HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > The History of Hockey
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
The History of Hockey Relive great moments in hockey history and discuss how the game has changed over time.

Doru Tureanu, best player you never heard of?

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
10-06-2011, 08:11 AM
  #26
Canadiens1958
Registered User
 
Canadiens1958's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 11,504
vCash: 500
Position

Quote:
Originally Posted by Der Kaiser View Post
Curious topic. Current Frölunda HC goaltender (also Danish national team goalie) Fredrik Andersen is 194 cm tall (6' 4'') and weighs in at 116 kg (255 lbs) and he is actually very swift for his size. Journalists who have interviewed him in the locker room say that he looks nothing like an elite hockey player, yet after 6 games played in the SEL this season he has been absolutely stellar and is at 0.99 GAA and 0.966 SV%.

I'd be interested to see a thread discussing the fitness of players in a historical perspective.
Goalies and skaters are viewed differently.

Historically the NHL has had a few of each that were out of shape - Gump Worsley. Skaters - Gilles Marotte, Phil Esposito, Jaroslav Spacek, Joe Thornton, Jaromir Jagr but they either under achieved, adjusted or left the league before their time.

My point about Tureanu was that it is doubtful that Sam Pollock would even invest in an overseas return plane ticket for a player who was not in shape, playing B pool hockey.

Canadiens1958 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-06-2011, 01:55 PM
  #27
Iain Fyffe
Hockey fact-checker
 
Iain Fyffe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Fredericton, NB
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,795
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by VanIslander View Post
To say he was a Top-1000 all-time player is nothing to sneeze at! Spread out over a hundred years, that's a not insignificant mention.
What I meant was, whoever selected him at 849 picked him on name recognition alone, surely. With players like Carson Cooper and Billy Breen and Billy McGimsie and Wally Hergesheimer not taken in the top 1000, there's no way a player who played at his level should be at 849, unless he completely and utterly dominated that level, which he didn't.

Iain Fyffe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-06-2011, 01:58 PM
  #28
Iain Fyffe
Hockey fact-checker
 
Iain Fyffe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Fredericton, NB
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,795
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Der Kaiser View Post
Journalists who have interviewed him in the locker room say that he looks nothing like an elite hockey player, yet after 6 games played in the SEL this season he has been absolutely stellar and is at 0.99 GAA and 0.966 SV%.
I love it when "journalists" judge a player's ability based on his appearance, rather than how well he plays.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadiens1958 View Post
My point about Tureanu was that it is doubtful that Sam Pollock would even invest in an overseas return plane ticket for a player who was not in shape, playing B pool hockey.
I agree, even without physique in the equation. I'd like to see some evidence for the claim about the enormous contract offer. It seems apocryphal to me.

Iain Fyffe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-06-2011, 02:51 PM
  #29
RabbinsDuck
Registered User
 
RabbinsDuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Brighton, MI
Country: United States
Posts: 4,736
vCash: 500
2 mil in Romanian currency is most likely.

RabbinsDuck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-06-2011, 03:07 PM
  #30
plusandminus
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 980
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by RabbinsDuck View Post
2 mil in Romanian currency is most likely.
How much was/is that in for example USD?

plusandminus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-06-2011, 05:49 PM
  #31
nutbar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,093
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadiens1958 View Post
Doubtful physique, photo shows the start of a "Beer League" gut.
I don't know much about this guy, but to my knowledge, national teams wore those Adidas jerseys in the mid-late 80's, so this suggests to me this picture was taken towards the end of his career.

nutbar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-06-2011, 06:47 PM
  #32
Killion
Global Moderator
 
Killion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Casablanca
Country: Morocco
Posts: 23,160
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by plusandminus View Post
How much was/is that in for example USD?
Not so straightforward a question as you might think, and my math/currency conversions are pathetic. Romania redenominated its currency in 2005 so you'd have to factor that into the equation. $100 in the New Lei is worth app. $30.80 USD. The Old Lei, 1880-2005 consisted of 100 Bani per Lei; upon redenomination, you needed something like 10,000 Old Lei's to make One New Lei...

1 Romanian Lei = 0.322644221 Canadian. You figure it out. Beyond my pay grade.

Killion is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
10-07-2011, 02:22 AM
  #33
Der Kaiser
Registered User
 
Der Kaiser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Gothenburg, SWE
Country: Sweden
Posts: 800
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iain Fyffe View Post
I love it when "journalists" judge a player's ability based on his appearance, rather than how well he plays.
To be fair, all of said journalists are completely up in the air about Andersen though Probably the most talked about (positively) player inte SEL so far this season.

Der Kaiser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-08-2011, 05:43 AM
  #34
TheStranger
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 15,913
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Der Kaiser View Post
Curious topic. Current Frölunda HC goaltender (also Danish national team goalie) Fredrik Andersen is 194 cm tall (6' 4'') and weighs in at 116 kg (255 lbs) and he is actually very swift for his size. Journalists who have interviewed him in the locker room say that he looks nothing like an elite hockey player, yet after 6 games played in the SEL this season he has been absolutely stellar and is at 0.99 GAA and 0.966 SV%.

