for Ruutu , they need their goon back in Vancouver, plus they have a similar player in Cooke.
Don't you think we need a goon also, I don't want to see Blouin back. Dwyer can't win a fight.

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would u trade Langdon for Ruutu , they need their goon back in Vancouver, plus they have a similar player in Cooke.
No.

Ruutu is a guy I like, similar to Begin, but he doesn't bring the fighting skills Langdon possesses and that we need.

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No.

Ruutu is a guy I like, similar to Begin, but he doesn't bring the fighting skills Langdon possesses and that we need.
IMO Ruutu is more of a pest than Begin and started to drop his gloves lately. He is no one of most hated palyer in the western conf.
Umberger, Federov and Cooke for Langdon and Hossa.

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IMO Ruutu is more of a pest than Begin and started to drop his gloves lately. He is no one of most hated palyer in the western conf.
Umberger, Federov and Cooke for Langdon and Hossa.
Sorry I meant Umberger, Federov and Ruutu for Langdon and Hossa!

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IMO Ruutu is more of a pest than Begin and started to drop his gloves lately. He is no one of most hated palyer in the western conf.
Umberger, Federov and Cooke for Langdon and Hossa.

Yikes, 2 second tier prospects (both with what I've heard as "Huge Attitude Problems") and Cooke for our only policeman and Hossa?

Cooke would be nice, but we are giving away what we need right now, we need to weed out what we DON'T need first.

If I was Bob, I would have to say no...



EDIT: Ruutu makes it even worse Ruutu=Begin IMO

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Firstly, Vancouver would not deal Cooke for that package. He's an impact player and serves an important role with the Canucks right now.

Secondly, I haven't seen any indication that Umberger has an attitude problem. He feels as though Burke has lowballed him, and given the fact that Burke's offered only $700,000 (or thereabouts), it does seem like he was lowballed. I'm not privvy to the negotiations but, not taking a team's offer does not mean a player's got attitude problems.

Umberger's set to become a UFA this summer. If the Habs want him, they can pursue him then. I'd like to see the Habs pick him up if he does become a UFA, because he's got some good skills, the size and maturity in his game to make an impact fairly soon.


As per the original post: no, I don't think I'd deal Langdon for Ruutu. Big fan of Ruutu's and have been for a few years now. He's worth more than Langdon, but there's just so few goons in the league right now that are as solid, cheap, and good for a team as Langdon is. With Montreal being a small team that can be pushed around, I think Langdon has an even greater importance here.

If Montreal picked up Ruutu, the team would be playing a chippier brand of hockey. Ruutu's often a player that will agitate and go after the opposition's better players, a la Tikkanen. How would the opposition react? They'd go after Montreal's top players. Without Langdon, we'd either see Montreal top forwards getting hurt, or having to defend themselves, or seeing Souray, Quintal and Komisarek spending a considerable amount of time in the penalty box. That ain't good for Komisarek's development, nor for Souray's wrist, nor for Montreal's defense.

Lastly, I don't think there's a chance in hell Vancouver would consider dealing Ruutu for Langdon. If they wanted to keep Langdon, they'd've done so back at the waiver draft and exposed Ruutu instead.

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[QUOTE=The~Franchise]Yikes, 2 second tier prospects (both with what I've heard as "Huge Attitude Problems") and Cooke for our only policeman and Hossa?

Cooke would be nice, but we are giving away what we need right now, we need to weed out what we DON'T need first.

If I was Bob, I would have to say no...



EDIT: Ruutu makes it even worse Ruutu=Begin IMO[/QUOTE======================================

no i think bob goin to try to get gino odjuick back before we trade for ruttu...
so i thihk the trade could be like this

to vancouver
gordie dwyer
darren langdon
gino odjuick
marcel hossa

to montreal

cooke
ruttu
bertuzzi
naslund

not sure bob would do this deal ...the canadians clearly get robbed ..

lol..smarten up with this langdon back to vancouver stuff...they put him on waivers and lost him..they got brookbank now,if they truely wanted langdon they would have exposed someone else...

as far as this question would i trade langdon for rutuu?...i probally would but brian burke wouldn't...

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[QUOTE=doug mckenzie]
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Yikes, 2 second tier prospects (both with what I've heard as "Huge Attitude Problems") and Cooke for our only policeman and Hossa?

Cooke would be nice, but we are giving away what we need right now, we need to weed out what we DON'T need first.

If I was Bob, I would have to say no...



EDIT: Ruutu makes it even worse Ruutu=Begin IMO[/QUOTE======================================

no i think bob goin to try to get gino odjuick back before we trade for ruttu...
so i thihk the trade could be like this

to vancouver
gordie dwyer
darren langdon
gino odjuick
marcel hossa

to montreal

cooke
ruttu
bertuzzi
naslund

not sure bob would do this deal ...the canadians clearly get robbed ..

lol..smarten up with this langdon back to vancouver stuff...they put him on waivers and lost him..they got brookbank now,if they truely wanted langdon they would have exposed someone else...

as far as this question would i trade langdon for rutuu?...i probally would but brian burke wouldn't...

u know ... we are a small team ... we need our goons ..

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IMO Ruutu is more of a pest than Begin and started to drop his gloves lately. He is no one of most hated palyer in the western conf.
Umberger, Federov and Cooke for Langdon and Hossa.
Well, if Ruutu can fight, then they don't need Langdon anymore. Problem solved.

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Vancouver recently picked up Wade Brookbank for a 2nd time. Nuff said.

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