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10-11-2007, 12:27 PM
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Prucha practicing on the first line. Scatchard skated on a line with Dubi and Orr. Which I guess means the other line is Cally/Betts/Hollweg.

Dont even know what to say to that.
I do. Renney builds shutdown 3rd line around Betts. Dubi will center 4th. Good for him since4thh would be an energy offensive line. Classic approach.

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10-11-2007, 12:30 PM
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Who's that defenseman riding the pine? oh yea paul mara..he actually costs 200,000 more than cullen.

save me the defensive depth is more important bs..bc oh yea there's a salary cap and keeping mara over cullen to bench mara is assinine.
oh yeah who has more value to a team...a top 6 defenseman or a 3rd line center?

Defensive depth is important...look how many goals the rangers are giving up a game...defense isn't a problem but that's not the point of my response...the point is how do you know there was a market for Mara? Are you the GM?

Keeping mara over cullen made and still makes the most sense...unless your somebody that uses a sample size of THREE games to judge how the roster is going to be this season..

defensive depth is BS....


the third line is the problem? nope...the top 2 lines are the problem right now..the team isn't scoring...the defensive playes are DOING THE JOB!

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10-11-2007, 12:32 PM
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I want Dawes....this is insane. Renney is killing me this year!!!

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10-11-2007, 12:33 PM
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Prucha practicing on the first line. Scatchard skated on a line with Dubi and Orr. Which I guess means the other line is Cally/Betts/Hollweg.

Dont even know what to say to that.
Prucha Drury Jagr
Straka Gomez Shanny
Hollywood Betts Cally
Scatchard Dubi Orr - who's centering, Dubi or Scatchard?

I'll give that a shot, see what happens.

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10-11-2007, 12:34 PM
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I want Dawes....this is insane. Renney is killing me this year!!!
this year? it just started like 3 days ago? ha

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10-11-2007, 12:35 PM
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Who's that defenseman riding the pine? oh yea paul mara..he actually costs 200,000 more than cullen.
And Cullen has two seasons left on his contract after this season while Mara is a group III this summer

Some people need to make up their minds.Cullen was the whipping boy around here last season and now he is the missing piece.Gimme a break

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10-11-2007, 12:40 PM
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Prucha Drury Jagr
Straka Gomez Shanny
Hollywood Betts Cally
Scatchard Dubi Orr - who's centering, Dubi or Scatchard?

I'll give that a shot, see what happens.
Dubi or Scatch? No difference there would be no much passing in offensive zone anyway. I'd say whoever is better at faceoff. I have to buy Renney's words that Scatchard was brought in before Hossa went out. That's it for Dawes. At least for now.

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10-11-2007, 12:49 PM
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from what i remember of scatch, was very good at faceoffs and not afraid to use his body.
liked him lot wen he was an isle

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10-11-2007, 12:52 PM
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The Rangers did attempt to sign Scatchard in 2005.He is pulling down $700,000 per(over 4 years)from Phoenix in the buyout

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10-11-2007, 12:53 PM
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from what i remember of scatch, was very good at faceoffs and not afraid to use his body.
liked him lot wen he was an isle
we cant find the money for Marc Smith but we have it for Scatchard . Scatchard is good on faceoffs and physical but has been injury prone the past few seasons and is not that fast of a skater. He is not even signed yet, how can he practice with the Rangers???????

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10-11-2007, 12:54 PM
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Will Scatchard sign a two way contract if offered?

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10-11-2007, 01:02 PM
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And Cullen has two seasons left on his contract after this season while Mara is a group III this summer

Some people need to make up their minds.Cullen was the whipping boy around here last season and now he is the missing piece.Gimme a break
Cullen was being misused as a 2nd line center last year, and that's why he was the whipping boy for the first half of the season. When he was put on the 3rd line with Avery and Callahan, he took off, and that line was GREAT together.

We were sorely missing Avery last night, and we're going to be feeling Cullen's abscence all year if we don't find a viable 3rd line center.

Trading him to clear up caproom when we resigned Tools like Hossa (scratched first two games), Pock (hasn't played a game yet), and Hollweg (takes stupid boarding penalties constantly was just counter-productive. In this NHL you need 3 lines that can consistently, to a certain level, put up some points. We had that down the stretch last year.

What pisses me off is that we traded Cullen just to dump capspace, and all we got out of it was Hutchinson, who got waived. Joe Barnes will likely never see the NHL. We didn't even get a 3rd line center replacement. We could have gotten Kevyn Adams or something.

