...and how is it that you seem to know this information?
Let's see...A 27 year old, fouth year player who was runner up for the Calder Trophy in his rookie year and followed that up with back-to-back 30-goal campaigns on a team who isn't known for their scoring ability. He has slumped this year for whatever reason. Whether it's from trying to adjust to Carbonneau's defense-first system, or that his centerman isn't doing particulary great either, or his left winger thinks that he's a 40-goal man so he doesn't pass the puck anymore, or that the troubles his brother's is bothered with could be haing an adverse effect on him. Whatever the case, you just don't forget how to play hockey! I'm sure there's plenty of teams that would love to have Ryder on their roster. Atlanta took Recchi!
...and how is it that you seem to know this information?
Let's see...A 27 year old, fouth year player who was runner up for the Calder Trophy in his rookie year and followed that up with back-to-back 30-goal campaigns on a team who isn't known for their scoring ability. He has slumped this year for whatever reason. Whether it's from trying to adjust to Carbonneau's defense-first system, or that his centerman isn't doing particulary great either, or his left winger thinks that he's a 40-goal man so he doesn't pass the puck anymore, or that the troubles his brother's is bothered with could be haing an adverse effect on him. Whatever the case, you just don't forget how to play hockey! I'm sure there's plenty of teams that would love to have Ryder on their roster. Atlanta took Recchi!
You guys are pretty funny sometimes. Ryder hasn't done ANYTHING this year and people were consistently complaining about him. Now he's in the pressbox and people are complaining about that?
IMO he looks like a crackhead. Just looking at him and he doesn't look healthy and I think there is something going on off the ice. He's been terrible this year and Dandenault will do a better job then him on the 3rd line.
Ryder should call it a day with the Habs, I'd personally ask to be traded. Who knows what Ryder is able to accomplish in a different environment, centered by an all-star playmaker?
All I can hear from before is, we need youth brought up, we need youth, Lapierre, O'Byrne, and Kosty Jr should be called up, Ryder should be benched, Price should be the #1, ect...
People bash Carbo and Gainey about things that that at the beginning of the slump, and when stuff changes (The three kids are called up, Ryder is given plenty of chances and still hasn't scored in 12345789000 games, Price has played what, 6-7 straight games?) people are STILL bashing Carbo and Gainey? I don't get it.
Personally I feel Ryder and his brother are going through something, and that he isn't really focused on hockey. Carbo is trying to send a message by letting him watch a game, as some times this is all it takes. Some of the best players in this league have been benched and some come back strong, it's up to Micheal Ryder now as I do think he'll get another chance. I'm guessing he'll be on the first line against the Leafs Saturday.
Oh as a side note, does this mean a trades in the works? Did gainey get someone to bite on Ryder,*****, and a ***?
First men on the ice are Tomas Plekanec and Ryan O'byrne.
Jarvis, Muller, and Rollie are discussing what they plan to put the boys through.
Right now they're having a little discussion with Price about playing the puck.
-Sergei Kostitsyn wears the same fancy skates as Kovalev.
-Cristobal Huet has just hit the ice...I'll focus on his lateral movement and fill you in...
more to come soon...
try to get the lines out as soon as things get structured...
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Update
Koivu, Kovalev and Hamrlik, not on the ice...
No indication of lines yet...
Kid Kostitsyn looks good and he's put a few beauties in on Price which the boys were cheering about...
The guys have smiles on their faces...things look light...every goal is being celebrated...and yes, even Michael Ryder's scored a few...
oh, and cristobal looks ready to go.
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1:55pm
Ryder spent an extra ten minutes on the ice with Muller and Melanson after the morning skate. They were working on one-timer plays from behind the net into the slot. Ryder was presumably told at the end of the morning skate that he would not be playing tonight.
Sergei Kostitsyn makes his debut next to Higgins and Koivu. An opportunity for him to immediately show his worth...
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Kovalev, Koivu, Hamrlik and Markov did not elect to skate.
Higgins and Komisarek are the hardest working players, not only in games, but in practices as well.
Andrei Kostitsyn may be quite pumped about his brother suiting up tonight, he was ripping laser-snapshots in the morning skate. I think it's clear that next to Kovalev, Andrei has the best shot on the team--he should use it more often!
Judging by how light the mood was for the players on the ice at practice, it's clear the Habs are happy to get out of Montreal, even if it's just for a game.
Ya I know its from Eklunds site, but I found it interesting and there are no rumors within! lol
The logical move would have been to move Dandy or Streit back to defense with the arrival of Kosty Jr and the injury to Brisebois.
