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10-16-2007, 12:52 PM
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Proposal Boston-Anaheim

http://www.spectorshockey.net/rumors.html

According to Spector the Anaheim Ducks are looking for depth in the forward lines (guess Mowers didnt exacly cut it eh ). The article also says that they would be willing to trade young Swiss goalie Jonas Hiller to get it. Now that gives me a couple ideas say Fernandez continues to not get it done in Boston and with Timmy being 33 he may only have a couple years left by the time Rask comes up so what if:

Anaheim:
Brandon Bochenski

Boston:
Jonas Hiller+ (feel free to work something in there but I'd guess a pick with Hiller)

If Lucic stays Bochenski won't have a spot on this roster and with Fernandez struggling to find his form and Hiller being NHL ready we may be able to use him and Thomas at somepoint this season. I've watched Spengler Cups and I've seen Hiller's first NHL start and he is a very impressive netminder so I think this could be a great move for the B's.

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10-16-2007, 12:53 PM
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Bochenski is definitely expendable, especially if we have the opportunity to bring back a goalie.

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sigalet, regan and I'm sure we have others.

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What would we need another goalie for?

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10-16-2007, 01:03 PM
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What would we need another goalie for?
To take the pressure off Rask to be our 'Savouir' ?

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10-16-2007, 01:04 PM
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I fail to see why the Ducks would deal a young, promising netminder for a 1 dimensional offensive player who can't crack the lineup of what is not exactly one of the league's offensive juggernauts.

The obvious answer would be to offer Murray, but again, I think they'd have limited interest.

My guess is for Hiller, they'd want Kobasew. Maybe Axe. He'd be a great fit in Anaheim, he and Pahlsson together.

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10-16-2007, 01:04 PM
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Anaheim's pretty deep on the blue line.

Problem is that I don't think they'd part with Beauchemin unless we overpaid big time. All that's left after Beauchemin (aside from Pronger and Schneider who we don't want / couldn't get) are 5-6 guys like Huskins, Hnidy and our old friend O'Donell.

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To take the pressure off Rask to be our 'Savouir' ?
I would have rather kept Toivonen if that were our goal - I think we're set in net for a long time after Manny's deal's up.

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My guess is for Hiller, they'd want Kobasew. Maybe Axe. He'd be a great fit in Anaheim, he and Pahlsson together.
Are Kobasew and Axe expendable ?

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10-16-2007, 01:17 PM
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Are Kobasew and Axe expendable ?
I wouldn't just dump them for anything, but I'd move one of them for Hiller, while trying to also move one of Fernandez or Thomas at the same time.

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10-16-2007, 01:30 PM
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unless we are getting rid of a goalie we definitely dont need another one...

anaheim doesnt have the money to afford Murray and I doubt they would view Bochenski as their savior.

its not a good fit for us unless it becomes a three way deal.


then again none of us here mention sturm in many trade discussions since he was a high profile resigning last season and got a nt protection.

he did play along time out in calfornia though. i kind of think he is the type of guy anaheim would love to get and if they were shipping a goalie to a team like phoenix and someone like Morris was going to end up in Boston perhaps the whole thing would make sense to all three teams.

anaheim is also rumored willing to use a top draft pick to make a trade work so if phoenix didnt want a goalie, then there is still possibilities to work it all out.

not the best possible fit for us though if i have to be honest. i think theres easier deals for chia to make if we are trying to get a number 2 dman like i think we are

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Bochenski and Axelsson for Todd Marchant and a 2nd. Preferably Edmonton's.

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10-16-2007, 02:14 PM
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I don't like the proposal at all, mostly because Boston has done terribly with developing their own goalies for the NHL. Also we've gone from having little depth at wing to finally having a surplus. Unless Murray has a groin replacement Bochenski is a decent insurance policy.

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I really doubt that Bochenski is the type of player that Burke wants

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If Niedermeyer indicates a comeback they might part with Beauchemin and that's about the only situation I see that could work for both sides.

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I fail to see why the Ducks would deal a young, promising netminder for a 1 dimensional offensive player who can't crack the lineup of what is not exactly one of the league's offensive juggernauts.

The obvious answer would be to offer Murray, but again, I think they'd have limited interest.

My guess is for Hiller, they'd want Kobasew. Maybe Axe. He'd be a great fit in Anaheim, he and Pahlsson together.
No sense in this thread, are we to trade Fernandez for a 4th round pick?

For your idea I think that is too costly if we have to give them Kobasew. They would have to make it a ridiculious proposition as we have goalies.

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No sense in this thread, are we to trade Fernandez for a 4th round pick?

For your idea I think that is too costly if we have to give them Kobasew. They would have to make it a ridiculious proposition as we have goalies.
I don't know what Manny would get, and you'll notice I said I'd try to move Thomas or Fernandez.

Kobasew for Hiller is not too costly at all in my mind. Hiller looks like he could be a solid up and comer.

Kobasew for Hiller
Thomas, Alberts, draft pick for a #3/4 dman

In a few years that leaves you with a good, young 1/2 goalie tandem.

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10-16-2007, 03:45 PM
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In a few years that leaves you with a good, young 1/2 goalie tandem.

in a few years, Hiller will be 28-29, and not exactly "young".

With Fernandez and Thomas I see no point in going for Hiller

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Hiller makes $3.2 million this year...

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I don't know what Manny would get, and you'll notice I said I'd try to move Thomas or Fernandez.

Kobasew for Hiller is not too costly at all in my mind. Hiller looks like he could be a solid up and comer.

Kobasew for Hiller
Thomas, Alberts, draft pick for a #3/4 dman

In a few years that leaves you with a good, young 1/2 goalie tandem.
Had we had a 30 year old Murray no it is not but the fact remains that we do have goalies. Who would replace Kobasew, Bochenski?

and yikes what a salary he carries, that doesn't fit. PC would have to dump Fernandez for a 6th or waive him.

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i'm not trying to start a fight. but to think any team is going to pay for bochenski is delusional.

thats just my humble opinion. time will tell. but remember this post.

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in a few years, Hiller will be 28-29, and not exactly "young".

With Fernandez and Thomas I see no point in going for Hiller
Hiller is 25 right now, and doesn't turn 26 until next February. That is young for a goalie.

At $3.2m that changes everything though. Wasn't aware of that.

And while I like Kobasew, he's replaceable.

Whatever, I'm just kind of throwing this stuff out there, just food for thought.

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Hiller is 25 right now, and doesn't turn 26 until next February. That is young for a goalie.

At $3.2m that changes everything though. Wasn't aware of that.

And while I like Kobasew, he's replaceable.

Whatever, I'm just kind of throwing this stuff out there, just food for thought.
In PC we trust.

Anything he does won't cost me any $$.

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Don't want to see Kobesew in any deal right now.

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I'm always nervous with Swiss players. Like Russians, they have a tendency to head home because of no income tax (though unlike Russians, Switzerland is also a pleasant place to live).

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