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10-30-2007, 10:19 PM
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3 opinions you hold that most of your fellow Pens fans disagree with.

1) Jay Bouwmeester is a top-5 defenseman in this league RIGHT NOW and he is one of the few guys I will trade Malkin straight up for.

2) Kris Letang, no matter how gifted, is overkill on our club and he is a great trade bait.

3) If Morozov comes back to NA now he would be a much improved player, simply because of the confidence he has finally found after being a star in Russia.

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10-30-2007, 10:20 PM
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I agree with your #3, like 110%

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10-30-2007, 10:26 PM
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1 - Gary Roberts has been pretty useless so far this year.

2 - Sydor is a good defenseman.

3 - Don't know right now.

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10-30-2007, 10:32 PM
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1 - Gary Roberts has been pretty useless so far this year.

2 - Sydor is a good defenseman.

3 - Don't know right now.
id say most of us agree with this.

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10-30-2007, 10:36 PM
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id say most of us agree with this.
Phew... speaking badly of Gary Roberts generally is received with the death penalty around here.

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1) A trade featuring EC should happen around Christmas break since we're obviously mismatched on parts anyway.

2) Fleury should be given a moderate 3 year deal with the caveat that he'll work with Meloche constantly over the duration of the deal.

3) We should draft an enforcer in 2008.

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10-30-2007, 10:42 PM
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Phew... speaking badly of Gary Roberts generally is received with the death penalty around here.
he actually just walked in my house and ate my roomate.




I WAS KIDDING GARY

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10-30-2007, 10:44 PM
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1) Jay Bouwmeester is a top-5 defenseman in this league RIGHT NOW and he is one of the few guys I will trade Malkin straight up for.

2) Kris Letang, no matter how gifted, is overkill on our club and he is a great trade bait.


3) If Morozov comes back to NA now he would be a much improved player, simply because of the confidence he has finally found after being a star in Russia.
Dr. Darko might kill me for this, but I totally agree with you on #2.

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10-30-2007, 10:49 PM
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1) A trade featuring EC should happen around Christmas break since we're obviously mismatched on parts anyway.

2) Fleury should be given a moderate 3 year deal with the caveat that he'll work with Meloche constantly over the duration of the deal.

3) We should draft an enforcer in 2008.
You don't have faith in Boogard?

Anyway, my 3:

1) Letang isn't that great, and needs at least this year in the AHL. Even then, he'll never be a top pairing guy.

2) I wouldn't trade Malkin for a single player in the league.

3) Crosby is a better goal scorer than Malkin.

I could prolly put up another 3 without a ton of work.

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10-30-2007, 10:50 PM
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1) Carey Price is already better than Marc-Andre Fleury

2) Kris Letang will not be a one-dimensional offensive defenseman

3) Rob Scuderi still isn't a viable #6 on a quality hockey club

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10-30-2007, 10:51 PM
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I wouldn't have been too upset if the Pens moved to Canada.

/prepares to be crucified

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You don't have faith in Boogard?

Anyway, my 3:

1) Letang isn't that great, and needs at least this year in the AHL. Even then, he'll never be a top pairing guy.

2) I wouldn't trade Malkin for a single player in the league.

3) Crosby is a better goal scorer than Malkin.

I could prolly put up another 3 without a ton of work.
I don't know if Boogaard will ever be competent enough to play in the NHL. I'd rather have another enforcer like Laraque who can skate a shift or two as well as fight. And besides, as Laraque demonstrated, you can always trade a decent enforcer at the deadline.

I agree with you on your #2 as well.

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Dr. Darko might kill me for this, but I totally agree with you on #2.
Yeah. Might.

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Yeah. Might.
Now, now. I didn't say he wouldn't be a good on the team either. But one of our offensive D-men has to go and he's got as good of a shot of leaving as any.

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1) Jay Bouwmeester is a top-5 defenseman in this league RIGHT NOW and he is one of the few guys I will trade Malkin straight up for.

2) Kris Letang, no matter how gifted, is overkill on our club and he is a great trade bait.

3) If Morozov comes back to NA now he would be a much improved player, simply because of the confidence he has finally found after being a star in Russia.
Great thread.

your #1 i would say the same about phaneuf rather than bouwmeester, so i guess we disagree.

#2 i disagree with, but respect your opinion.

