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09-18-2008, 04:59 PM
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I can't see Sundin playing and Forsberg? Yikes...he's probably already played his final NHL game.

I can see Sundin playing. Forsberg is 50/50.

Zetterberg - Sundin - Weinhandl
Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Franzén - Bäckström - Hörnqvist
Steen - Påhlsson - Alfredsson


Lidström - Kronwall
Öhlund - Strålman
Tallinder - Johnsson
Murray - Hedman

Lundqvist
Markström

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09-19-2008, 07:11 AM
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Sundin will stop icehockey maybe this year or next year, Alfredsson isn't same Alfredsson than 3-5 years ago, I think Lidstrom will stop too after this season, Sedins aren't as good as couple of years ago. Sweden is my second favourite team in world championships and olympics, but I have to say that future of Sweden looks very, very bad. Their best players are old and they're gonna stop ice hockey soon.. then they has only Zeta.
And then only Finland shows to world that nordic countries can play good hockey.

Now swedish hockey lins in Vancouver 2010.

D. Sedin, H. Sedin, Zetterberg
Bäckström, Näslund, J. Jönsson
Franzen, Holmstrom, Weinhandl
Påhlsson, Huselius, and some swedish league player

Kronwall, Öhlund
K. Jönsson, Murray

Lundqvist
I'm not sure if this is a big joke or not but since it's so worked through I'll treat it like a serious addition to the thread. Alfredsson is in my opinion maybe better than ever, 5 years ago he wasn't nearly as good as today, imo. Lidström has recently said that since his contract with Detroit runs out in '10 he'll concider the olympics, and he has said he'd probably join the team if asked. Saying he'd quit after this season is probably not very accurate. The future of swedish hockey looks better than in a good while, you don't seem to hold much knowledge on the juniorteams. We might have a year or two after 2010 where we aren't as good as before, but please hold your breath that Finland (of all) will be the only good nordic hockey country. I suppose in your logic, Selänne and Koivou will keep on playing until 50 or so?

Furthermore, putting Jörgen Jönsson in the 2nd line in the olympics 2010 just ends this discussion and your clearsight in swedish hockey in general.

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09-20-2008, 03:27 AM
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I can see Sundin playing. Forsberg is 50/50.

Zetterberg - Sundin - Weinhandl
Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Franzén - Bäckström - Hörnqvist
Steen - Påhlsson - Alfredsson


Lidström - Kronwall
Öhlund - Strålman
Tallinder - Johnsson
Murray - Hedman

Lundqvist
Markström
I can't when he isn't even playing right now and all reports suggest he is leaning towards retirement.

Foppa would be playing on one leg.

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09-20-2008, 03:42 AM
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Foppa would be playing on one leg.
...and still be close to a PPG player in the NHL.

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09-20-2008, 06:32 AM
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...and still be close to a PPG player in the NHL.
because he is a freak of nature...

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09-20-2008, 02:28 PM
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...and still be close to a PPG player in the NHL.
and he's on one leg... and he misses every second game, I think he's had enough of that.

Once again this year it's looking like he won't be back by Christmas at least.

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10-11-2008, 07:38 PM
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I put two teams on the ice. The second one reserves and prospects.


First Team:

Sundin - Bäckström - Alfredsson
Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Franzén - Zetterberg - Samuelsson
Steen - Påhlsson - Holmström
Forsberg

Lidström - Kronwall
Öhlund - Edler
Johnsson - Tallinder
Enström

Lundqvist
Tellqvist

Taxi Squad:

Berglund
Hedman
Markström


Reserves:

Näslund - Nylander - Hörnqvist
Huselius - Mårtensson - Weinhandl
Axelsson - Lundqvist - Brunnström
Nilsson - Möller - Bergfors
Sundström

Jönsson - Strålman
Murray - Bäckman
Frögren - Oduya
Grossman - Timander

Hedberg
Enroth
Ersberg


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10-12-2008, 02:43 PM
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Update: Olympic Champions are allowed two teams from 2010 and on...
What are you talking about?