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we cant find the money for Marc Smith but we have it for Scatchard . Scatchard is good on faceoffs and physical but has been injury prone the past few seasons and is not that fast of a skater. He is not even signed yet, how can he practice with the Rangers???????
Mark Smith was totally ineffective during the preseason.

He wasn't fast enough and didn't make enough of an impression.

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10-11-2007, 01:03 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Peca out of the opening night lineup due to injury? If so, he wasn't the answer either.
as a matter of fact he was out on opening night with a tight groin...not all that uncommon for a vet going through training camp and he is now in the lineup and would be a significantly better choice then Dave F'in Scatchard!

Does anybody here think that Scatch is a better choice then what Peca would've been?

And nobody is coming from Hartford to fill the slot because Dubi was by far the most ready prospect with a shot at the 3rd line slot and he was correctly deemed to need more time developing before stepping into that role so Anisimov isn't likely at all to get a look either and will spend the entire yr in Hartford as well.

If it's not Scatchard they will once again look outwards for help and hopefully the asset they have to give up won't be too significant to fill a hole they could've filled with a good player at a good price with zero downside to the deal being that it was for only one yr.

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10-11-2007, 01:07 PM
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While alot of nonsense is being thrown around i'll just say what i've been saying since last year.

Joel Lundqvist would be the prefect 3rd line center for this team.

Not only so that he and Henke are together, this guy can hit, take faceoffs and chip in with the offense.

Absolute joke that Sather didn't trade for him, wouldnt have cost us much. I'll get over it someday, just not now, having my JOrts moment for the season

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10-11-2007, 01:13 PM
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No offense, but this is the exact mentality that dominated this team from 1998-2004.

This team is fine the way it is. It just need time to gel.
Hallehleuya! The lord hath spoken!

This is the team's only issue. The panicking isn't helping the situation, only time will cure these ailments. Renney just needs to let this team play, stop with the constant tinkering... it's only delaying the gelling process.

And jesus, can he please give a kid a real shot? Why do they even bother starting the season with these kids? Just send them down to start, sign a bunch of depth/stop-gap/journeymen players, get in cap trouble and then have a bunch of guys get hurt. Then we can just call up these kids and mutter in amazement, "wow, where did this kid come from? Great find, New York Rangers!!"

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10-11-2007, 01:14 PM
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Joel Lundqvist would be the prefect 3rd line center for this team.

Not only so that he and Henke are together, this guy can hit, take faceoffs and chip in with the offense.
So does Betts. Except Henke part.

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10-11-2007, 01:16 PM
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jagr-drury-straka
shanahan-gomez-dawes
callahan-betts-prucha

i like those lines a lot

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jagr-drury-straka
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callahan-betts-prucha

i like those lines a lot
I don't like Dawes in line up. The rest is ok.

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we cant find the money for Marc Smith but we have it for Scatchard . Scatchard is good on faceoffs and physical but has been injury prone the past few seasons and is not that fast of a skater. He is not even signed yet, how can he practice with the Rangers???????
What? You've been calling for the Rangers to get Scatchard for the better part of two years now.

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So does Betts. Except Henke part.
They are two totally different players. Joel brings a lot more engery then Betts does.

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10-11-2007, 01:31 PM
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So does Betts. Except Henke part.
can you please stop with the Betts is the perfect 3rd line center nonsense because 3rd line centers don't have ELEVEN CAREER ASSISTS and while Betts certainly has a big role on this team it's on the 4th line because he simply isn't cutting it on your top 3 lines unless you plan on being an average to below average team and when you factor in that he is grounding 2 potential scoring threats for us in Prucha and Callahan it makes the situation even that much worse!

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So does Betts. Except Henke part.
No way, you havent seen Joel play if this is what your telling me.

He's pretty much been the best all around forward on Dallas this year.

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They are two totally different players. Joel brings a lot more engery then Betts does.
Joel has less tenure. He will come down.
I like the guy, but I find Betts being better defensively. Centre is not expected to score due to large defensive responsibilities. Def. not on 3rd line which is a defensive line.

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only good thing I can think of is Dubinsky gets sent down, and we call up Dawes, we sign Scatchard to replace Hossa. Other than that I dont like it very much.

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All Im saying is its too soon to panic

but if your looking to bring in a C from outside the organization, they better do better than Scatchard

Not sure whos even available, or to be had through trade , but that'll cost assests.

Forsberg is STILL one of the best players on the planet and he is unsigned.

Ah but the foot.......

Exactly how in the world could the Rangers afford to give Forsberg a contract?

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