Nobody would win the deal. I can't understand why this point is so hard to get across.
Because you're not making much sense. Arguing who would be crying harder if they made a deal is such a poor way to evaluate players, I can't see why you don't understand the absurdity in it.
Originally Posted by Nas_Bert_Morr
Let me word it differently: Who do you think the other 28 GM's would take? Iginla, and twice on Sunday.
This is the other reason why it makes no sense. Regardless of who you like, the two are so comparable, that you're not going to get a consensus. The poll is pretty dead even here, it's a pretty good indication that people view them fairly closely.
Just stating that Iginla is better doesn't make it so.
When Iginla's at his best, playmaking is definitely comparable. And Iginla is the better goal scorer. Alfredsson had 58 assists in 77 games. Iginla had 55 assists in 70 games. Hmmm.
As for the guy who said Alfredsson is the face of the franchise and the best player on the team...Iginla isn't to the Flames?? I'm confused.
How quickly people forget that a guy still in his prime has won a Pearson, a Hart and two Richards.
How quickly people worship a guy who has 5 goals in 4 games played. 29 goals in 77 games last year vs. 39 goals in 70 games.
Iginla never won the Hart Trophy.
I think the poll result has little to do with Alfredsson's scoring in the first few games of the season. He also carried his team to the Stanley Cup finals, where he was the absolute best of five good players for Ottawa. He's also better defensively than Iginla by a fair margin, and is a lot cheaper. I think another part of Iginla's lack of support in this poll is that we all know that he's capable of scoring more than he has been. He's been very inconsistent since leading the league in goals and points in 2002. Also, despite Iginla's alleged leadership abilities, he was unable to prevent his team from taking a huge dip in the standings down the stretch and almost missing the playoffs.
IIt was a simple question. They didn't ask us "with our cap space" or "with his contract".
I would rather have Iginla. Are you going to be OK with that?
When there is a poll asking who I would want on my favorite team, I always take the players' contracts into account, and I'm sure others do. The fact that the question wasn't specific indicates that it was implied more than that it shouldn't be considered. The question also didn't ask which one you'd prefer to play on your team, rather than be the goalie coach. But I think it's safe to assume. Usually, when there's a poll, and the poll starter doesn't want people to take salary into consideration, they specify that in the poll. I don't believe that was done here.
I prefer Alfredsson. Are YOU going to be ok with that? You seem as bothered by people's preference for Alfredsson as anybody else is bothered by your preference for Iginla.
Ok, but Iginla's career high in points is 96. Alfredsson's is 103.
Iginla's only scored over 70 points 4 times. Alfredsson's done it 7 times. (Yes, Alfie's older, but he's only played 1 more season in the NHL than Iginla).
Iginla's 96 was more impressive than Alfredsson's 103, considering the years each player put up those respective numbers.
And yes Alfredsson has only played 1 more season than Iginla. But he entered the NHL at an advanced age, and thus more of his seasons were during his prime years than Iginla. A more useful comparison might be to compare how many 70 point seasons each had through the age of 30 (Iginla's current age).