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12-14-2007, 08:43 PM
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they played the trap

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Tretiak being pulled at the end of the 1st period (after letting in 2 goals) is not given enough weight in this thread of explanation.

he was widely considered the best goalie in the world at the time, and it was a medal-losing blunder by the Soviet coach. Vlad never forgave him.

somebody once said, "If Orr and/or Hull had been playing in '72, Henderson never would have had the chance to be a hero." (they would have tipped it in Canada's favor long before 34 seconds to go)

similarly, if "the best goalie in the world" hadn't been pulled for 2/3rd of the game there may never have been a miracle.

It was the eye of a perfect storm that a possessed and prepared coach threaded the needle and flew right into.

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12-17-2007, 09:56 AM
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Just wanted to mention that Herb Brooks is probably one of the best hockey coaches and hockey minds of all time. Brooks engineered this win and was the figurehead of American Hockey all the way through 2002. Brooks was amazing.

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12-17-2007, 10:04 AM
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Just wanted to mention that Herb Brooks is probably one of the best hockey coaches and hockey minds of all time. Brooks engineered this win and was the figurehead of American Hockey all the way through 2002. Brooks was amazing.
Excellent post.

IMHO, Brooks was the catalyst for the medal win for the States. He still doesn't get the credit he should.

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12-17-2007, 10:25 AM
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Just wanted to mention that Herb Brooks is probably one of the best hockey coaches and hockey minds of all time. Brooks engineered this win and was the figurehead of American Hockey all the way through 2002. Brooks was amazing.
He would have been an excellent coach in the Soviet Union.

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12-17-2007, 11:12 AM
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In a single game, anything can happen. In a 7 game series the Americans would have lost 4 games to 1.
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12-17-2007, 11:31 AM
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Yeah "one game" and all, but they managed to beat the Czech, Finns and tied Sweden too. So hardly a fluke.

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12-24-2007, 01:54 PM
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Question about the game:

Did the Soviets outplay the Americans badly, or was the play fairly even?

Or did the Americans carry it?

I believe the Soviets out-shot them by a fair amount, but they did not outplay them. They almost always out-shot teams. But I have seen the game many times and it's clear the U.S. outskated them. That U.S. team was one fast group of youngsters.

Putting aside for now all the positive things on the U.S. side of the equation, I see two factors against Russia that killed them:

--Overconfidence. They had not lost the gold medal since '60 and had won how many straight world championships. Just a few weeks earlier, they had beaten the U.S., 10-3, in a thoroughly convincing hammering. They figured this one was a layup.

--Coach Tikonov, for some unknown reason, takes his world-best goalie, Tretiak, out of the game after one period, perhaps as punishment for the goal by Johnson at the first-period buzzer that gave the U.S. a much-needed lift. But it wasn't Tretiak's fault, his D had fallen asleep and given the puck away. He puts in Vladamir Myshkin, who may have only given up 2 the rest of the way, but he was in no way Tretiak's equal, and he could have given up a couple of more, as he looked shaky.

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Question about the game:

Did the Soviets outplay the Americans badly, or was the play fairly even?

Or did the Americans carry it?
my take was that is was fairly even, but with a lead to protect in the 3rd, the yanks were able to draw deep and raise their game up further, while the Russians were unable to do that.

the Russians were skilled and talented teams, but the end game was not a strong part of their system.

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The Soviets had beaten the U.S., 10-3, in a thoroughly convincing hammering a few weeks prior.
Has anybody ever read an explanation as to why the US scheduled that game? Was Brooks playing mind games with his guys and trying to lull the Soviets to sleep?

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