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10-17-2007, 05:17 PM
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With Billy Smith in net, the playoff duties are well in hand; however, the Rangers, needing a strong regular season goalie the share the load take a man with a man with 372 regular season wins and only 209 losses, G Andy Moog.

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10-17-2007, 05:36 PM
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In a move that I'm sure will be mocked and ridiculed by everyone here, the Ottawa 67s select:



Roberto Luongo

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10-17-2007, 05:37 PM
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In a move that I'm sure will be mocked and ridiculed by everyone here, the Ottawa 67s select:



Roberto Luongo
Well.... Once Rollins and Vernon were gone, he topped my list. Seriously.

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10-17-2007, 05:38 PM
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Some might be interrested to see this site:

http://www.hdhockey.tv/

A lot of vintage games, form the 1950's and more. Never saw that much hockey DVD'S for sale. Even saw a 2 hours DVD on Aaron Downey!
Probably a 30-minute replay of that punch on Jesse Boulerice...

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10-17-2007, 05:48 PM
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Well.... Once Rollins and Vernon were gone, he topped my list. Seriously.
I'm glad that Moog went before Luongo. Moog's one of the best back-ups in this draft. When picking a back-up, you're not only looking for a high quality goalie, but a guy who can handle being the back-up. (There are a couple goalies in this draft who rate in that 30-35 range, but would I want them as a back-up? No. Too much of a distraction).

Luongo has shown on the international stage that he's fine as a back-up. There's still a couple goalies I would pick ahead of him, but he's had five or six seasons where he's been one of the top 10 goalies in the league, and three or four where he was in the top five. And now he has a great playoff on his resume. There were years in which Florida would have likely had 10-15 wins if not for Luongo. They were that bad.

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10-17-2007, 05:55 PM
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Pleasantly suprised this guy is still here. He had success in the OHL and success in the NHL. A great two-way player who went to a couple of all-star games and had three 40-goal seasons. Good size. A TON of Devils franchise records.

The pride of Oshawa, Ontario: John MacLean


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When picking a back-up, you're not only looking for a high quality goalie, but a guy who can handle being the back-up. (There are a couple goalies in this draft who rate in that 30-35 range, but would I want them as a back-up? No. Too much of a distraction).

Luongo has shown on the international stage that he's fine as a back-up.
Precisely why I took Luongo instead of a couple other particular goalies who have longer resumes. Some guys can be a #1 but their ego would prevent them from being solid backup.

Before anybody says that he's only won one playoff series, that's the same number Chuck Rayner won. It's a team sport and one player can only do so much. IMO Luongo deserved the Vezina in both `04 and `07.

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10-17-2007, 06:21 PM
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Some guys can be a #1 but their ego would prevent them from being solid backup.
I don't think I understand the reasoning here. There are three players on the team I want to be ego-maniacs -- the 1st line scorer and the two goaltenders. Defensemen have to play as a unit, but goaltenders are kinda back there on their own. There should be a rivalry between the two, because backups shouldn't be content as backups.

You want skaters to "know their role" and do what the team needs ... but every goaltender has the exact same role (you don't need to balance Gretzkys with Carbonneaus), and, with the exceptions of a few lockerroom guys, all goaltenders are either "helpful" (ie: in the game) or "useless" (ie: not in the game). There are no 4th-line, role-playing goaltenders. As long as Luongo isn't stealing the starter's glove and hiding it in the sauna, there should be a rivalry and there SHOULD be competitiveness.

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D Dollard St. Laurent Was known as a superb defensive player, who also had an offensive touch. I believe he's the only defenseman remaining that placed in the top 4 in playoff scoring five times. (1,3,3,3,4)


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10-17-2007, 06:33 PM
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Happy birthday to the champ. pitseleh is 22 today. (I'm still the only one who can say I've beat you in the playoffs).
He's only 22 and already won an ATD?

Enh, flash in the pan.

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10-17-2007, 06:45 PM
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In a move that I'm sure will be mocked and ridiculed by everyone here, the Ottawa 67s select:



Roberto Luongo
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10-17-2007, 06:46 PM
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10-17-2007, 06:48 PM
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Okay, as I think some of you may have guessed, Luongo was my boy. But anyways, pick comin within the hour...

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Luongo? Bah what's he won, like one playoff series?

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Pleasantly suprised this guy is still here. He had success in the OHL and success in the NHL. A great two-way player who went to a couple of all-star games and had three 40-goal seasons. Good size. A TON of Devils franchise records.

The pride of Oshawa, Ontario: John MacLean

Nice pick, ck. Terrific for the fourth line. He was the highest-rated forward on our list after Riser. MacLean has a very good scorer's touch, lots of grit and excellent defensive awareness. Good character and leadership, too. One of the best fourth line wingers in the draft, and good enough defensively to slot him in with Carbo.

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I'm for dropping the time limit to 6 hours.

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Ooh, our next guy is still here! Winnipeg selects defensive winger Duane Sutter.

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10-17-2007, 06:56 PM
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Oh yeah, Happy Birthday pit! Have a good one sir.

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10-17-2007, 07:13 PM
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wanted john maclean, but...

seattle selects very underrated D jim neilson.

neilson, an anchor of the 60s rangers blueline, was among the league leaders in TOI in the late 60s. known for his solid defense and bodychecking while playing a clean game. he was very capable offensively, seeing big minutes on the rangers PP.
he started his career under the tutelage of doug harvey and later mentored the young brad park.
2nd all star in '68. played in all star game in '67 and '71.
twice in the top 5 in norris voting. ('68 and '70)

happy birthday pitseleh!


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10-17-2007, 07:26 PM
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Did Nalyd send a list before going to work? Or did Sturm send a list before calling it a night?

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Thanks for the birthday wishes guys. All I'm asking for is a pick tonight.

It sucks having a birthday that always comes up in the middle of midterms.

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447 Nalyd Psycho & Sturminator - Oakland Seals ON THE CLOCK

448 VanIslander - New York Raiders - sooooo close yet sooooo far see you in 9 hours
449 BM67 - New Jersey Devils
450 Nalyd Psycho & Sturminator - Oakland Seals

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10-17-2007, 08:42 PM
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Happy birthday, Pitseleh. Hopefully (for the sake of my team) you do some drunk drafting tonight.

To respond to Sturminator (from the Part III thread): according to my research, Hooley Smith played all three forward positions (and, in order of preference, it would be C-RW-LW). However, I've actually moved him to RW on the second line. I think this gives me great scoring balance and two-way play on my second line, and some size, toughness and sheer goal-scoring ability on the top line.

Although both of Smith's all-star seasons were at centre, he only played RW (on Nels Stewart's line) prior to 1931 when they didn't have AS teams. As a RW, Smith had one season as a Hart finalist and 2 seasons in the top ten in scoring.

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10-17-2007, 08:48 PM
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IMO, your team look much better in this configuration.

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wanted john maclean, but...

seattle selects very underrated D jim neilson.

neilson, an anchor of the 60s rangers blueline, was among the league leaders in TOI in the late 60s. known for his solid defense and bodychecking while playing a clean game. he was very capable offensively, seeing big minutes on the rangers PP.
he started his career under the tutelage of doug harvey and later mentored the young brad park.
2nd all star in '68. played in all star game in '67 and '71.
twice in the top 5 in norris voting. ('68 and '70)
This is a fine pick. I was debating between Neilson and St. Laurent with my last pick. I decided to go with St. Laurent because of his great two-way play in the playoffs along side Geoffrion and Harvey when they won all those cups. I also think St. laurent is a better defensive player. Still there is little difference between the two.
I think Neilson is better than a few defenseman drafted before him.

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