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Alfredsson vs. Iginla.

View Poll Results: Who would you rather have on your team RIGHT NOW.
Daniel Alfredsson 123 49.40%
Jarome Iginla 126 50.60%
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10-10-2007, 04:51 PM
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What are you talking about? Now you're just being irrational, cupcake.
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Nobody would win the deal. I can't understand why this point is so hard to get across.
Because you're not making much sense. Arguing who would be crying harder if they made a deal is such a poor way to evaluate players, I can't see why you don't understand the absurdity in it.

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Let me word it differently: Who do you think the other 28 GM's would take? Iginla, and twice on Sunday.
This is the other reason why it makes no sense. Regardless of who you like, the two are so comparable, that you're not going to get a consensus. The poll is pretty dead even here, it's a pretty good indication that people view them fairly closely.

Just stating that Iginla is better doesn't make it so.

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When Iginla's at his best, playmaking is definitely comparable. And Iginla is the better goal scorer. Alfredsson had 58 assists in 77 games. Iginla had 55 assists in 70 games. Hmmm.

As for the guy who said Alfredsson is the face of the franchise and the best player on the team...Iginla isn't to the Flames?? I'm confused.

How quickly people forget that a guy still in his prime has won a Pearson, a Hart and two Richards.

How quickly people worship a guy who has 5 goals in 4 games played. 29 goals in 77 games last year vs. 39 goals in 70 games.
Iginla never won the Hart Trophy.

I think the poll result has little to do with Alfredsson's scoring in the first few games of the season. He also carried his team to the Stanley Cup finals, where he was the absolute best of five good players for Ottawa. He's also better defensively than Iginla by a fair margin, and is a lot cheaper. I think another part of Iginla's lack of support in this poll is that we all know that he's capable of scoring more than he has been. He's been very inconsistent since leading the league in goals and points in 2002. Also, despite Iginla's alleged leadership abilities, he was unable to prevent his team from taking a huge dip in the standings down the stretch and almost missing the playoffs.

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Given the salaries, it's a no-brainer in my mind who I'd rather have.
Just like its a no brainer in my mind to take Iginla. Salaries included, still Iginla.

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In reality, it's an easy decision.
For some its an easy decision to take Iginla.

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I love this hypothetical fantasy land we live in where contracts don't matter.

IIt was a simple question. They didn't ask us "with our cap space" or "with his contract".

I would rather have Iginla. Are you going to be OK with that?

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IIt was a simple question. They didn't ask us "with our cap space" or "with his contract".

I would rather have Iginla. Are you going to be OK with that?
Everyone's entitled to their opinion. I'm not trying to change yours, muffin.

I said it was very close and they're very comparable players. I'd give Alfredsson the slight edge though. Are you going to be OK with that?

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I would rather have Iginla. Are you going to be OK with that?
It's hardly surprising.

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Now, I love Iginla. I feel when he's on his game he's PROBABLY the best player in the world.
With comments like this, is anyone particularly surprised with your opinion?

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Much like the results of this poll. Very close, slightly in Alfie's favour.

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Just stating that Iginla is better doesn't make it so.
And just stating that Alfredsson is better doesn't make it so.

I find it amusing and entertaining that when an unbiased fan of neither team says Iginla is better, he is jumped on by 4 Sens fans at once.

When a Sens fan says Alfredsson is better, it is accepted as fact.

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I find it amusing and entertaining that when an unbiased fan of neither team says Iginla is better, he is jumped on by 4 Sens fans at once.
How are you unbiased when you've said you're a fan of Iginla?

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It's hardly surprising.



With comments like this, is anyone particularly surprised with your opinion?
Says the guy with an Alfredsson avatar that says "playoff warrior"

Are we to be suprised you'd rather have Alfredsson?

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We all know that Alfredsson is just a product of Eastern media bias.

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And with you having an Alfredsson avatar that says "playoff warrior", are we to be suprised you'd rather have Alfredsson?
Unlike some people posting in this thread, I'm not pretending to be unbiased.

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The guy was excellent in the playoffs but please don't ever call Alfie a warrior....thats funny stuff.
Well, at least you've revealed your ignorance on the topic.

He played a very physical, agitating game to go along with his offensive production, in the last post-season.

If you missed it, your loss.


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Last I heard it was an alcoholic beverage. Unless you've turned it into a term for homosexual advances.

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Last I heard it was an alcoholic beverage. Unless you've turned it into a term for homosexual advances.
You've got mansechs on the brain, pumpkin. I'd examine that before making any implications of that kind.

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And just stating that Alfredsson is better doesn't make it so.

