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01-04-2004, 01:38 PM
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Can you see a "T" and an "S" in Plekanec ?

because Pierre Houde always says Plekanets and i'm sick and tired of hearing some weird names that don't exist

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It's probably the real prononciation but I hate it too, though.
Just like when they were announcing the trashers games and kept saying "Kovalchook". I know it might be how it's pronounced but god it's annoying.

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because Pierre Houde always says Plekanets and i'm sick and tired of hearing some weird names that don't exist
well on the radio they say "Plekane-sch" i i really dont know what's the correct pronounciation...like u know Martin Hlavac? well in NHL 2003 the dood says "lavasch" so im guessing the way they say it on the radio is the correct way to say it... let's not forget that Russian, Fins etc names dont necessarely pronounce the way they are written, especially russian. but im pretty sure (if i recall my russian knowledge) that Plekanec is pronounced Plekane-sch or close anyway

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They are quite possibly the worst duo of announcers in modern sports... ... I hate their inside jokes that they laugh about for 10 minutes even though none of it makes sense to us...

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because Pierre Houde always says Plekanets and i'm sick and tired of hearing some weird names that don't exist
I'm pretty sure it's the right way to say it. They usually ask the players themself. Most eastern europe names are'nt prononced like it's wrote in french or english.

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It's probably the real prononciation but I hate it too, though.
Yean I beleive it's the proper pronounciation. All the Czech players' names finishing with "C" are usually pronounced that way (at least that's what I heard in every WC).

* Ple-ka-netsh

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Yean I beleive it's the proper pronounciation. All the Czech players' names finishing with "C" are usually pronounced that way (at least that's what I heard in every WC).

* Ple-ka-netsh
Yeah but the way Houde says it is "Ple-ka-netsz", and thats annoying as hell.

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But why is Radek Dvorak pronounced "Radek vorjak" ?!?!

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It's probably the real prononciation but I hate it too, though.
Just like when they were announcing the trashers games and kept saying "Kovalchook". I know it might be how it's pronounced but god it's annoying.
the problem is that Kovalchuck doesn't want to be called "Kovalchook", he wants to be called "Chuck" so I don't know why they keep saying "Chook"

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the problem is that Kovalchuck doesn't want to be called "Kovalchook", he wants to be called "Chuck" so I don't know why they keep saying "Chook"

There is also Danny Markov. His real name is Danyil (sp) Markov, I think. But no one calls him that anymore. But Houde likes to be a smartass and keep calling him Danyil.. *sighs*

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You guys are easily annoyed.

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well on the radio they say "Plekane-sch" i i really dont know what's the correct pronounciation...like u know Martin Hlavac? well in NHL 2003 the dood says "lavasch" so im guessing the way they say it on the radio is the correct way to say it... let's not forget that Russian, Fins etc names dont necessarely pronounce the way they are written, especially russian. but im pretty sure (if i recall my russian knowledge) that Plekanec is pronounced Plekane-sch or close anyway


Oh ya good ol' Jan Lavache....

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It's maybe the right prononciation but I hate when Houle say PetroviSky

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How about Stanislav Netscash (Neckar)?

According to my Lonely Planet in Czech 'c' is pronounced as the 'ts' in 'bits'

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But why is Radek Dvorak pronounced "Radek vorjak" ?!?!
actually, this one, the way they pronounce it is :"D-vor-jak" but i believe that the correct pronounciation is : "D-var-yak" or "D-var-yasch"

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I've been a long time visitor and there were a lot of posts that I felt the urge to register and reply. And I always retained myself. But this is the one that I could not resist.

If you want to bash Houde/Pedneault for their pronounciation, bash them for Van Hallen, olik, Dzubov, Ilaia, not for the names they pronounce right! Where do you see "ts" in Plekanec you ask? Where the heck do you see "é" in Joe Juneau is my answer to you or why do you pronoince Fransooa, instead of Frankoiss in Francois? Do you realise there are accents and pronounciation rules in Czech too?

Well, maybe I'm a bit too angry right now, but it's probably because I'm pissed that my name is not pronounced correctly most of the time and it's good to know that at least here are some people trying to make an effort to pronounce foreign names correctly who get bashed for it!

Finally, here is how the names discussed above should be pronounced:
- Ilia Kovalchook (he is just tired of correcting everyone who was saying "chuk" when he came in the league. As a rule of thumb, forget about English pronounciation rules in Russian names, "u" always sounds as oo and "i" is always ee, not ay).
- Tomash Plekanets ("š" is sh in Czech, and "c" in most cases is ts)
- Petrovitski (same reasons)
- Dvorjak ("ř" in Czech is rj, same as in Pilarj, Jirji).

Now hopefully it is more clear why Neckar is pronounced Netskarj

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Sorta like watching the Croatian team during the world cup.

Dokic would be pronounced Dokitch
Sivic would be proununced Sivitch

I guess Czechs have their own thing going too.

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Ilyaal ->I hate when Pednault says that!

I bet you they will say:
Alexander Oveccc Kin
But really it's OveCHkin

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Houde is correct on "Plekanets". I studied the Czech alphabet and pronunciations before visiting the Czech Republic. I would pronounce Neckar as Netskarzh, not Netskarj. The accent marks appearing over the consonants c, r, and s make a world of difference. (I'm too lazy to find the ASCAN characters on my keyboard to illustrate this.)

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Finally, here is how the names discussed above should be pronounced:
- Ilia Kovalchook (he is just tired of correcting everyone who was saying "chuk" when he came in the league. As a rule of thumb, forget about English pronounciation rules in Russian names, "u" always sounds as oo and "i" is always ee, not ay).
Kovalchuck wants to be called "chuck" not "chook" and he said that very often, so instead of inventing names for everyone they should ask players how their name should be pronounced

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How about Bates "Batalyia"?

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i second mcphee opinion

imagine when Andrei Kastsitsyn is going to be here.

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You guys are easily annoyed.


That said, tell me your ears don't ring when you hear Frankenstein pronouced Freakenschtein.

or on the other side of the coin, when the Leaf announcers used to say Guy Lafloor.

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How about Bates "Batalyia"?
:p I think Plekanec should be said like that : *Plekanec .... like at the draft .

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because Pierre Houde always says Plekanets and i'm sick and tired of hearing some weird names that don't exist
Actually, Pierre Houde puts a lot of effort to have a correct pronounciation of each players name. Sometimes it is annoying but can we blame him?

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