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11-12-2007, 03:23 PM
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1929 Chicago Blackhawks VIDEO

Found this gem on Youtube.... Amazing how much things have changed in almost 80 years.


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Yeah, this was posted a while back. It's simply incredible. According to the comments, it was an exhibition match between the Blackhawks and an AHA team.

It's sad that there aren't more videos of this time period available.

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Yeah, this was posted a while back. It's simply incredible. According to the comments, it was an exhibition match between the Blackhawks and an AHA team.

It's sad that there aren't more videos of this time period available.
That was awesome. There has to some footage somewhere, and the league needs to find it. Indiana Jones..the quest for old tyme hockey!! I wish NHL Network would play stuff like that. They emphasize tradition, but won't play anything older than the late 80's.

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Great find there. I'd love to see the NHL be able to do a DVD set of material from this time period, it would be good to see.

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Holy Jeez. That is awesome. I'm surprised at how similar to today the players actually skate, stop, turn, stickhandle, and pass. The gameplay is much different, though. Look at all the guys just standing around while the one guy starts rushing the puck.

I wonder where this originated, and if they have the full game. I also wonder if this is the oldest footage of hockey in existence. Honestly, I didn't even know video existed in 1929, let alone in a format available for home use.

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Of course, 'Hawks fans had to have bootleg films of their games because even back then, Wirtz refused to show them on TV.

Sorry, someone had to do it.

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Holy Jeez. That is awesome. I'm surprised at how similar to today the players actually skate, stop, turn, stickhandle, and pass. The gameplay is much different, though. Look at all the guys just standing around while the one guy starts rushing the puck.

I wonder where this originated, and if they have the full game. I also wonder if this is the oldest footage of hockey in existence. Honestly, I didn't even know video existed in 1929, let alone in a format available for home use.
There is movie footage from the 1890's, maybe earlier. Did yinz know that the first movie theater was in Pittsburgh?

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Holy Jeez. That is awesome. I'm surprised at how similar to today the players actually skate, stop, turn, stickhandle, and pass. The gameplay is much different, though. Look at all the guys just standing around while the one guy starts rushing the puck.

I wonder where this originated, and if they have the full game. I also wonder if this is the oldest footage of hockey in existence. Honestly, I didn't even know video existed in 1929, let alone in a format available for home use.
Yeah, the level of skating definitely surprised me the most. That one rush around 1:25 was pretty good, especially considering he ended it with a crosscheck to the face of the defender.

There is definitely old video available. That hockey series from the CBC, Hockey: A People's History, definitely had a bunch of old time footage from the 20's onward.


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That was awesome. The strategies are really foreign, of course you had to conserve your energy back then... but during the action, it was almost eerie how similar the scrums and dekes looked compared to modern hockey. That one dude tried a sweet dipsy doodle, he really went for it. I wonder how often they dumped-and-chased back then...

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Holy Jeez. That is awesome. I'm surprised at how similar to today the players actually skate, stop, turn, stickhandle, and pass.
Yet to hear a lot of people talk, you'd think players back then were slow, lumbering and unskilled, and if they were in today's much, much better era, they would all be in the ECHL. Maybe a link of this video needs to be posted in the current events forum for the "Howie Morenz couldn't carry Nik Antropov's jock strap" crew.

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Wow, what a gem.


Alot of the footage you see from that era has been sped up (I'm assuming to compensate for fewer frames), this looks to be an almost exact representation of what the speed of the game was like back then.

I agree with the poster above, that's BS to say that these guys would be average in todays NHL. It's akin to saying George "Papa Bear" Halas would be a practice roster defensive end in today's NFL...sure, maybe if he were still wearing the leather helmet and tiny shoulder pads. More than any sport, I think hockey has been influenced the most by equipment technology. These guys were scooting around on primitive tube skates...it's really not even worth comparing the two eras.

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I brought up the same idea before about early footage, since there is some of games of like the NY Americans vs. the Montreal Canadiens in the first hockey game ever played at Madison Square Garden and such...
Watching things like the miniseries - Hockey A People's History - and CBC had the footage of Howie Morenz, or rare gems like Maurice Richard playing in the tryouts for the Habs wearing #15...

Some guy that worked for the CBC explained to me, is that the footage they have is extemely limited. When they find those sorts of clips, it's usually long lost or horribly faded over the years. And even then they need NHL clearance to release it, like why you'll never see Bill Masterson and the play where he died.... (not that we really want to, but that was an example given)

From what he was saying is that as amazing as it is, HNIC didn't start actually archiving their games until the late 60s, and even then there's a lot of missed footage. The 1970s is when CBC really began to archive things.

Sad as it is... If he's still a poster here, hopefully he can elaborate more, or correct me where I'm wrong from memory of our conversation.

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There is definitely old video available. That hockey series from the CBC, Hockey: A People's History, definitely had a bunch of old time footage from the 20's onward.
Do you have a link to buy this online? I would pay basically any price for a couple hours of video like that.

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The best part is the "zamboni" broom guys at the end.

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Here's some Blackhawk footage from the 60s, lots of Golden Jet clips.


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Do you have a link to buy this online? I would pay basically any price for a couple hours of video like that.
http://www.cbcshop.ca/CBC/shopping/p...177&lang=en-CA

The greatest documentary made about hockey. Absolutely captivating beginning to end.

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I loved hockey a peoples history, it is the equivalent, or near equivalent of Ken Burns baseball imo.

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Do you have a link to buy this online? I would pay basically any price for a couple hours of video like that.
I just want to warn you, it's not a couple hours of old footage. It's a recap of the last one hundred years of hockey, and there are clips thrown in for almost every era, but it's not non-stop footage.

Regardless, it is a valuable investment. It has a tremendous amount of information in it.

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Just wanted to add the the Hockey: A People's history discussion....

Easily the best hockey documentary available....by leaps and bounds.

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The players look quite timid when challenging each other compared to today, but I would be more cautious if I didn't have a bunch of protective equipment on.
According to the comments on the video, it was likely an exhibition game, which may have something to do with it.

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Actually having had a skate from the 1920's in my hand, I can't beleive they actually were able to skate in those things at all let alone do it as well as they did.

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Flash of brilliance with 25-21 seconds left with the surge and move and body contact. Wonder who that was.

There's something powerfully moving about seeing such ancient filming.

LOL the Blackhawks were the worst team in the NHL in '29 and needed all the practice they could get.

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I noticed something pretty cool... No ads on the boards!!!

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I noticed something pretty cool... No ads on the boards!!!
Yeah but you'll notice the dancing coca-cola cheerleading girls in the stands are there for that purpose.

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I didn't even notice that... What time do you see them?

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