I find it amusing and entertaining that when an unbiased fan of neither team says Iginla is better, he is jumped on by 4 Sens fans at once.

When a Sens fan says Alfredsson is better, it is accepted as fact.
You're the one claiming that it woudl be a unanimous choice, with very little thought or rationale to back up your claims.

No one really cares if you think that Iginla is better. It's your claim that everyone else would agree with you that is the problem, when it clearly isn't the case.

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How are you unbiased when you've said you're a fan of Iginla?
Didn't you hear? Bias only applies to fans of the team! Silly Black Tooth Grin

PS: You go down easy and make me happy hahaha

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IIt was a simple question. They didn't ask us "with our cap space" or "with his contract".

I would rather have Iginla. Are you going to be OK with that?
When there is a poll asking who I would want on my favorite team, I always take the players' contracts into account, and I'm sure others do. The fact that the question wasn't specific indicates that it was implied more than that it shouldn't be considered. The question also didn't ask which one you'd prefer to play on your team, rather than be the goalie coach. But I think it's safe to assume. Usually, when there's a poll, and the poll starter doesn't want people to take salary into consideration, they specify that in the poll. I don't believe that was done here.

I prefer Alfredsson. Are YOU going to be ok with that? You seem as bothered by people's preference for Alfredsson as anybody else is bothered by your preference for Iginla.

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It's hardly surprising.



With comments like this, is anyone particularly surprised with your opinion?
Do you have a date on when I made that quote? Because well I could definetly see myself saying that in the past, opinions change as players change.

Nonetheless, I give you credit for digging up my past. You're the Dan Rather of hfboards.

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And just stating that Alfredsson is better doesn't make it so.

I find it amusing and entertaining that when an unbiased fan of neither team says Iginla is better, he is jumped on by 4 Sens fans at once.
And saying that you are unbiased doesn't make it so.

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Says the guy with an Alfredsson avatar that says "playoff warrior"

Are we to be suprised you'd rather have Alfredsson?
Yeah, and Iginla was great in his playoff run, but other than that, what's he done? A couple of first round exits? Real warrior.

Seriously, if you claim that Alfredsson hasn't done anything besides the one run, you have to say the same thing about Iginla.

What else has he done? Olympic gold medal? Yup, Alfredsson has one of those too. He even led Sweden in scoring on their way to the win.

I salute Iginla for having a couple of fights during his days, but that makes him no better a player or "warrior" than Alfredsson.

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Yeah, and Iginla was great in his playoff run, but other than that, what's he done? A couple of first round exits? Real warrior.

Seriously, if you claim that Alfredsson hasn't done anything besides the one run, you have to say the same thing about Iginla.

What else has he done? Olympic gold medal? Yup, Alfredsson has one of those too. He even led Sweden in scoring on their way to the win.

I salute Iginla for having a couple of fights during his days, but that makes him no better a player or "warrior" than Alfredsson.
Iginla also has 1 Art Ross Trophy, 2 Rocket Richard Trophies, and 2 All-Star Team selections (1 1st-Team, and 1 2nd-Team).

Alfredsson has 0 Art Ross Trophies, 0 Rocket Richard Trophies, and 1 All-Star Team selection (1 2nd-Team)

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Iginla also has 1 Art Ross Trophy, 2 Rocket Richard Trophies, and 2 All-Star Team selections (1 1st-Team, and 1 2nd-Team).

Alfredsson has 0 Art Ross Trophies, 0 Rocket Richard Trophies, and 1 All-Star Team selection (1 2nd-Team)
Ok, but Iginla's career high in points is 96. Alfredsson's is 103.

Iginla's only scored over 70 points 4 times. Alfredsson's done it 7 times. (Yes, Alfie's older, but he's only played 1 more season in the NHL than Iginla).

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Alfredsson has 0 Art Ross Trophies, 0 Rocket Richard Trophies, and 1 All-Star Team selection (1 2nd-Team)
and one calder memorial trophy you conveniently forgot...

alfredsson also won an SEL championship in 2004-05, scoring 12 goals and 18pts in 14 games in the playoffs.


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Ok, but Iginla's career high in points is 96. Alfredsson's is 103.

Iginla's only scored over 70 points 4 times. Alfredsson's done it 7 times. (Yes, Alfie's older, but he's only played 1 more season in the NHL than Iginla).
Iginla's 96 was more impressive than Alfredsson's 103, considering the years each player put up those respective numbers.

And yes Alfredsson has only played 1 more season than Iginla. But he entered the NHL at an advanced age, and thus more of his seasons were during his prime years than Iginla. A more useful comparison might be to compare how many 70 point seasons each had through the age of 30 (Iginla's current age).

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