That's why i think that Ryder being scratched may be an indication that he's going to be traded very soon.
But then again maybe Carbo only wants to give a few games to Gorges so who knows .The way this team is run is so bizarre that you cannot really predict anything with certitude.
Dandy is not an option to move to defence unless there are a lot more injuries. Dandenault is a fine FORWARD, just like when he played on a line with Steve Yzerman as a rookie.
OTOH, I expected Streit to go back, but perhaps they feel that Gorges needs work, too, since he is only 23 years old after all. We talk about giving our kids some time to play, and I am glad that Gorges gets his chances from time to time.
With the Flyers' propensity to rough it up a bit, we could not afford to sit Bouillon.
That left Kosto or Ryder to scratch to allow Sergei at least one game to showcase his ability. I agree that it should NOT be Kosto AGAIN. We need some penalty killers in the lineup with Begin hurt.
So, Ryder is odd man out.
If Sergei isn't ready, Michael will be back in the lineup soon enough. OTOH, If Kosty Jr. makes an impression, Ryder becomes expendable to a degree. I hope the HABS would still insist on getting a decent return for him should they decide to trade him.
I love how people here are saying that if Kost plays on the top two lines Carbo is incompetent and how if he doesn't play on the top two lines he's incompetent. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Personally I see Ryder being benched as a prelude to a trade...or it could just be that Ryder wasn't giving any effort in practice. "You're playing like dirt, AND you're not working hard at practice. Why don't you try finding some passion from the watching pressbox?"
Ryder has no trade value, everyone hoping to move him don't get your hopes up. He is worth NOTHING to other teams.
The only way hes going to be worth to us is by playing beside Koivu, thats the only way he will come around. Ryder is not skilled enough to create space and score goals on his own.
This is just stupid Koivu has been subpar since around the time he was taken off that line, this makes no sense.
The funny thing though is that very few of our guys are scoring. I'm not entirely sure that this is all Ryder's fault. There have been a lot of changes in the last 15 months. Especially in our style of play. It is not exactly what you would call run and gun. Lots of skating but not much scoring.
If we trade this guy it will come back to bite us. I'm sure of it.
...and how is it that you seem to know this information?
Let's see...A 27 year old, fouth year player who was runner up for the Calder Trophy in his rookie year and followed that up with back-to-back 30-goal campaigns on a team who isn't known for their scoring ability. He has slumped this year for whatever reason. Whether it's from trying to adjust to Carbonneau's defense-first system, or that his centerman isn't doing particulary great either, or his left winger thinks that he's a 40-goal man so he doesn't pass the puck anymore, or that the troubles his brother's is bothered with could be haing an adverse effect on him. Whatever the case, you just don't forget how to play hockey! I'm sure there's plenty of teams that would love to have Ryder on their roster. Atlanta took Recchi!
I wish every Hab fan and Ryder basher would read your post.
When im talking about them im talking about a team's best players. Ours are Koivu,Kovalev, Higgins, PLeks. Ive never mentionned Ryder. Anyways on my team Ryder would play and Dandenault would sit. I dont care if he had plenty of chances, i would give him more cuz at least he could breakout. Live and die with your best players my friend and then you have no regrets. Every coaches in the league does it, why is it so hard to understand for Carbo?
Didn't you guys hear? Carbo's an admitted socialist and believes in the distribution of wealth!
Too bad for Ryder.. If he was a defenseman he'd probably still be in the lineup though (playing "rover"). It's unfortunate that he's not playing to his potential right now because that's really what he's being punished for here. I mean, we can watch Brisebois give the puck away 2,000 times a game lately but he still gets more minutes than he deserves because for Brisebois, 2,000 giveaways is good (ie: above his potential - 3,500 giveaways a game is what is really expected of him).
I'm hoping SK is half as good as everyone on here believes he is. And hopefully Carbo doesn't replace him with Dandy after two fruitless shifts.
Didn't you guys hear? Carbo's an admitted socialist and believes in the distribution of wealth!
Too bad for Ryder.. If he was a defenseman he'd probably still be in the lineup though (playing "rover"). It's unfortunate that he's not playing to his potential right now because that's really what he's being punished for here. I mean, we can watch Brisebois give the puck away 2,000 times a game lately but he still gets more minutes than he deserves because for Brisebois, 2,000 giveaways is good (ie: above his potential - 3,500 giveaways a game is what is really expected of him).
I'm hoping SK is half as good as everyone on here believes he is. And hopefully Carbo doesn't replace him with Dandy after two fruitless shifts.
.The way this team is run is so bizarre that you cannot really predict anything with certitude.
