Habs obviously need at least one more big froward to have a shot at doing something in the playoffs
my 2 cents
Steve Rucchin
Brenden Morrow ... because of the connection between him and Gainey ... Gainey and Stars ... Carbo and Habs
Jason Arnott ... his name often comes out
Shane Doan ... I guess the Yotes don't want to trade him with good reason, but the Habs often tried to get him and he's having a hell of a season
Habs obviously need at least one more big froward to have a shot at doing something in the playoffs
my 2 cents
Steve Rucchin
Brenden Morrow ... because of the connection between him and Gainey ... Gainey and Stars ... Carbo and Habs
Jason Arnott ... his name often comes out
Shane Doan ... I guess the Yotes don't want to trade him with good reason, but the Habs often tried to get him and he's having a hell of a season
Shane doan is the reason why we drafted terry ryan, the jets stole him from us at th 7th spot. Arnott and morrow not likely, im more looking for young guys like Pyatt, Vasicek or maybe scatchard...
Shane doan is the reason why we drafted terry ryan, the jets stole him from us at th 7th spot. Arnott and morrow not likely, im more looking for young guys like Pyatt, Vasicek or maybe scatchard...
Pyatt is also van damn good but I don't know what the Sabres would want for him ... Vasicek is not my favorite player but he's the kind of guy we need, and Scatchard would be a perfect fit on the 3rd line instead of Dackell
I'm not too sure they want to get rid of Primeau, I think Handzus is interesting depending of what you have to give in order to get him ... would be nice to see Zednik - Handzus - Bulis
I don't think Flyers will give up Handzus, especially for anyone on our team. The Oilers would loved to have received a Handzus from Philadelphia for Comrie, but were left with draft picks and Woywitka. I would think that Comrie is a better asset than anyone that we are willing to part with. Handzus is a good skater for being 6'5, and is versatile, from what I have seen.
What about Laraque? Obviously, he's not skilled, and he's said some harsh things about playing in Montreal. But my feeling is that he is going to come cheap. So if we need a guy like that (although we do have Langdon now), he could be had for almost nothing.
I don't think Flyers will give up Handzus, especially for anyone on our team. The Oilers would loved to have received a Handzus from Philadelphia for Comrie, but were left with draft picks and Woywitka. I would think that Comrie is a better asset than anyone that we are willing to part with. Handzus is a good skater for being 6'5, and is versatile, from what I have seen.
What about Laraque? Obviously, he's not skilled, and he's said some harsh things about playing in Montreal. But my feeling is that he is going to come cheap. So if we need a guy like that (although we do have Langdon now), he could be had for almost nothing.
Laraque's name always comes out, so I don't pay any attention to rumours about him ... but yeah I'd like to see him with the Habs
I think it has come to a point where he will be dealt before the end of the year. Here in Edmonton, the fans have pretty much given up on him, and he has been a healthy scratch for the last week and a half. Apparently, the Sens are in good discussions with the Oilers for him... Although, I'm not sure who the Sens would give up. I think the Oilers wouldn't mind taking a pick for him, because they have so many forwards on the farm they would like to see on the team, like Rita and Salmaninen.
I think it has come to a point where he will be dealt before the end of the year. Here in Edmonton, the fans have pretty much given up on him, and he has been a healthy scratch for the last week and a half. Apparently, the Sens are in good discussions with the Oilers for him... Although, I'm not sure who the Sens would give up. I think the Oilers wouldn't mind taking a pick for him, because they have so many forwards on the farm they would like to see on the team, like Rita and Salmaninen.
I would really like to get either Mike Fisher from Ottawa or Jason Arnott from Dallas. I guess in both cases they would be pretty expensive. I would sat that from a MTL stand pont a guy like Hossa could be appealing along with something else. I wounder if Hossa and Rivet would be enough to fetch us Arnott. Hossa and a 2nd for Fisher. In either cases it could really help this team to get either one of these players. In addition it would also be a Right Handed center that BG was looking to had to his team.