I'd be interested to see a thread discussing the fitness of players in a historical perspective.
This guy must have gained a lot of weight. Hockeydb has him as 180 something, wonder when that weight was taken

TheStranger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-08-2011, 09:23 AM
  #35
Der Kaiser
Registered User
 
Der Kaiser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Gothenburg, SWE
Country: Sweden
Posts: 800
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheStranger View Post
This guy must have gained a lot of weight. Hockeydb has him as 180 something, wonder when that weight was taken
On the Hurricanes training camp (2010) he weighed in at 116 kg (255 lbs). According to himself his current match weight is 112 kg.

edit: His HockeyDB length is also 6'0. Right now he is 6'4.

Der Kaiser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
10-08-2011, 12:44 PM
  #36
Hardyvan123
tweet@HardyintheWack
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Vancouver
Country: Canada
Posts: 13,095
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by VanIslander View Post
To say he was a Top-1000 all-time player is nothing to sneeze at! Spread out over a hundred years, that's a not insignificant mention.

Is he Top-500 all time? He could have been, but based on weighing all factors, it's hard to say he's better than several hundred others who played against the very best of their era.

849th all time is respectable.
Tony was better Hand(s) down but who is really to say?

Hardyvan123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-08-2011, 11:21 PM
  #37
nutbar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,093
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hardyvan123 View Post
Tony was better Hand(s) down but who is really to say?
Hand was a notable disappointment in his only A pool world championships in 1994. Zero goals, zero assists, zero points.

nutbar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-12-2011, 05:26 AM
  #38
Stray Wasp
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Newcastle upon Tyne
Country: United Kingdom
Posts: 2,761
vCash: 500
In mitigation, Hand was worn out by the time Pool A took place in 1994. It didn't help that the British season had only ended 48 hours before the first game. Given the huge differences between the British league and top-class hockey at the time, it was asking a lot of the players to adjust so quickly, especially Hand, who had to carry his club side to a large degree.

Stray Wasp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
12-12-2011, 11:31 PM
  #39
cupcrazyman
In Shanny We Trust
 
cupcrazyman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Parts Unknown
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,537
vCash: 500
maybe the Habs could have had their 70's Dynasty last a little longer ?

cupcrazyman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-21-2014, 12:32 PM
  #40
Hasbro
HFBoards Sponsor
 
Hasbro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: South Rectangle
Country: Sami
Posts: 30,452
vCash: 500
Doru Tureanu of Romania: How Good Was He?

Looking back on the 1980 Olympics I discovered Doru Tureanu. Did anyone see him or know of his relative talent? Was he another player we never got to enjoy because he was stuck in the Eastern Bloc or was he just a big fish in a small pond?

Hasbro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-21-2014, 12:37 PM
  #41
boris4c
Registered User
 
boris4c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Country: Russian Federation
Posts: 635
vCash: 500
He was quite good.

There was another thread about him some years ago (here).

boris4c is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-21-2014, 02:00 PM
  #42
TheDevilMadeMe
Global Moderator
 
TheDevilMadeMe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Brooklyn
Country: United States
Posts: 40,970
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by boris4c View Post
He was quite good.

There was another thread about him some years ago (here).
Thanks. Merged threads

TheDevilMadeMe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-21-2014, 11:39 PM
  #43
iamjs
Unregistered User
 
iamjs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Country: United States
Posts: 9,222
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Canadiens1958 View Post
Doubtful physique, photo shows the start of a "Beer League" gut.



iamjs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-22-2014, 05:46 AM
  #44
kmad
Riot Survivor
 
kmad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Vancouver
Country: Canada
Posts: 32,534
vCash: 500
Surprisingly this guy hasn't been profiled by Joe Pelletier yet.

kmad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-22-2014, 07:48 AM
  #45
TheMoreYouKnow
Registered User
 
TheMoreYouKnow's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Eire
Posts: 8,947
vCash: 500
A great B pool player but let's be honest here, the whole Canadiens bit is almost certainly in the realm of myth.

And also, let's face it, you don't have to delve into the world of B pool hockey to find good European players from the 60s through 80s that very few fans in North America have ever heard of.

TheMoreYouKnow is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
02-23-2014, 12:02 AM
  #46
seventieslord
Moderator
 
seventieslord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Regina, SK
Country: Canada
Posts: 24,955
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Iain Fyffe View Post
What I meant was, whoever selected him at 849 picked him on name recognition alone, surely. With players like Carson Cooper and Billy Breen and Billy McGimsie and Wally Hergesheimer not taken in the top 1000, there's no way a player who played at his level should be at 849, unless he completely and utterly dominated that level, which he didn't.
Not to mention, it wasn't a consensus decision, it takes one GM to draft a player. Donald brashear went top 1000 last year.

seventieslord is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:58 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.