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10-12-2008, 09:59 PM
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What are you talking about?
A reason to include a team of reserves...in our predictions here at HF Boards only...


Hävelid seem to be on fire, as well...


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10-13-2008, 05:01 AM
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Franzen - Zetterberg - Alfredsson
Sedin - Sedin - Hörnqvist
Eriksson - Bäckström - Näslund
Steen - Påhlsson - Lundqvist

Öhlund - Lidström (c)
Kronwall - Strålman
Murray - Enström
Edler


Lundqvist

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10-13-2008, 10:41 AM
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LOL... those leaving Edler out of the line-up are obviously not paying attention... and anybody putting Strålman ahead of Alexander is either suffering from wishful thinking or are subjects to a pretty heavy eastcoast leaning bias.

Alex has really impressed so far, and he didn't enter this season with low expectations.

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10-13-2008, 11:12 AM
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LOL... those leaving Edler out of the line-up are obviously not paying attention... and anybody putting Strålman ahead of Alexander is either suffering from wishful thinking or are subjects to a pretty heavy eastcoast leaning bias.

Alex has really impressed so far, and he didn't enter this season with low expectations.
Things is though, does BÅG feel the same way?

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10-13-2008, 11:31 AM
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Things is though, does BÅG feel the same way?
BÅG doesn't like young guys that much.. With his quotes it's evident that he considers 27year olds as young guns.. And while Strålman has looked pretty darn good on Tre Kronor, Edler looked like a guy who would have a hard time getting ice time in allsvenskan.

There is no way BÅG sees Edler ahead of Strålman unless Edler somehow gets a chance in a world champs and shines. And he'd have to do pretty well for BÅG to consider him for the olympics...

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10-13-2008, 01:16 PM
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Update: Olympic Champions are allowed two teams from 2010 and on...

First Team:

Zetterberg - Sundin - Alfredsson
Sedin - Sedin - Weinhandl
Franzén - Bäckström - Hörnqvist
Steen - Påhlsson - Eriksson
Forsberg - Mårtensson

Lidström - Kronwall
Öhlund - Enström
Tallinder - Johnsson
Murray - Frögren

Lundqvist
Tellqvist
Markström


Second Team:

Huselius - Nylander - Holmström
Näslund - Berglund - Samuelsson
Harju - Wallin - Nilsson
Axelsson - Lundqvist - Sjöström
Ekman - Hannula

Jönsson - Strålman
Hedman - Bäckman
Wallin - Edler
Grossman - Oduya

Hedberg
Enroth
Ersberg
ugh why is weinhandl on the first team. no thanks.


Zetterberg-Backstrom-Alfredsson
Sedin-Sedin-Franzen
MSP-Berglund-Hornqvist
Axelsson-Pahlsson-Eriksson


Lidstrom-Enstrom
Ohlund-Kronwall
Edler-Hedman
Murray

Lundqvist
Enroth
Markstrom


that's my perfect team

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BÅG doesn't like young guys that much.. With his quotes it's evident that he considers 27year olds as young guns.. And while Strålman has looked pretty darn good on Tre Kronor, Edler looked like a guy who would have a hard time getting ice time in allsvenskan.

There is no way BÅG sees Edler ahead of Strålman unless Edler somehow gets a chance in a world champs and shines. And he'd have to do pretty well for BÅG to consider him for the olympics...
Interesting... Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but I understand this as you're telling me that Edler has not succeeded all that well in Tre Kronor? I can tell you from this side of the pond, Edler has been very convincing, so on an NHL sized rink, I think BÅG would need to have his head examined unless he plays Öhlund and Edler together.

To beat this dead horse, Edler vs. Strålman, another round, I'll use Vancouver's last game against Calgary in the Saddledome. It was quite a display by "young" Edler, as he was going after and knocking people like Bertie and Igilna all over the place to come up with the puck. You just don't see Strålman go after his opponents like that, nor start the offense with the same speed and accuracy or assume leadership on the ice. IMO, Anton looks more like he is grateful for not playing with the Marlies, "tenative" is the word I'm looking for.