Lineup with one of those players:
1. Ryder, Koivu, Balej <--- I think we will see him before the end of the year
2. Zednik, Ribs, Dagenais <--- They have proven to be an effective line
3. Bulis, (Arnott/Fisher), Sundstrum
4. Kilger, Begin, Ward
I would really like to get either Mike Fisher from Ottawa or Jason Arnott from Dallas. I guess in both cases they would be pretty expensive. I would sat that from a MTL stand pont a guy like Hossa could be appealing along with something else. I wounder if Hossa and Rivet would be enough to fetch us Arnott. Hossa and a 2nd for Fisher. In either cases it could really help this team to get either one of these players. In addition it would also be a Right Handed center that BG was looking to had to his team.
Lineup with one of those players:
1. Ryder, Koivu, Balej <--- I think we will see him before the end of the year
2. Zednik, Ribs, Dagenais <--- They have proven to be an effective line
3. Bulis, (Arnott/Fisher), Sundstrum
4. Kilger, Begin, Ward
If I were Habs GM I would push really hard to get Morrow and Arnott for Koivu, Hossa, pick and something else if they want to
Habs obviously need at least one more big froward to have a shot at doing something in the playoffs
my 2 cents
Steve Rucchin
Brenden Morrow ... because of the connection between him and Gainey ... Gainey and Stars ... Carbo and Habs
Jason Arnott ... his name often comes out
Shane Doan ... I guess the Yotes don't want to trade him with good reason, but the Habs often tried to get him and he's having a hell of a season
I'd make up offers for some of these guys but I'd piss off some people doing so ...
guys when we talk about morrow think about the fact that a) dallas fans bristle at the thought of trading morrow for HAVLAT straight up..
morrow also wears an A on his jersey.. he isnt going to be REMOTELY easy to get and dallas is actually starting to look like a playoff team.. albeit a lower seed.. it'd cost a LOT to get a guy like morrow from them.. rucchin and arnott are more likely though i think well arnott is based on his salary and his age, etc..
shane doan would be, well, to put it nicely.. impossible.. to put it not so nicely, i have a better chance to make the Sens as the starting RW over alfie and hossa w/ my inability to skate really well (Since i cant freakin stop)
shane doan would be, well, to put it nicely.. impossible.. to put it not so nicely, i have a better chance to make the Sens as the starting RW over alfie and hossa w/ my inability to skate really well (Since i cant freakin stop)
I know it's just an old dream that I want to come true
I know it's just an old dream that I want to come true
in the most ideal world (ie my head) we get doan AND morrow and only give up like.. dagenais and maybe zednik.. or something like that
we keep ribs and koivu as our centers and 2 powerforward type of wingers who can finish
oh and btw.. the laughing in my last post was at myself (about my horrible skating)
Habs obviously need at least one more big froward to have a shot at doing something in the playoffs
my 2 cents
Steve Rucchin
Brenden Morrow ... because of the connection between him and Gainey ... Gainey and Stars ... Carbo and Habs
Jason Arnott ... his name often comes out
Shane Doan ... I guess the Yotes don't want to trade him with good reason, but the Habs often tried to get him and he's having a hell of a season
if their goaltending somehow gets hot, and if the desjardins injury isnt too severe the flyers are a legitimate cup contender so i HIGHLY doubt theyd trade primeau.. but o'neill is definately a possibility..
I wouldnt mind seeing him in a habs jersey Before he pans out like a Doan for example (dont saying he's gonna be the same player, but i do think he have lot of room for improvement...)
Pyatt is possible to add, not easily but still... Also, dont loose your time (even in dreams ) with Doan. If he could have been add for GOOD assets two years ago and damn good assets last year. He's not going anywhere now unless you are Vancouver and want to give Bertuzzi... (Well you get my point...)
if their goaltending somehow gets hot, and if the desjardins injury isnt too severe the flyers are a legitimate cup contender so i HIGHLY doubt theyd trade primeau.. but o'neill is definately a possibility..
On top of that, I dont think they would give to a good possibility 1st round ennemy an asset to match their big forwards in defensive purposed. Philadelphia in the first round for Montreal is a pretty possible matchup.
