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01-15-2004, 04:45 PM
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Johan Fransson

Is it true that André Savard said on CKAC that he was really high on Johan Fransson and that he wanted to use a 2nd round pick to draft him until he learnt that Fransson opted out because of injuries that would make him drop? (A while ago)

I was one of those who claimed that I dreamed to see either Tim Ramholt or Johan Fransson in a Habs jersey and that the team should use their 40th overall pick on either of them. The problem was that Ramholt was drafted by Calgary 39th overall and Fransson opted out. Since Fransson will be in this year draft, if it's true that Savard said that, it could be possible to see the team trade to the 20-25 spot to draft Fransson.

Anyone can confirm that he said that?

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Is it true that André Savard said on CKAC that he was really high on Johan Fransson and that he wanted to use a 2nd round pick to draft him until he learnt that Fransson opted out because of injuries that would make him drop? (A while ago)

I was one of those who claimed that I dreamed to see either Tim Ramholt or Johan Fransson in a Habs jersey and that the team should use their 40th overall pick on either of them. The problem was that Ramholt was drafted by Calgary 39th overall and Fransson opted out. Since Fransson will be in this year draft, if it's true that Savard said that, it could be possible to see the team trade to the 20-25 spot to draft Fransson.

Anyone can confirm that he said that?

I didn't hear that, but it's funny cause I read where a poster in Sweden said he heard we were interested in Fransson this year. He's gotten high praise from his U-20 coach and SEL coach as well. Sounds like a great pick.

http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=507

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I heard it on CKAC... He was very high on him to say the least. At this time I was 100% sure he was going to take him in the second round.

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Wow, that bio makes him sound like a lesser version of Lidstrom. Did he play in this year's WJC?


edit: he had 3 goals in 6 games. Not bad.

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montreal, what do you think of Ryan Garlock from the Windsor Spitfires? He is a centre about 6'1 and 202, good offensively and defensively, currently ranked 11 in NA from Central Scouting.

I'm interested because he is a local boy.

Let me know what you think, thanks.

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The Maple Leafs European head scout, Thommie Bergman (Sweden) is very high on him and it looks like the Leafs may have him high on their list.

But I don't understand why the Habs would draft a defenseman in the first round when you've got a very small team that gets pushed around all the time. Wouldn't it be wise to pickup a big kid that can score in the draft instead of another defenseman?

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The Maple Leafs European head scout, Thommie Bergman (Sweden) is very high on him and it looks like the Leafs may have him high on their list.

But I don't understand why the Habs would draft a defenseman in the first round when you've got a very small team that gets pushed around all the time. Wouldn't it be wise to pickup a big kid that can score in the draft instead of another defenseman?
montreal philosphy is to draft best player available ..

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montreal, what do you think of Ryan Garlock from the Windsor Spitfires? He is a centre about 6'1 and 202, good offensively and defensively, currently ranked 11 in NA from Central Scouting.

I'm interested because he is a local boy.

Let me know what you think, thanks.

I haven't seen Windsor yet, but if I get a chance I'll take a look at him.

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The Maple Leafs European head scout, Thommie Bergman (Sweden) is very high on him and it looks like the Leafs may have him high on their list.

But I don't understand why the Habs would draft a defenseman in the first round when you've got a very small team that gets pushed around all the time. Wouldn't it be wise to pickup a big kid that can score in the draft instead of another defenseman?

No I hate to see teams pick today what they need now. The Habs don't rush their prospects, and there's no way of saying who will be on the team or what the team needs will be in 3-5 years from the time of the draft.

Hopefully we pick before the leafs, grab Fransson, and he knocks over Sundin on his way to getting the game winner as the small pushed around Habs without a big center that they could have drafted but didn't, go on their way to their 25th Cup.

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Fine... then the Leafs will draft Salmonsson, who will score 4 goals and set up another 3 in a romping of the Habs in the 2005 Eastern Conference finals.

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Fine... then the Leafs will draft Salmonsson, who will score 4 goals and set up another 3 in a romping of the Habs in the 2005 Eastern Conference finals.
breaking news salmonsson and half the leafs were ussing steriods, leafs disqualified after a very shamefull attemped.
the habs go on to win there 25th. while tha drought continues for TO.

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breaking news salmonsson and half the leafs were ussing steriods, leafs disqualified after a very shamefull attemped.
the habs go on to win there 25th. while tha drought continues for TO.
Well, the Habs play the Vancouver Canucks in the SCF and Canucks sweep.

Theodore gets frustrated and ask for a trade to Toronto.

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Well, the Habs play the Vancouver Canucks in the SCF and Canucks sweep.

Theodore gets frustrated and ask for a trade to Toronto.
Theodore would rather be traded to a contender... not the Leafs.

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when you've got a very small team that gets pushed around all the time.
The Habs have changed, they are still not overly physical, but they don't 'get pushed around all the time' either.


BPA is the way to go.

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This thread turned out to be pretty funny. thanks for the laughs guys

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Theodore would rather be traded to a contender... not the Leafs.
Well, by the team he asks for a trade... Toronto would have acquired the following...

Joe Sakic
Peter Forsberg
Mike Modano
Rick Nash
Sergei Fedorov
Paul Kariya
Vincent Lecavalier
Chris Pronger
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Sergei Gonchar

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Well, by the team he asks for a trade... Toronto would have acquired the following...

Joe Sakic
Peter Forsberg
Mike Modano
Rick Nash
Sergei Fedorov
Paul Kariya
Vincent Lecavalier
Chris Pronger
Jay Bouwmeester
Sergei Gonchar
That's way too much ego on one team. You guys were lucky to even make the playoffs. Plus you weren't good enough to beat Montreal to get to the final in the first place, or did your team just choke again?

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Correction

"Hopefully we pick before the leafs, grab Fransson, and he knocks over Sundin on his way to getting the game winner as the small pushed around Habs without a big center that they could have drafted but didn't, go on their way to their <b>27th</b> Cup"

I for one wouldn't want to have to wait until this Fransson kid gets in the NHL to win our 25th.

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All kidding aside, I hope Savard and company are taking a close look at Swedish prospects. Fransson, Salmonsson, Hedman, and later pick Fredrick Naslund (he's got great size) should be worth taking a serious look at.

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All kidding aside, I hope Savard and company are taking a close look at Swedish prospects. Fransson, Salmonsson, Hedman, and later pick Fredrick Naslund (he's got great size) should be worth taking a serious look at.

are the mid-season central scouting rankings for the 2004 draft out yet?

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Yes.

For anyone who doesn't have Adobe, I listed the top 100 skaters from North America, the top 50 international skaters, and goaltenders as well.

http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=43917

It will be updated later on... more players will be added.

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Yes.

For anyone who doesn't have Adobe, I listed the top 100 skaters from North America, the top 50 international skaters, and goaltenders as well.

http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=43917

It will be updated later on... more players will be added.

Thanks.


Here's a article from Johan, http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article...readed&order=0

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If you don't have Adobe Acrobat Reader, go and download this free version of the program here. It will allow you to open PDF files:

http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html

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