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10-23-2007, 10:34 PM
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Trades to make just for fun

This team seems like it's missing something. It actually looks like the old Rangers with high profile players that don't produce. I also know it's only 8 games into the season, but this is just talk.

I know it won't happen but what if we traded Jagr, Straka, and Shanny away. What can we get? You think the players would be hungry enough to play well and win?Then go with lines of:

Prucha-gomez-Cally
Dawes-Drury-Avery
Hossa-Dubinsky-Bourret
Hollweg-Betts-Orr

Would you be excited to see all the youngsters playing?

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10-23-2007, 10:45 PM
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they wouldn't be any worse or lose any more then what is happening now.

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10-23-2007, 10:48 PM
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This team seems like it's missing something. It actually looks like the old Rangers with high profile players that don't produce. I also know it's only 8 games into the season, but this is just talk.

I know it won't happen but what if we traded Jagr, Straka, and Shanny away. What can we get? You think the players would be hungry enough to play well and win?Then go with lines of:

Prucha-gomez-Cally
Dawes-Drury-Avery
Hossa-Dubinsky-Bourret
Hollweg-Betts-Orr

Would you be excited to see all the youngsters playing?
Well if we're trading Jagr, Straka, and Shanny away then wouldn't we be getting some pretty good players in return who might be more able to help than guys like Dawes, Hossa, Hollweg, and Orr?

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10-23-2007, 10:48 PM
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This team seems like it's missing something. It actually looks like the old Rangers with high profile players that don't produce. I also know it's only 8 games into the season, but this is just talk.

I know it won't happen but what if we traded Jagr, Straka, and Shanny away. What can we get? You think the players would be hungry enough to play well and win?Then go with lines of:

Prucha-gomez-Cally
Dawes-Drury-Avery
Hossa-Dubinsky-Bourret
Hollweg-Betts-Orr

Would you be excited to see all the youngsters playing?
i won't mind bringing youngsters up...

rangers can deal shanny back to detroit...

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10-23-2007, 11:37 PM
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Shanny TRIES... and he's a real teammate... he's the one in the ref's ear... I think in the long run, if you traded him in this scenario, you'd be screwed... need SOME leadership [besides just Drury].

Jagr.. Im starting to think could fetch something... well I mean he could ALWAYS fetch something... but Im leaning towards the group that doesnt care if he was dealt... cant say one way or the other yet.

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10-24-2007, 12:11 AM
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Shanny is still a 2nd line player in my opinion. He's leading the league in shots. That's more than Ovechkin, Malkin, Crosby, Kovalchuk, Heatley, etc. It's only a matter of time before some of those start going in. I think Gomez is the ideal center for Shanahan. Nope, I don't think him and Jagr are destined to play together. But then again, there's the option of Shanny being Jagr's LW. The two have always worked well together on the powerplay, and it was never given a real chance 5 on 5. Anyway, enough with the possible line combos.

Wouldn't trade Jagr unless we're in last place by the deadline.
He's a steal at the salary portion that we pay him and even once the rest of the team gets going, Jagr is still going to be the offensive leader. He's such a valuable player to have. Better off keeping him unless we're getting Pronger.

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if there was ateam that wanted to give a good young player for shanny and a pick.......i would do it in a heartbeat

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Well if we're trading Jagr, Straka, and Shanny away then wouldn't we be getting some pretty good players in return who might be more able to help than guys like Dawes, Hossa, Hollweg, and Orr?
Dawes was killing it out there tonight. If the rest of our team played as hard as Dawes, Girardi and Callahan we'd be rolling teams like theres no tomorrow.

I might be alone, but I think Jagr's weaving through the neutral zone and refusal to dump the puck is really hurting the team. We've got a lot of speed with the younger guys, I wish we would start taking advantage of it. Like late in the 3rd period tonight when Dawes banked the puck off the boards and Cally broke in behind the D, that was beautiful (too bad we don't get points for posts ). Granted the puck took a friendly bounce, but thats the kinda play we need I think.

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10-24-2007, 12:33 AM
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if there was ateam that wanted to give a good young player for shanny and a pick.......i would do it in a heartbeat
define good young player with a few examples please.

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10-24-2007, 12:46 AM
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This could be Shannys last season. He has no trade value untill at least the deadline to a playoff bound team. Untill than no GM is giving up a "good" young player for Shannys swan song.

I see on the other board the Habs fans are making silly offers for Jagr. Not sure Jagr would even entertain playing outside of NY at this point. Regardless, I believe the deal with Washington paying half his $$$ might not even be transferable to a third team which basicly makes him untradeable to any team, again untill at least the deadline. Maybe

Straka, another valuable player if you could get him but again it would be a one year deal for a guy who loves being in NY. He has said if not NY he's going home to Czech

Hossa - worth more to NYR than any return, unless its some package

The following are young talented and imo the future of the NYR, or at leat part of it and should not be traded.

Gomez
Drury
Prucha
Callahan
Dawes
Bourett
Cherepenov
Anisimov
Korpikoski
Tyutin
Girardi
Staal


This team doesnt even really have any good trade bait. I'm afraid what you see is what you get



Everyone else is worth more to the NYR than their return would be untill at least the deadline and some desperate team ( like ATL) would make a move for anyupgrade to the roster for the playoffs.

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You forgot Lundqvist in that list, cycle.

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define good young player with a few examples please.
morris(pheonix)

horton(florida)

stempniak(st. louis)

wolski(colorado)

or good solid young prospect(19-21 years old...forward with a very good upside....i.e. bourret from atlanta)

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define good young player with a few examples please.
If you're asking me... Im gonna be "crazy" and say something like Kopitar, Toews, Backstrom, but I know that'll never happen... just saying...