#3 i strongly disagree. morozov was extremely weak on the puck. moreso than any "skilled" player i've ever seen in the NHL. sure he had a solid shot, and had good instincts, but was so damn weak on the puck and wasn't a good skater at all. similar to sykora but even worse.

but again, i respct your opinion.

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10-30-2007, 11:00 PM
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1. whitney's defensive game might be worse than melichar's

2. adam hall is the type of guy you can trade a dominic moore for without getting much back

3. this team still isn't built for the playoff...not enough defense not enough grit

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10-30-2007, 11:01 PM
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1) Ryan Whitney is severely overrated, probably the most overrated of all the Pens.

2) The Penguins need to go with the Detroit model and winning formula of finding a veteran goaltender to play behind our great nucleus of talent. Fleury will become too expensive for his actual worth and needs to be replaced, sooner or later.

3) Finding a shoot-first, scoring winger may actually be our No. 1 priority, since at some point we must separate Crosby and Malkin in order to balance out the offense.

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10-30-2007, 11:02 PM
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1 - Gary Roberts has been pretty useless so far this year.

2 - Sydor is a good defenseman.

3 - Don't know right now.
1. agree somewhat.

2. agree 100%

3. uhhh...

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1) A trade featuring EC should happen around Christmas break since we're obviously mismatched on parts anyway.

2) Fleury should be given a moderate 3 year deal with the caveat that he'll work with Meloche constantly over the duration of the deal.

3) We should draft an enforcer in 2008.
1. agree only if EC is on some kind of scoring streak and his stock is generally perceived as high. for instance, now would be a horrid time to trade him.

2. sure

3. i disagree. enforcers can be obtained in free agency for very little return, so i don't feel it would be necessary to use a draft pick on one.

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1) Jay Bouwmeester is a top-5 defenseman in this league RIGHT NOW and he is one of the few guys I will trade Malkin straight up for.

2) Kris Letang, no matter how gifted, is overkill on our club and he is a great trade bait.

3) If Morozov comes back to NA now he would be a much improved player, simply because of the confidence he has finally found after being a star in Russia.
1) MAF won't re-sign with the Pens (although I hope I'm wrong).
2) Brad Boyes would look awesome on Sid's wing.
3) Scuderi actually hasn't looked that bad this year so far.

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10-30-2007, 11:07 PM
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1) A trade featuring EC should happen around Christmas break since we're obviously mismatched on parts anyway.

2) Fleury should be given a moderate 3 year deal with the caveat that he'll work with Meloche constantly over the duration of the deal.

3) We should draft an enforcer in 2008.
I think these are all pretty good, as well as realistic. The only one I would change is #2. If he re-signs, they need to bring in someone else to work with him (either a sports psychologist or different goaltending coach).

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You don't have faith in Boogard?

Anyway, my 3:

1) Letang isn't that great, and needs at least this year in the AHL. Even then, he'll never be a top pairing guy.

2) I wouldn't trade Malkin for a single player in the league.

3) Crosby is a better goal scorer than Malkin.

I could prolly put up another 3 without a ton of work.
1. not sure enough to agree or disagree. my jury is still out on him, but i have faith.

2. the only player i would is phaneuf. but i understand why you feel this way.

3. i honestly think you're way off here.

i love this thread.


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1) Carey Price is already better than Marc-Andre Fleury

2) Kris Letang will not be a one-dimensional offensive defenseman

3) Rob Scuderi still isn't a viable #6 on a quality hockey club
no offense, bu i disagree with EVEYTHING you said.

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1) Carey Price is already better than Marc-Andre Fleury

2) Kris Letang will not be a one-dimensional offensive defenseman

3) Rob Scuderi still isn't a viable #6 on a quality hockey club
1) It is possible, but way too early to tell.

2) I hope that is the case, we don't need him if he is going to be one-dimensional.

3) I think Scuderi has been super solid, along with Eaton, our best dmen. On a strong d team, I think he would definitely be fine as a #6.

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You don't have faith in Boogard?

Anyway, my 3:

1) Letang isn't that great, and needs at least this year in the AHL. Even then, he'll never be a top pairing guy.

2) I wouldn't trade Malkin for a single player in the league.

3) Crosby is a better goal scorer than Malkin.

I could prolly put up another 3 without a ton of work.
1) I have no idea.

2) I agree.

3) I disagree.

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