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01-20-2004, 09:59 PM
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Are the Devils America's hockey team???

Tonight against Pittsburgh the Devils dressed nine American born players and eight Canadians, I'm sure it's happen before but I can't recall a NHL team having more yankees than canucks on it, does anybody?



USA: Scott Gomez, Jay Pandolfo, Brian Rafalski, Eric Rasmussen, Brian Gionta, Mike Rupp, David Hale, Paul Martin and Scott Clemmensen.

Canada: Sean Brown, Jeff Friesen, John Madden, Scott Neidermeyer, Turner Stevenson, Colin White, Grant Marshall and Martin Brodeur.

PS: It would have been double didgets americans if Langenbrunner wasn't on IR.

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Tonight against Pittsburgh the Devils dressed nine American born players and eight Canadians, I'm sure it's happen before but I can't recall a NHL team having more yankees than canucks on it, does anybody?



USA: Scott Gomez, Jay Pandolfo, Brian Rafalski, Eric Rasmussen, Brian Gionta, Mike Rupp, David Hale, Paul Martin and Scott Clemmensen.

Canada: Sean Brown, Jeff Friesen, John Madden, Scott Neidermeyer, Turner Stevenson, Colin White, Grant Marshall and Martin Brodeur.

PS: It would have been double didgets americans if Langenbrunner wasn't on IR.
Look at the quality of American players and then Canadian Players. Doesnt matter how many you have playing, I will take quality over quanity any day.

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New Jersey doesnt even care about the Devils.. they're not "Americas team"

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Look at the quality of American players and then Canadian Players. Doesnt matter how many you have playing, I will take quality over quanity any day.
I'm not trying to make this a USA vs Canada thread, I am genuinely intrested in knowing if this was maybe a landmark day in american hockey. I'm positive that we can rule out 1980 and before that for american hockey players were scarce ( I think they weren't even 10 percent). I'm sure it's happen before because if it hadn't I can believe that nobody noticed that it did tonight.

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New Jersey doesnt even care about the Devils.. they're not "Americas team"
Do you really think that's what I was trying to say??? Jesus Christ it's impossible to start an intelligent conversion in this forum anymore.

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Do you really think that's what I was trying to say??? Jesus Christ it's impossible to start an intelligent conversion in this forum anymore.
No need to get snippy. (OK, i guess i did). Just misunderstood what you meant.

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No need to get snippy. (OK, i guess i did). Just misunderstood what you meant.
That's cool. I realize now that the thread title can give the wrong impression.

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I think Dallas has had a lot of Americans at some point.. their two best players are Modano and Guerin, then you have Scott Young, and that's all I got off the top of my head

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The Stars also had Darian Hatcher last year, whom is American born.

The Flyers seem to have a lot of American -born players too. Roenick, Leclaire, Amonte, and Brashear off the top of my head.

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That's cool. I realize now that the thread title can give the wrong impression.
Yes, yes indeed it did. It looked like a fight waiting to happen til I actually read your post.

Nine does seem like a lot, I can't imagine that's been topped. This might be one to email in to ESPN and let them look it up.

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Columbus "looks" like America's team.

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their two best players are
Lehtinen is Finnish..

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The 1995 Devils Stanley Cup Team had more Americans than Canadians, which is the only time a Cup winner has done it, so it has happened before.

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The Stars also had Darian Hatcher last year, whom is American born.

The Flyers seem to have a lot of American -born players too. Roenick, Leclaire, Amonte, and Brashear off the top of my head.
Esche, Weinrich

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OT: Philippe Sauve is an American player... but lives in Montreal.

What's up with that?

He plays in America.
Grew up in America.
Born in America.

It may be because his daddy was a Canuck.

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The Devils arent even New Jerseys team, never mind Americas team.

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I don't think any hockey team can be consider America's team. They are all going to have a mix of Americans, Canadians, Europeans and whatever other nationality. I don't think the term is applicable here.

The World Juniors team is America's team or the Olympics but it doesn't work with NHL teams.

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I remember the 1985 Habs having at least 9 or 10 Americans.

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The 1995 Devils Stanley Cup Team had more Americans than Canadians, which is the only time a Cup winner has done it, so it has happened before.
1995 New Jersey Devils Championship Roster:

U.S.- Neal Broten, Bob Carpenter, Shawn Chambers, Tom Chorske, Danton Cole, Jim Dowd, Kevin Dean, Bill Guerin, Chris McAlpine, Mike Peluso, Brian Rolston, Chris Terreri

Canada - Martin Brodeur, Ken Daneyko, Bruce Driver, Claude Lemieux, John MacLean, Randy McKay, Scott Niedermayer, Stephane Richer, Scott Stevens

Russia - Sergei Brylin, Valeri Zelepukin

Czechoslovakia - Bobby Holik

Sweden - Tommy Albelin

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The 1936-37 Black Hawks near the end of the season iced a team composed entirely of Americans, because their owner Major Fredric McLaughlin was rather patriotic. This experiment did not go over very well, as the team was terrible and the idea was scrapped.

The 1937-38 Stanley Cup champion Black Hawks had an equal number of Canadians and Americans also. That 50% American lineup is the highest percentage of Americans on a Cup winner. As a side note this team managed to win the Cup despite a regular season record of 14-25-9 and being forced to use a minor league goaltender they found in a bar for Game 1 of the finals.

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I'm not trying to make this a USA vs Canada thread, I am genuinely intrested in knowing if this was maybe a landmark day in american hockey. I'm positive that we can rule out 1980 and before that for american hockey players were scarce
Nope. Chicago carried quite a few Americans for most of the 1930's, mainly out at the insistence of their owner, Frederic McLaughlin. His HOF bio says he tried to use an all-American lineup in 36-37, but the story that I recall was that he just put an all-US born starting 6 on the ice at one point. Checking hockeydb, the team did have 9 Americans on it that year, so that would have been enough to have a comfortable majority in a game lineup with the smaller rosters then.

Edit: Damnit, Doomsday Device, what'd you beat me by, 10 seconds?


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The Devils arent even New Jerseys team, never mind Americas team.
Did you join these boards just to rip into players and teams you don't like? If you don't have anything usefull to say just don't say it.

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Did you join these boards just to rip into players and teams you don't like? If you don't have anything usefull to say just don't say it.

Not to further this little war but it's true. The Flyers are Jersey's team more than the Devils are. Sorry.

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Not to further this little war but it's true. The Flyers are Jersey's team more than the Devils are. Sorry.
This is not what this thread is about, we've been there and done that, as I stated in this thread before I'm intrested in knowing if a NHL team has ever fielded more americans than canadians on the ice. Have either of you guys even bother to check if the flyers ever did???

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Predators have a few Americans too, David Legwand, Mark Eaton, Adam Hall, Andrew Hutchinson and soon to be Ryan Suter.

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