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Randy Jones hit on Patrice Bergeron [Youtube at post #158]

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10-27-2007, 04:40 PM
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You people do know that Jones wasn't skating in slowmo. Yes it was boarding but no intent to injure. That SAME FRICKING PLAY happens a billion times a year but THIS ONE ended badly.


I hope Patrice is okay, I really like the kid but there should be no suspension and there was ZERO intent to injure.

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Also ******* the commentator. If you don't see the video, you would have thought that Jones was the victim.

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WOW JUST WOW.

If this guy does not get at least 30 games this is a disgrace.

His back is to him the whole time and he drives his head into the glass. *** man show some ****ing respect. I am so disgusted right now. If there ever was any gray area on what is a cheap shot and what isn't this is exhibit A.

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This needs a suspension no doubt that I have seen it. Looking at the hit, Bergeron didn't go head first, it looked like it juts knocked him out, so I don't think there will be any spinal damage, but it does look nasty. Jones really does need to be more responsible though. Hopefully 20 or so games on the sidelines will help him realize that.

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He should be banned, thrown in jail, and never seen again. Better?
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You people do know that Jones wasn't skating in slowmo. Yes it was boarding but no intent to injure. That SAME FRICKING PLAY happens a billion times a year but THIS ONE ended badly.


I hope Patrice is okay, I really like the kid but there should be no suspension and there was ZERO intent to injure.
no suspension? you're a complete moron.

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10-27-2007, 04:42 PM
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I pray to god there isn't any spinal cord damage.

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Nice

You've never played competitive hockey have you?
Thats the exact thought I had, he for sure hasn't ever played hockey before.

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And the legality of the Downie hit can be (and has been) debated.
No...its cant be. The hit was illegal. It is clearly illegal in the rules. He was suspended because the hit was illegal. A hell of a lot of flyer fans agree it was illegal.

The only ones debating it are ignorant flyer fans.

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I defend it. And I think it's pure garbage you all are acting like it was crime.

Patrice stopped on a dime 4 feet from the boards, stuck his butt out, with a dude bearing down on him at full speed. Randy was sooooo trying to deliver a hard hit that he skated away after the puck within milliseconds of making contact.

If Patrice didn't hit his head on the divide it wouldn't even have been noticed except.

Everyone saying, "well he didn't have to push him" I mean what the hell. It's a contact sport and when a guy stops directly infront of you and you make contact with him are you supposed to fall down?

I seriously hope Patrice is OK and that's the most important thing. But this was just a fluke and you all need bigger balls because you're pussifying this sport.


Give me a ****ing break. Jones was staring at his number the entire time before he hit him. He had no right to hit him from behind the way he did.

None.

It's laughable to even try and attempt to defend that hit.

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don't think he should get suspended, illegal hit of course, but clearly unintentional, hits from behind happen, this is hockey, jones probably feels worse than anybody, thou the injury could be the worst, this hit is nowhere near downies or boulerice's incident those were intentional

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You people do know that Jones wasn't skating in slowmo. Yes it was boarding but no intent to injure. That SAME FRICKING PLAY happens a billion times a year but THIS ONE ended badly.


I hope Patrice is okay, I really like the kid but there should be no suspension and there was ZERO intent to injure.
And that is why they need to get hitting from behind out of the game...

Also how do you know that was no intent to injure?

As far as I'm concerned when I see a player and his back is towards me and I drive his face into the glass I'm gonna injure him.

Intent or not it was dirty and **** like this needs to stop.

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if I were a flyers fan..id have a hard time watching the rest of the game.

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You people do know that Jones wasn't skating in slowmo. Yes it was boarding but no intent to injure. That SAME FRICKING PLAY happens a billion times a year but THIS ONE ended badly.


I hope Patrice is okay, I really like the kid but there should be no suspension and there was ZERO intent to injure.
And that's fair, but why does this play have to be common place? Because people only get hurt sometimes it's ok?

You're right, there was no intent to injure, but that doesn't anyless of a dangerous play.

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WOW JUST WOW.

If this guy does not get at least 30 games this is a disgrace.

His back is to him the whole time and he drives his head into the glass. *** man show some ****ing respect. I am so disgusted right now. If there ever was any gray area on what is a cheap shot and what isn't this is exhibit A.
he did not drive his head into the boards, he was just finishing an illegal hit, 30 games, thats absurd

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WOW JUST WOW.

If this guy does not get at least 30 games this is a disgrace.

His back is to him the whole time and he drives his head into the glass. *** man show some ****ing respect. I am so disgusted right now. If there ever was any gray area on what is a cheap shot and what isn't this is exhibit A.
Agreed completely. He's staring right at his numbers the whole time. Disgraceful, disgraceful hit. He showed ZERO respect for Bergeron there. And I hope the league throws the book at him.

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don't think he should get suspended, illegal hit of course, but clearly unintentional, hits from behind happen, this is hockey, jones probably feels worse than anybody, thou the injury could be the worst, this hit is nowhere near downies or boulerice's incident those were intentional
A hit from behind is far worse than a charge or a hit to the head.

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i wonder if he was saying the same things about not trying to hurt someone after the downie/boulerice incidents.
Probabally not since it's the Bruins announcer

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You people do know that Jones wasn't skating in slowmo. Yes it was boarding but no intent to injure. That SAME FRICKING PLAY happens a billion times a year but THIS ONE ended badly.


I hope Patrice is okay, I really like the kid but there should be no suspension and there was ZERO intent to injure.
He delivered a totally careless hit. This is definitely worth a long suspension.

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You people do know that Jones wasn't skating in slowmo. Yes it was boarding but no intent to injure. That SAME FRICKING PLAY happens a billion times a year but THIS ONE ended badly.


I hope Patrice is okay, I really like the kid but there should be no suspension and there was ZERO intent to injure.
The same dump and chase play happens every game, just no one runs the forward's head into the glass like that. Ample time to anticipate, ample time to see his back was to him. No excuse.

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I feel bad just looking at the video........

I sincerely hope that PB will be ok.......

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****ing Flyers.

The other teams won't put up with this for long. Congrats, your entire team just became a target for the rest of the season.

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don't think he should get suspended, illegal hit of course, but clearly unintentional, hits from behind happen, this is hockey, jones probably feels worse than anybody, thou the injury could be the worst, this hit is nowhere near downies or boulerice's incident those were intentional
I'm sorry, but Jones staring directly at Bergeron's back the entire time takes away any doubt that the hit itself was intentional. The injury likely not, but Jones certainly INTENDED to hit him from behind. It's not like Bergeron turned at the last second or anything else.

There was clear intent to throw the hit as seen by Jones skating halfway across the ice and staring at Bergeron's back wellllllllllll before the hit.

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When a guy accidentally high sticks someone, there's no intent to injure but he still gets a penalty. You have to be responsible with your actions.

I still haven't seen the hit so I can't say whether it's worthy of a suspension or not.

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its hitting from behind but w/o intent to injure

he hit his head on the divider which knocked him out

does he get suspended? cuz of the crackdown, yes he does.. but its not as bad as other hits we've seen thus far

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