Then again, BÅG rarely picks to me likings but he keeps winning championships, so fact vs. fiction.

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10-13-2008, 06:01 PM
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Defensively for Sweden (Assuming Lidas will not be there), I'd like to see:

Doug Murray
Alexander Edler
Mattias Öhlund
Kenny Jönsson (C)
Tobias Enström
Niklas Kronwall

Candidates for 7th depending on progression:
Odyua
Strålman
Berglund
Grossman

Otherwise, go with Tallinder.

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It's gonna be exciting to see the kids in that tournament.

I'm sure that Markström, Hedman, P.Berglund, Hörnqvist and Bäckström will all feature if they aren't injured. Perhaps Pääjärvi as well.

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It's gonna be exciting to see the kids in that tournament.

I'm sure that Markström, Hedman, P.Berglund, Hörnqvist and Bäckström will all feature if they aren't injured. Perhaps Pääjärvi as well.
Maybe one or two of them.

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Maybe one or two of them.
backstrom yes, markstrom no.

Berglund yes, hornqvist, maybe

Paajarvi, probable deserves it in 1.5 years, but knowing BÅG. no.

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Interesting... Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but I understand this as you're telling me that Edler has not succeeded all that well in Tre Kronor?
Not just not all that well. He looked awful, granted he was very tired, but there is no chance that BÅG gives a youngster who hasn't succeeded another chance unless it's world champs and there is a lack of decent D-men. Unless that happens, he can hope getting a better chance in 2014.

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I can tell you from this side of the pond, Edler has been very convincing, so on an NHL sized rink, I think BÅG would need to have his head examined unless he plays Öhlund and Edler together.
Well, Öhlund hasn't been all that convincing on the national team either... So with many injuries they might be the third pairing or so. But I just don't see Edler making the team unless he gets a chance at impressing on the national team before that.

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Not just not all that well. He looked awful, granted he was very tired, but there is no chance that BÅG gives a youngster who hasn't succeeded another chance unless it's world champs and there is a lack of decent D-men. Unless that happens, he can hope getting a better chance in 2014.


Well, Öhlund hasn't been all that convincing on the national team either... So with many injuries they might be the third pairing or so. But I just don't see Edler making the team unless he gets a chance at impressing on the national team before that.
In lieu of that, I'll fold my cards. I haven't seen Edler in 3 kronor, and if he hasn't succeeded in the past, I can see why BÅG would give other players the chance. Doing well in the NHL is one thing, but playing well on the national team, in the IIHF tourney format is a different thing... ask Näslund. Although I still have that little feeling inside of me saying that a tourney in Canada on an NHL sized rink will suit boys like Edler, and Öhlund for that matter, quite well.

If we assume Lidström to be done by then, who do you see Sweden line up defensively?

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If we assume Lidström to be done by then, who do you see Sweden line up defensively?
Why should we do that? His new contract runs through the very 2009-10 season.

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Why should we do that? His new contract runs through the very 2009-10 season.
Well, there is that slim possibility that Lidström, who then is two months away from being 40, might feel that:

a) His body could use the break
b) He has his OG gold and would rather not jeapordize his contractual obligations or possible perks by running the risk of getting injured in an IIHF tourney
c) He'd value some quality time with the family, maybe even be able to take his sons to the Games, over going with a "new" team without the anchors that he has been in the trenches with before, Foppa,Sudden, J.J, etc.
d) he gets demotivated by the idea that he is an olympic champion before the game starts, and after they've beaten Italy and Poland too, but a traitor of the nation after the OGs unless Sweden wins gold again.
e) he thinks it would be better for the team and Swedish hockey by letting someone else have a shot at it.

Of course, beign that it prolly will be his last year playing competetive hockey, he could possibly grab every last chance to play every game in his reach, but somehow I doubt that. He has a rally career ahead of him to think about.

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Lol who cares you swedes.......your all going to lose to Canada anyway
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Lol who cares you swedes.......your all going to lose to Canada anyway
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More honour in that than losing to the swiss

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