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10-18-2007, 02:43 PM
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I'm not really sure there is a deal to be made. If the Habs move Kovalev they need to replace him with a top 6 fwd. The reason the Stars would want to get Kovalev is because they need top 6 talent. Unless a Modano or Morrow has fallen out of grace in Dallas, I just do not see Dal and Mtl as trade partners, unless it's a straight salary dump and Dallas is sending prospects and draft picks. Which would mean that MTL then has to find offensive help elsewhere.
Well it didn't take much to get Ribs last year, maybe they'll have the same sort of mind with Kovalev.

I'm not saying it'll be a Daley for Kovalev deal, lol, but Gainey's thrown us a curveball before, maybe he'd do it again.

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10-18-2007, 02:47 PM
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Dallas has some serious issues offensively, I wouldn't mind if they took a chance on Kovalev, since he doesn't seem to happy in Montreal and might want a change of scenery. Does he have a NTC?

What would Dallas have to give up to get him? Something along the lines of a deal involving Boucher?
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Well it didn't take much to get Ribs last year, maybe they'll have the same sort of mind with Kovalev.

I'm not saying it'll be a Daley for Kovalev deal, lol, but Gainey's thrown us a curveball before, maybe he'd do it again.
I haven't seen many Stars games, what's Winchester like?

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10-18-2007, 03:03 PM
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I haven't seen many Stars games, what's Winchester like?
Neither have I...the downside of being a Stars fan in Toronto without Center Ice, lol.

To be honest I thought he'd be sent down to Iowa but he's played in every game so far, usually as a 4th line energy forward. 1 assist, 17 PIM's.

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I'd want Jokinen.

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10-18-2007, 03:31 PM
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Jokinen.......please?

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10-18-2007, 03:35 PM
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Yes, but it would seriously thin down the Habs' scoring up front, which is already a serious problem. Kovalev has two goals and four points, which is as many as any forward on the team. The Habs need Kovalev more than they need Boucher.
Koivu has 5 points. Besides, winning comes from the crease out. I could live with mediocre scoring up front if it meant we can get some decent offense from the backend while preventing more goals from being scored against us. Just look at New Jersey (not so much now, but the last 10 years or so).

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Koivu has 5 points.
My bad. But that still puts Kovalev second in points and first in goals (tied, of course).

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Besides, winning comes from the crease out. I could live with mediocre scoring up front if it meant we can get some decent offense from the backend while preventing more goals from being scored against us.
The problem is that more scoring from the back-end means more scoring on the PP rather than at even-strength. While I'm sure the Habs could slot in Boucher instead of Souray and have a reasonable facsimile of last year's PP (although lack of Kovalev may hurt a bit there), the Habs' PP is currently doing okay and the need for the team is even-strength scoring.

Plus the Habs need more scoring at forward and are already overloaded with NHL defensemen.

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10-18-2007, 04:09 PM
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Jere Lehtinen ... Saku would love to play with him.

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Dallas has some serious issues offensively, I wouldn't mind if they took a chance on Kovalev, since he doesn't seem to happy in Montreal and might want a change of scenery. Does he have a NTC?

What would Dallas have to give up to get him? Something along the lines of a deal involving Boucher?
Prove it.

If I remember correctly, he said that he loved playing in Montreal.

Also you say that Dallas is struggling offensively, so they may be interested in Kovalev. WE'RE struggling offensively, and you're saying that we should give him up?


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Prove it.

If I remember correctly, he said that he loved playing in Montreal.

Also you say that Dallas is struggling offensively, so they may be interested in Kovalev. WE'RE struggling offensively, and you're saying that we should give him up?

Take a chill pill.

The OP is simply asking whether a trade could work out between two teams without throwing any hard facts around. No need to jump his throat.

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10-18-2007, 05:16 PM
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I dunno. I like Boucher but we need Kovalev more than we'd need Boucher. Our offense is no better than Dallas' if not worse.

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10-18-2007, 05:32 PM
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The only way I see us moving Kovalev is if we could sign Forsberg and deal Kovalev for draft picks or youth to clear enough capspace

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10-18-2007, 05:34 PM
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Kovalev won't be traded. He's happy in Montreal despite the medias.

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Zubov, Norstrom are interesting .... of course the most interesting is Jussi Jokinen but I seriously doubt you guys would trade him. Its good for you to get Kovalev cause he actually likes to play and does play welll with Ribeiro.

Lehtinen is interesting but not for Kovalev ... unless getting Lehtinen would entice Selanne to come here so he can play on a line with him and Saku lol

on another note:

To Montreal: Todd Fedoruk
To Dallas: Garth Murray

what you think? Habs need an enforcer

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The only way I see us moving Kovalev is if we could sign Forsberg and deal Kovalev for draft picks or youth to clear enough capspace
As of right now, we have 5 M $ left in cap space...

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10-18-2007, 05:45 PM
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Zubov, Norstrom are interesting .... of course the most interesting is Jussi Jokinen but I seriously doubt you guys would trade him. Its good for you to get Kovalev cause he actually likes to play and does play welll with Ribeiro.

Lehtinen is interesting but not for Kovalev ... unless getting Lehtinen would entice Selanne to come here so he can play on a line with him and Saku lol

on another note:

To Montreal: Todd Fedoruk
To Dallas: Garth Murray

what you think? Habs need an enforcer
Dallas doesn't need any more centers, with Mo, Ribeiro, Barnes and Halpern down the middle (Ott's also a center).

Fedoruk could be had for a pick.

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Prove it.

If I remember correctly, he said that he loved playing in Montreal.

Also you say that Dallas is struggling offensively, so they may be interested in Kovalev. WE'RE struggling offensively, and you're saying that we should give him up?

Wow, no need to get cranky, it was just speculation.

Good thing the rest of this board doesn't share your illogical attitude.

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10-18-2007, 05:55 PM
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Dallas has some serious issues offensively, I wouldn't mind if they took a chance on Kovalev, since he doesn't seem to happy in Montreal and might want a change of scenery. Does he have a NTC?

What would Dallas have to give up to get him? Something along the lines of a deal involving Boucher?
Personally, I still think Montreal needs a top four defenseman even more than they need offense. The offense will come if we could defend better and get the puck out our own zone properly. Also, players like Brisebois and Bouillon are ok defensemen in a limited role. When they start to play too many minutes and, as the season rolls on, I believe that they loose a lot of their effectiveness. I like Streit, but I would prefer to see him as a fifth, preferably with a physical, stay at home defenseman.

In my personal view, if Dallas is interested in Kovalev and are ready to deal Boucher, I would hope Montreal seriously considers it. Not only could Boucher help our defense, I think Montreal gets even more cap space.

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Boucher is a decent candidate, but Lehtinen would be my ideal choice. No chance, though. But I think that Lehtinen would actually improve team scoring. I even think he would be a better fit with Grabovski and Kostitsyn, the guy who can get them going and turn them into a real, NHL-calibre 2nd line.

Apart from Lehtinen, or Boucher with overpayment/roster juggling, I don't see anything exciting on Dallas.

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Kovalev does not have an NTC. I'd jump on a Boucher for Kovalev deal. Our D corps would get a significant boost.
Yeah, Boucher would work for us. But then we'd have a hole up front.

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Dallas has some serious issues offensively, I wouldn't mind if they took a chance on Kovalev, since he doesn't seem to happy in Montreal and might want a change of scenery. Does he have a NTC?

What would Dallas have to give up to get him? Something along the lines of a deal involving Boucher?
for Boucher ? no problem, we will pay kovy's plane tickets !

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Kovalev?? How about fifty bucks?

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