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10-25-2007, 11:59 AM
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eklund on jagr

i mean....i'm speechless. i wish i could get inside eklund's head and look at his thought process...or lack thereof. im gonna start a site called hotrockbuzz.....first story tommorow will be about gretzky's return to the ice (HR4)

mods, if you need to lock the thread, i feel ya, but i'd liek to hear what people around here think about jagr being moved (i would assume 98% of us are against).


also, we know how eveyrone feels about ek

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Hell no im not against it. Id say go for it.

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10-25-2007, 12:02 PM
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Jagr - in accordance with his very formidable contract - is worth a whole lot
Especially to The Rangers.
If he were to be dealt - it would have to be for:

Super prospect
1st round pic + lower pic
1-2 established NHL:ers

For this

Anyone can be dealt

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10-25-2007, 12:05 PM
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If he starts reverting to "Captials Jagr" I would not be opposed to moving him at all.

I would imagine they could get a great package for him.

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I'm sure this all started because Jagr was saying something along the lines of, start up the trade talks, but I'm worthless no one would want me - all in jest.

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link please.

And, Eklund is not anyone's "boy" here. Title changed to prevent the impending flamefest that ensues everytime you use that term.

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I would also add, that if people are just going to flame the report, the thread will be closed. If people want to discuss what this guy writes, fine.

It seems to be the people who like to flame him are the ones who constantly talk about him.

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10-25-2007, 12:40 PM
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link please.

And, Eklund is not anyone's "boy" here. Title changed to prevent the impending flamefest that ensues everytime you use that term.
I feel dirty, but here it is: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=10526

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LOL, the price would be so high.

Id do jagr for kopitar, straight up.

maybe jagr for hemsky+ 1st or 2nd.

jagr for weber and radulov lol

non seem even remotely possible...this is the second time eklund has reported this

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I love it.

"Jagr may be tradebait" That statements means absolutely nothing. I may be offered a contract by the Rangers.

Then he follows it up with ""More to come."

Brilliant. Game, set and match.

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i feel like eklund works like this- he got a call from someone who said something vague about another GM asking slats about Jagr.....and here you have your rumour du jour.

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Eklund is a moron (e5)

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I love Jagr as a NYR but if he were to be dealt, it would have to include:

2- 1st rounders and an NHL ready top 6 foward.

If thats the case Im on it. Lets just hope the 1st rounders wpould be used right ( Jessiman, Brendl, Lundmark, Malhotra ), sure you get it.


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This is just a direct result of the TSN piece the other day speculating as fact that Renney spends 50% of his time tending to Jagr.

Jagr is struggling. It's no secret. Gomez wants to use a speed rush attack (which Jagr use to be awesome at in his younger and MUCH lighter days). Unfortunately, Jagr and thick lower body now prefer a protecting the puck down low cycle. Until he can find success once again, he'll continue to brood.

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Eklund has very indepth spEKulation. (Sorry I couldn't resist) There's no way this is going to happen, particularly not now. Unless Jagr has asked to be traded behind the scenes.

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I love Jagr as a NYR but if he were to be dealt, it would have to include:

2- 1st rounders and an NHL ready top 6 foward.

If thats the case Im on it. Lets just hope the 1st rounders wpould be used right ( Jessiman, Brendl, Lundmark ), sure you get it.
throw in Malhotra

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throw in Malhotra
Manny Malhotra isn't a bust. Despite never living up to 1st line hype that some people believed, he will be a very serviceable 3rd line center for years to come. Hell, I'd love to have Manny of this team.

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he will be a very serviceable 3rd line center for years to come.
Which is probably what he was supposed to be in the first place. Never understood the idea that all the sudden this kid would become a goal scorer in the NHL when he wasn't at any other level he played.

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I love Jagr as a NYR but if he were to be dealt, it would have to include:

2- 1st rounders and an NHL ready top 6 foward.

If thats the case Im on it. Lets just hope the 1st rounders wpould be used right ( Jessiman, Brendl, Lundmark ), sure you get it.
It's gotta be more than that. A absolute STUD prospect/very young NHLer of the Kopitar/Kane/Ryan variety would have to be involved.

Draft years are simply too much of a crapshoot; sometimes there are simply no impact players available. This was the case in the 1999 Draft when we took Brendl and Lundmark. As much crap as the Rangers get for those picks, there wasn't a whole lot to choose from.

See for yourself:http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl1999e.html

There's virtually no one taken after Brendl (with the exception of maybe Havlat all the way at #26) who became anything special. What a year to have two first rounders

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throw in Malhotra
Yes, thank you. How could I forget Manny. bvut I think alot of Mannys career was shot down cause of the way he was treated as a rookie. thats just my opinon. But overall turned out to be a 1st round bust.

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Manny Malhotra isn't a bust. Despite never living up to 1st line hype that some people believed, he will be a very serviceable 3rd line center for years to come. Hell, I'd love to have Manny of this team.
Yes he was a bust. He wasnt projected to be a servicable 3rd liner,, thats not why you draft players in the first round,so they can be useful 3rd liners.

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It's gotta be more than that. A absolute STUD prospect/very young NHLer of the Kopitar/Kane/Ryan variety would have to be involved.

Draft years are simply too much of a crapshoot; sometimes there are simply no impact players available. This was the case in the 1999 Draft when we took Brendl and Lundmark. As much crap as the Rangers get for those picks, there wasn't a whole lot to choose from.

See for yourself:http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl1999e.html

There's virtually no one taken after Brendl (with the exception of maybe Havlat all the way at #26) who became anything special. What a year to have two first rounders
Ok yes you are right. But i wonder was that year projected to be a great year for first rounders?

Cause it could have been a weak draft. Anyway. I would say you are right were wit would have to be a solid stud, but to add 2 first rounders to that, maybe is just asking to much, dont ya think?

Lets also not forget that Jagr is 35 and not in his prime at 30/31.

that has to be the worst year in the NHL draft history for busts. 1999,what a horrible year.

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Yes he was a bust. He wasnt projected to be a servicable 3rd liner,, thats not why you draft players in the first round,so they can be useful 3rd liners.
That's where you're completely off. The 1st round is for scorers, 2nd round for 2nd line players, 3rd & after for grit and hard workers.

The Manny pick is no different than Kyle Chipchura for the Canadians. He will never be the 1st line center, but he will be a great leader and probably career (very good) 3rd line center.

Manny had the character and hockey game sense in spades. Just never had the hands of a scorer. These players are VERY much worth a spot in the 1st round. (Opposed to picking the most enigmatic, pure lazy scorer every year hoping they'll make it, ie. Brendl). Character players like these mean just as much to teams and championships as pure scorers.

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Yes he was a bust. He wasnt projected to be a servicable 3rd liner,, thats not why you draft players in the first round,so they can be useful 3rd liners.
OK, so what do you consider a guy who had never scored more than 16 goals and 51 points in juniors should project to be?

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OK, so what do you consider a guy who had never scored more than 16 goals and 51 points in juniors should project to be?
Then why draft him in the first round? And at #6? (if I'm not mistaken)

Honestly, I don't consider him a "bust" per se...I just think it was a bad draft choice.

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