But, I dunno.. Mueller, a Johnson? Whatever...

Out of those mentioned above, only Horton would I say, cuz he's a C... Wolski is nice.. but Im hoping Cherepanov turns out better... etc etc.

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10-24-2007, 05:25 AM
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trade Montoya, Hollweg, 4th for Antropov, 2nd

Hossa Antropov Jagr
Prucha Gomez Shanahan
Callahan Drury Avery
Straka Betts Dubinsky

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10-24-2007, 05:57 AM
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Blues - Rucinsky & Jay McKee
NYR - 2nd Round pick, Paul Mara & Marek Malik

Wild - Boogaard
NYR - Hossa, Orr & 3rd Round pick



Right Now

LW --------- C ------ RW
Rucinsky - Straka - Jagr
Shanahan - Gomez - Callahan
Boogaard - Betts - Avery
Dawes - Drury - Prucha

Girardi - Tyutin
Staal - McKee
Rozsival - Pock/Struds

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Blues - Rucinsky & Jay McKee
NYR - 2nd Round pick, Paul Mara & Marek Malik

Wild - Boogaard
NYR - Hossa, Orr & 3rd Round pick



Right Now

LW --------- C ------ RW
Rucinsky - Straka - Jagr
Shanahan - Gomez - Callahan
Boogaard - Betts - Avery
Dawes - Drury - Prucha

Girardi - Tyutin
Staal - McKee
Rozsival - Pock/Struds
Wow.... those suck about as much as JOrts... nice going.

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10-24-2007, 08:20 AM
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If you're going to trade those guys it would look like this:
To DET: Shanahan
To NYR: 1st round pick

To EDM: Jagr, Straka
TO NYR: 1st round pick, Joni Pitkanen

Even those are a stretch. None of them are going anywhere any way, but these deadline deals should bring in a couple of nice first rounders.

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Blues - Rucinsky & Jay McKee
NYR - 2nd Round pick, Paul Mara & Marek Malik

Wild - Boogaard
NYR - Hossa, Orr & 3rd Round pick
Wow, both of those deals are steeply priced for us... No thanks.

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Blues - Rucinsky & Jay McKee
NYR - 2nd Round pick, Paul Mara & Marek Malik

Wild - Boogaard
NYR - Hossa, Orr & 3rd Round pick



Right Now

LW --------- C ------ RW
Rucinsky - Straka - Jagr
Shanahan - Gomez - Callahan
Boogaard - Betts - Avery
Dawes - Drury - Prucha

Girardi - Tyutin
Staal - McKee
Rozsival - Pock/Struds
Why in hell would you put Boogaard with those guys?! I believe he has scored 7 goals in 7 junior and professional hockey seasons (http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php3?pid=50621). And you want him, taking a regular shift, on the 3rd line? I hope your confusing him with someone else. And I don't think the Blues will be giving up on McKee, despite his injury problems for two upcoming UFA's, unless they happen to really like Malik and Mara.

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morris(pheonix)

horton(florida)

stempniak(st. louis)

wolski(colorado)


or good solid young prospect(19-21 years old...forward with a very good upside....i.e. bourret from atlanta)
For Shanahan and a pick? Good luck with that...

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Well if we're trading Jagr, Straka, and Shanny away then wouldn't we be getting some pretty good players in return who might be more able to help than guys like Dawes, Hossa, Hollweg, and Orr?
Yes, you're right but I'm not going to put fiction players into the lineup and making fake trades. Since I don't know what Jagr and everyone else can fetch, I'm just leaving it to draft picks and prospects and not players that are in the league. Obbviously if we get a young NHL player then he would fit into the lineup somewhere.

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[QUOTE=Bretzky-StaalFor07;10901737]Shanny is still a 2nd line player in my opinion. He's leading the league in shots. That's more than Ovechkin, Malkin, Crosby, Kovalchuk, Heatley, etc. It's only a matter of time before some of those start going in.QUOTE]

He might be leading the league in shots but that stat is misleading. How many quality shots does he have. It seems most of his shots are from odd angles. There is a big difference of shooting the puck in a scoring position from just shooting the puck.

Also shooting the puck from any angle is all fine and dandy if you have teamates who are willing to stand in front of the net and score some rebounds. Guess what. The Rangers don't have these type of players really. So most of these bad angle shots just get easily blocked and goes right back to the other team since not one of our players is in front of the net. It's basically a fancy turnover. He would be better off sometimes to just try to find and open player and pass the puck.

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trade Montoya, Hollweg, 4th for Antropov, 2nd

Hossa Antropov Jagr
Prucha Gomez Shanahan
Callahan Drury Avery
Straka Betts Dubinsky
HORRIBLE HORRIBLE HORRIBLE! Our strength is the C position, you don't trade for a center and have Drury on the 3rd line!!! Our core at C is Gomez and Drury and the 3rd line coming from within (Dubinsky, AA, etc.).

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morris(pheonix)

horton(florida)

stempniak(st. louis)

wolski(colorado)

or good solid young prospect(19-21 years old...forward with a very good upside....i.e. bourret from atlanta)
You're not getting Horton. He signed an extension and is there to stay.

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You think SJ would trade Cheechoo, 1st round pick, and a prospect (Wishart or Setoguchi) for Jagr?

Cheechoo is 27 and is a little older than what we'd want (we'd probably want a 25 year old prospect) and he's slumping. He's definitely a goal scorer, I can see him playing well with Gomez or Drury.

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