Most of the names mentioned in this thread would cost us more then I would want to see us part with.
Morrow - would be a great addition, but his price would be seriously high. I'm sure it would be a price most of us wouldn't want to pay.
Arnott - he honestly scares me. Always been kinda a fan of his but he seems a little injury prone and can disappear for stretchs which would drive the media crazy in Mtl. His asking price would also be too high, imo.
Doan - We would really have to make a huge offer to get this guy. I'm sure Zednik, Komisarek, Bulis and a draft pick would interest the Yotes but personally I wouldn't want to part with that much. Can't see getting him for a Hossa, Rivet and a pick type package.
Pyatt- I would assume if the Sabres were to listen to offers for Pyatt they would want young players/prospects in return and if they felt the package they were receiving didn't far outweigh keeping Pyatt why would they move him? He would cost us too much, imo.
Laraque - Could see us being able to land him but a) I don't think the fact that he has bashed the team in the media makes him a target of management and b) I think there are other teams out there who want him more and would offer more than we would. Just my opinion.
O'Neill - This might be the one guy who BG should maybe make a pitch for. We won't get him cheap, but I bet alot cheaper than a year ago. He would fit perfectly on a line with Ryder and Koivu and really boost our offence, and Carolina might be looking to move him, so...
Don't think his slow year would reduce his value that much mind you. This guy is capable of scoring 35-40 goals a year and Carolina will want to be compensated quite well, and I assume they would have no interest in any player over the age of 26-27.
I agree with Darz on most of his points with the exception of Arnott and O'Neil.
I could see Arrnot here (and I would have the same reservation that Darz has) because BG has stated out loud that we need size at center. I think he is far from perfect, expensive and a total risk.
O'Neil, I see as a possibility, just because Carolina is not playoff bound. Then again, Cole is a better long term choice.
The main probelm is that I highly doubt that any Eastern division team besides the Hurricanes would trade with us (or us with them). We are in the hunt with lower ranked teams, and the higher ranked guys will not trade a player with whom they will meet in the playoffs (neither would we) - except in a final. But we are gettinbg ahead of ourselves here.
So....look at the West and the teams that are failing, and maybe those that are one mature player away from their goal. Perreault looks like the most likely to move, he is a UFA at the end of the year, but is a great face off guy and a good depth sniper. A big team with that need could grab him.
I doubt anyone young guy but Hainsey and Hossa are on the block.
Bottom line, no team that has a chance to make the playoffs in the east is a good trading partner. Forget Primeau, Fisher, Kvasha, or any other of their type. Look to the west.....
Most of the names mentioned in this thread would cost us more then I would want to see us part with.
Morrow - would be a great addition, but his price would be seriously high. I'm sure it would be a price most of us wouldn't want to pay.
Arnott - he honestly scares me. Always been kinda a fan of his but he seems a little injury prone and can disappear for stretchs which would drive the media crazy in Mtl. His asking price would also be too high, imo.
Doan - We would really have to make a huge offer to get this guy. I'm sure Zednik, Komisarek, Bulis and a draft pick would interest the Yotes but personally I wouldn't want to part with that much. Can't see getting him for a Hossa, Rivet and a pick type package.
Pyatt- I would assume if the Sabres were to listen to offers for Pyatt they would want young players/prospects in return and if they felt the package they were receiving didn't far outweigh keeping Pyatt why would they move him? He would cost us too much, imo.
Laraque - Could see us being able to land him but a) I don't think the fact that he has bashed the team in the media makes him a target of management and b) I think there are other teams out there who want him more and would offer more than we would. Just my opinion.
O'Neill - This might be the one guy who BG should maybe make a pitch for. We won't get him cheap, but I bet alot cheaper than a year ago. He would fit perfectly on a line with Ryder and Koivu and really boost our offence, and Carolina might be looking to move him, so...
Don't think his slow year would reduce his value that much mind you. This guy is capable of scoring 35-40 goals a year and Carolina will want to be compensated quite well, and I assume they would have no interest in any player over the age of 26-27.
good post Darz , i agree with you .The only one i could see is O'neil but what they will ask for him ?
